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CancerianMoon
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From: Sydney, Australia. Cancer Sun.....Gemini Moon.....Aqua Rising
Registered: Aug 2003

posted October 18, 2005 08:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CancerianMoon     Edit/Delete Message
WAS JUST WONDERING ABOUT KNOWFLAKES CULTURAL AND RELIGIOUS BACKGROUNDS AND HOW YOU FEEL THEY AFFECTED YOU AND POSSIBLY HOW AND IF IT INFLUENCED YOUR INTRODUCTION TO ASTROLOGY.
I will start and say i was never christaned or baptised..never taught about god..my mum thought it was best for us to decide for ourselves..always though had this feeling that if you did good it would return on you and if you did bad you would receive it back with interest..
My mum is from the uk and my dad is an aussie..they both see me as a little wacko in my astrologial views.
Astrology rang true for me very early when i was about 10 or so and could not read enough about it..for me it provided a base that ive heard some get from religion..a base that gave some faith that there was some type of higher power..i never really looked in depth to a real chart till i was about 28 and got a kit that showed you how to draw up a chart..then my love for it grew even more...the net has been the biggest love for me with astro.com and of course lindaland
Anyone else care to share?

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fayte.m
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From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat. fayte1954@hotmail.com
Registered: Mar 2005

posted October 18, 2005 09:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
During the 1960s-70s...the common thing after "Hi!...Hello!"...was.."What sign are you?"...or "what's your sign?"
Fortunately my Atheist father and my rabid Christian mother had divorced by that time.
My atheist father did not care if I got into astrology...he was more comfortable with that rather than the hellfire and brimstone rants from my rabid christian mother.
It has been rather intesting how the signs do work...I can usually guess a person's sign unless they are on the cusps.
The hardest ones for me to spot are cuspish ones and Taurus...Libra...and fellow Scorpios...especial again cuspish ones or later November ones.
It is spooky cool..how the Virgos in my life to date have been of two types. But still distinctly Virgos.
The more emotional and a bit paranoid types who are/have been... in my world, and all married..some many times..party too much/drinking/and engaging in other dangerous recreational activities involving vehicles and hotair ballooning or ultralites, bungie jumping. and so forth....born on:
August 25..two people
August 26..One
August 27..Five
Then the ones who are intellectual and hermits in many ways. And celebate or unmarried. Love to travel...but do not engage in dangerous activities involving vehicles or aircraft etcetera.
September 4..one
September 5..two
September 8..one
September 9..one
Of course these are just my examples and experiences. But Astrology and a person's sign does work.

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The Mutable Night Force
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From: England
Registered: Dec 2004

posted October 18, 2005 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Mutable Night Force     Edit/Delete Message
Hey there.......

My family ranges from all over England. Which ok, is probably about the size of three/four states in America, so not that far!

Most of my roots are Nottinghamshire. Up North.... the other parts a sort of mixture of the Jersey Islands, Somerset, London/Cockney roots.... and some other stuff... Man, I'm fague...

Religion- I'm a pretty much firm agnostic. Not entirely sure about the whole God thing... though I'm definately not into organised religion. If I was anything, then the closest to my background is Christianity but that just nicked too much stuff from other religions to hold any credibility with me. Judaism looks cool. I mean, apart from the no-pork thing.

I like to think of Astrology as my religion. It's the only thing that's proved to be correct and evident for me so far.

Oh and Paganism always seemed sort of nice.

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fayte.m
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posted October 18, 2005 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
I did not talk here about how I was influenced except for in relation to astrology because I have ranted on quite a bit on other threads about the other things...grrrrrrrr.

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juniperb
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From: Blue Star Kachina
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posted October 18, 2005 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
The Religion of Love

My heart has become capable of every form: it is a pasture for gazelles and a convent for Christians,
and a temple for idols and the pilgrims Ka‘ba,
and the tables of the Torah, and the book of the Koran.
I follow the religion of Love: whatever way Love’s camels take, that is my religion and faith..


