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proxieme
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posted September 16, 2005 08:09 AM           Edit/Delete Message
We had some new neighbors move-in yesterday.
Met 'em, talked to 'em, like 'em.

But my paranoid Mama-self is worried about their dog, a Pit-Bull/Greyhound Mix.
I wasn't worried until she lunged, growled, and went for Zoe's (our dog's) neck when I took her over to meet them (which resulted in Zoe sulking the rest of the day and then cowering and shaking when we tried the meeting again...which had the same result) and my neighbor said that their dog has a habit of killing squirrels and has killed a raccoon - a history of small animal aggression/violence scares me.

They lady said that their dog's been great with kids before (and she licked Meg's face when Meg went up to her), but I'm a little (read: "mind-bogglingly"), perhaps irrationally, concerned.

Does anyone out there have some soothing, "We/our neighbors had a pit-bull, and it was simply the most gentle, loving dog ever!" stories (or any of the other kind) to share to either ease my mind (or make me curl up into a fetal position)?

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Solane Star
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posted September 16, 2005 08:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solane Star     Edit/Delete Message
Hi proxieme,

I love my three dogs very very much and if there was every a time that one of my dogs would bite or hurt another I would think that it would come from my Belgium Shepherd and not my two Pitbulls. But dogs will be dogs and you just never know? Now that we have a ban on pit-bulls in Ontario, I can't even take that change anymore with my dogs and would not introduce any of my dogs to others children or animals. Just in case!!!

Better safe then sorry!!!

It would hurt like hell to be forced to put one of them down.


Love and care to you!!!

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teaselbaby
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posted September 16, 2005 08:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teaselbaby     Edit/Delete Message
I would be worried about the way she or any other breed reacted to my dog too ~ poor Zoe.
I don't have a pitbull myself, but I do remember a website dedicated to sharing what good dogs they can be; I'll see if I can find it.

Here you go:
http://www.badrap.org/rescue/myths.cfm
http://pitbulls.jentown.com/
http://www.furryfriendsfoundation.com/Truth03/Truth03.htm

Angela

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Solane Star
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posted September 16, 2005 09:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solane Star     Edit/Delete Message
teaselbaby,

Thanks so very much for these wonderful sites, your a dear!!!

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trillian
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posted September 16, 2005 09:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
Pit-bulls are not necessarily violent or aggressive dogs, from what I know of them. And I've known some real sweeties.

However, the casual mention of the dog liking to kill other small animals (prey) would concern me greatly. And by that I mean I would be terrified of that sort of aggressive behavior around my child or any other pet.

A friend has a dog who is very sweet most of the time, but has attacked both her and her husband, and also likes to kill cats, squirrels, birds, etc. Its aggressive behavior is unpredictable.

You know how much I love animals, which is why I choose not to eat them, but...

Prox, I would be terrified, too. What makes a dog attack? I don't know, but if it views something as prey and is so inclined, it will. You have a cat, a non-aggressive dog, and a child. Be careful.

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Devilfish
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posted September 16, 2005 11:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Devilfish     Edit/Delete Message
pitbulls are my thing,i have alotta knowledge of them ,bookwise and hands on.
our current pit was abused and we rescued her at a year old.We have four children.
i trust her COMPLETELY.
when it comes to this breed you have to seperate animal aggression from people aggression.
pits were breed to attack other pits,as well as other animals (bears bulls monkeys rats you name it)they were fearless and loyal.
alot of times these fighters were also family pets (different times)
they HAD to be trustworthy with humans
in order to fight them a referee, who was not familar with either dog,had to be able to stand in the ring and be ready to break locked holds, ect.they also would be in pain and have extensive injuries after fights which again would have to be handled by people.I DO NOT CONDONE FIGHTING.BUT THAT IS THEIR BREEDING HISTORY.the breed was intensly loyal to people with the potential to rip other dogs to shreads.they were a very common household breed and a favorite with children even being refered to as the childrens nursemaid. petey of the little rascals is a good example of how awesome the right pit can be with children.i know many have breed the animal killing instincts out of them but it IS normal to see a pit animal aggressive and still great with kids
that said there are ALOT of bad breeders out there who should not be breeding!
but that is true of any breed.
socialization is essential as well genetics
so yes i would be apprehensive, i would NOT let my dog be around it EVER and if you see signs of alpha behavior with people then i would not trust it around my kids or anyone else for that matter.

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Solane Star
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posted September 17, 2005 12:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solane Star     Edit/Delete Message

Devilfish!!!

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LibraSparkle
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posted September 17, 2005 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LibraSparkle     Edit/Delete Message
Prox, I don't think you're being unrealistically concerned.

The dog has a history of violence. She told you herself.

Maybe you should keep Meg and Zoe away? You'll do the right thing.

It doesn't have to be because she's a Pit. I grew up with Pits. We had to put one down because it was too aggressive. We didn't raise her from a pup, so we had no control over her aggressiveness. The rest of the dogs we had were raised from puppies, and were never any threat to anyone.

Pits can be wonderfully loving doggies... and very protective of women and children... **IF** they are raised right.

I used to ride my dad's dog (Pit/Wolf) around like a horse. He was my best buddy for a long, long time. (Although, now that I think about it... he used to get out sometimes and catch cats, leaving them on our doorstep as an offering. )

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proxieme
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posted September 17, 2005 03:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for all your replies

I've got a lot of food for thought here.
Re: Keeping Zoe, Meg, Harry away:
I'm thinking about how to do that, though.
We're in Post Housing - our houses are 15, maybe 20 feet apart, less so in the back.
My main nightmare scenarios:

  • Harry will get out (he's not usually allowed to - his previous owners declawed him - but he sure tries) while they're outside with their dog (because, hey, dogs need to go); their dog breaks free and gets Harry.
  • We both happen to go outside with our dogs at the same time, theirs is unusually perterbed, gets free.
  • Their dog dashes out the door while I'm outside with Meg and/or Zoe - natural aggression w/ the latter, unexplained with the former. I mean, I can't just stay in my house and I don't want to tell Meg that she can't run around the yard like a crazy monkey (under my supervision, of course).

I guess it's just a situation that'll have to be monitored...

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