Ibn Arabi

Ibn Arabi has also guided my passion for Trancending the Exoteric Astrology to the higher State of Esoteric astrology.


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If having a soul means being able to feel love and loyalty and gratitude, then animals are better off than a lot of humans. ~James Herriot

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pixelpixie
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From: Ontario Canada
Registered: Jun 2005

posted October 18, 2005 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
I am a bit-fitter.
I take bits that fit, and don't call it anything, but my way, the way I vibe to.
I have no issues anymore with anyone elses' way.. if it works for you more power to you.
It all pretty much amounts to the same thing.. faith, love, something undefinable.. and I will define it as I do, and you will define it as you do... and no matter what, we can understand the common denominators.
I chose Astrology because I always seemed to vibrate to it. The mnore I got into it, the more I wanted to. Plus, I have an unusual name, and I have always been an 'artist', so I guess it was pretty natural that I'd be naturally drawn to something somewhat accepted yet controvercial. The sheer volume of knowledge I am still acquiring keesps mne interested.
Can't really sum up journeys, but they have evolved, as have I.

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Gemini Nymph
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posted October 20, 2005 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini Nymph     Edit/Delete Message
Hmm, well....

I was raised in a home that valued academics. We weren't religious or spiritual at all.

I was always intellectually curious and I began having psychic/mystical expeirences at a young age that I had no background to help me understand. I tended to overrationalize things.

My family moved around a lot, and I was always the "weird" kid wherever we were. I had very few friends and I was never very close to my family. I always felt very isolated socially growing up. I always had a hard time conforming and fitting in. I questioned things that didn't make sense to me, and never simpyl accpeted something just because that's how things were.

I had to deal with a lot of conflicts socially. I learned to rely on two things: my intellect and my intuition. I don't feel like I was really "raised" by my own family and I don't feel I really "grew up" in the culture around me. I feel very "apart" and disconnected. I live in a world, but I don't feel that it's my home.

This has allowed me to have a different prespective on many things. I don't necessarily think I am right or that I know more truth than another person, but I do think my prespective is valid and may bear witness to some things that people more accepted into society can't see. Likewise those people witness things that to me are very foreign.

I converted to Catholicism when I was 24, becuase intellectually and intutively it rang true for me. Socially, no, it didn't and doesn't - I know there's many problems within the Church socially, but since I'm so disconnected socially anyhow, that doesn't impede me for recognizing what is true and good about the Chruch on an intellectual and intuitive level.

Likewise, astrology, although poo-pooed in popular culture and by most Christians, I can intellectually and intuitively recognize what is good and true in it as well. I got into astrology seriously after i converted to Catholicsm, although I always found the signs fascinating. Originally I was far more curious than convinced, but since I don't let my own skeptism deny my curiousity, I investigated astrology until I felt on a intellectual level that astrolgoy did have integrity as a science.

Catholicism helped put my life experiences into a spiritual context that gives these experiences more meaning and a transcedent value. Astrology helps me better evaluate and discern these expeirences and how they effect my personal development. Catholicism to me is my religion in the truest sense of the word. For me, astology is a science, and thus a tool for exploring, discovering and understanding. I see no cnflict between the two, aand in my own life the two do intertwine.

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Moon666Child
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posted October 20, 2005 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moon666Child     Edit/Delete Message
I am from India. I am a Hindhu. That pretty much sums it up!

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TheEvolution
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From: Mumbai, India
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posted October 21, 2005 11:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TheEvolution     Edit/Delete Message
i'm from india, i'm a jain. but then i'm getting evolved...so don't call me a hindu, don't call me a jain!

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CancerianMoon
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From: Sydney, Australia. Cancer Sun.....Gemini Moon.....Aqua Rising
Registered: Aug 2003

posted October 22, 2005 12:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CancerianMoon     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks you guys for your replies
It just interests me so...the background of people..i think the more we know the more we realize we are all so connected...no matter what religious or cultural background we have..we have all come together in astrology ....HOW WONDERFUL!
Thanks Linda!

juniperb..id so love to hear more about Ibn Arabi..would you indulge me ??

PP..thats sounds more like me too!!

Thanks Gemini Nymph! Your story make sense to me!..Gem moon..gotta intellectualize everything!

TheEvolution whats a jain?

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nove731
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From: Antioch, Tennessee, USA
Registered: Jun 2005

posted October 24, 2005 10:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nove731     Edit/Delete Message
I'm with Pixie. I'm a "bit-fitter". I take different things from different religions and make them my own beliefs. Astrology happens to be part of it, and so does Karma. Not too sure about most everything else, though. I don't necessarily believe in God, but I don't NOT believe in him either. I guess I'm just ambivilent. I've never been given a reason to believe, but I've never been given a reason not to either.

Eh, My family is Catholic. That seems to be pretty much the worst religion for me aside from Islam. I just can't relate to it. It doesn't make sense to me. I mean, I can read about it and it makes SENSE, I just don't believe that what it says could have actually happened.

I'm Swabian, Irish, Scottish, Cherokee, and Danish.

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TheEvolution
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From: Mumbai, India
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posted October 24, 2005 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TheEvolution     Edit/Delete Message
Jainism, religion of India concentrated largely in Gujarât and Râjasthân, in parts of Mumbai (formerly Bombay), and in the state of Karnâtaka (Mysore), as well as in the larger cities of the Indian peninsula. The Jains totaled about 3.7 million as the 1990s began, but they exert an influence in the predominantly Hindu community far out of proportion to their numbers; they are mainly traders, and their wealth and authority have made their comparatively small sect one of the most important of living Indian religions.

"Jainism," Microsoft® Encarta® Encyclopedia 2000. © 1993-1999 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

Religion of India established in the 6th century BC by Vardhamana, who was called Mahavira. Jainism's core belief is ahimsa, or noninjury to all living things.

It was founded as a reaction against the Vedic religion, which required animal sacrifices. Jainism has no belief in a creator god, though there are a number of lesser deities for various aspects of life. Jains believe their religion is eternal and hold that it was revealed in stages by a number of Conquerors, of whom Mahavira was the 24th. Living as an ascetic, Mahavira preached the need for rigorous penance and self-denial as the means of perfecting human nature, escaping the cycle of rebirth, and attaining moksha, or liberation. Jains view karma as an invisible material substance that interferes with liberation and can only be dissolved through asceticism. By the end of the 1st century AD the Jains had split into two sects, each of which later developed its own canon of sacred writings: the Digambaras, who held that an adherent should own nothing, not even clothes, and that women must be reborn as men before they can attain moksha; and the more moderate Svetambaras. In keeping with their principle of reverence for life, Jains are known for their charitable works, including building shelters for animals. Jainism preaches universal tolerance and does not seek to make converts.

britannica.

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ariestiger
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From: UK
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posted October 25, 2005 04:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariestiger     Edit/Delete Message
My mother was German Lutheran, and my father, Welsh, but Anglican Christian (if that makes sense). Both of them saw hypocrisy in the Church so didn't have me baptized - but then went crazy when I started saying I didn't believe in God when I learned about Vikings (and their polytheistic religion, which seemed more fun) at school when I was 7 - my mother slapped my face, and my father started saying grace at mealtimes etc...that lasted all of 5 seconds...what a couple of idiots.

Anyway, I don't have any religious beliefs, nor am I particularly spiritual (I deliberately won't address that side of myself, as I could be subject to delusions, or frighten myself, and I prefer to feel grounded and to exist in peace), nor would I be likely to get in astrology in any really heavy way, as I don't think I take it seriously enough...although it is amazing how certain events occur round certain times, or how people's personality traits can be accurately assessed according to sign.

I first started getting into astrology when I was 14...it made more sense to me than anything I have come across before, or since. What is good about it is that it lends itself to so much interpretation, and the debate usually tends to be of a relaively peaceful nature.

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