posted March 07, 2006 08:24 PM         

would this be overly dramatic?? (march 7th entry) www.xanga.com/iloverice624

what exactly do you consider overly dramatic versus under-dramatic??

i really would like some other people's opinion of this (particularly those who are older and more experienced) because I'm getting mixed answers.

when have you been overly dramatic and how did you realize it? when do you wish you had reacted more?

posted March 09, 2006 05:17 PM         

I read your website the other day when you posted this thread. I think your reaction is of sorts, normal for young people around your age. For a good majority of teenagers high school is a big deal, so is making an impression on peers, and caring a lot about what people think about you. High school is about the last time in your life when you see your friends consistently every single day. After that, the little annoying stuff grows less and less irritating because you don't see them as much anymore.

posted March 13, 2006 12:57 PM         

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when have you been overly dramatic and how did you realize it?

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After I calmed down and realized I hadn't put things into proper perspective

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when do you wish you had reacted more?

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when uncertainty caused me to hesitate

posted March 13, 2006 06:58 PM         

But, I get it,
and I like people like you
a lot more than I like "most people",
who are just extroverted idiots, anyway; -
yeah, my misanthropy is showing; sue me.
Whats the worst that could happen? -
My words make them self-conscious for once in their life?
Make them feel crappy for being shallow?
God forbid, it might deepen them.

Maybe I should tell it to my pillow?

peace, love, empathy, & indignation,
Steve

ps. God, you're sexy!

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"[James Dean was great
because he had Marlon Brando in one hand,
saying 'F#ck You!',
and Montgomery Clift in the other,
saying 'Help Me!']."

- Dennis Hopper

posted March 13, 2006 09:02 PM         

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Make them feel crappy for being shallow?
God forbid, it might deepen them.

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wow

why so much indignation there, Mr Heart Shaped Cross? If you don't mind my asking.

posted March 13, 2006 09:19 PM         

good point, TINK

"why so much indignation there, Mr Heart Shaped Cross? If you don't mind my asking."

just an emotional day, TINK,
and I could relate to what Moonpixie wrote..
I'm very sensitive to judgment and
nothing infuriates me more than
people's glib and insensitive reactions to emotional states

sorry if I let anger get the better of me,
but, whatever, its a part of me,
and, since i express my good feelings so often,
people should know there's another side to me.

Urgh!,

posted March 13, 2006 09:39 PM         

I notice a certain touchiness to the dreaded judgment monster here at LL. Forgive me, but sometimes it seems to border on paranoia. Maybe because a site like this tends to attract people a bit different from the norm?

Don't be sorry. Lord knows we all have emotional days and multiple faces.

"urgh" indeed

posted March 13, 2006 11:29 PM         

The blog entry was a teenage girl's angst-ridden plea for understanding from an occassionally cold and indifferent world.

The people I referred to in my post are the same she referred to in her blog entry, and the same who led her to wonder if she was "overly dramatic", -
as if supposedly objective judgements should even apply to emotions,
which are utterly subjective experiences;
as if we could just decide what is "appropriate" to feel,
and choose (against our natures) to feel THAT.

I already know this is going to sound absurd,
but I'm going to try to put it into words anyway...

To question the validity of emotions,
is to invalidate them.
And to invalidate anything is to deny it.
Literally, it is to deny its essence, if not its existence;
because the essence of anything is its validity;
that is, it is true and valid merely by virtue of existing.
Emotions are. They exist.
And they exist as they are;
they are what they are.
Can we honestly pressume to decide their validity?

Yes, the site tends to attract people who have been dealt with harshly,
or feel they have been dealt with harshly,
by others.

Moon Pixie and I both have 1st house moons,
and 1st house contacts to Pluto
(hers is in the 1st,
mine squares my asc)...
So, we are both very sensitive to the harsher aspects of our environments.

Now, to my way of thinking,
it makes no sense to ask if this sensitivity
is a form of awareness or a form of paranoia.
It is nothing more or less than our experience of the world.

In a given situation,
a less sensitive person may have nothing to fear,
while a sensitive person would have much to be cautious of.
It is not that the latter is "paranoid",
but, he/she is confronted with difficulties which the former is not.

Again,
While, to the former, judgment may be one of life's little speedbumps
(something vaguely annoying that pops up every few hundred miles or so), -
to the latter,
judgement is something which assaults them, and on a daily, even hourly basis.

Having to confront misunderstanding,
and having to explain themselves,
and justify their existences,
or the idiosyncracies which make them unique
(and, at the same time, cannot but alienate others),
is a constant forge.

Because they are sensitive to the thinnest partitions, -
which people erect in order to separate themselves, -
they cannot help but feel shut out in the cold;
as if a look, cut short,
were a door slammed in one's face.

Fortunately the effect of this sensitivity is to spur a person on to make evolutionary refinements in themselves and their environments.

"The truly creative mind in any field is no more than this:

"A human creature born abnormally, inhumanly sensitive.

"To him... a touch is a blow,
a sound is a noise,
a misfortune is a tragedy,
a joy is an ecstasy,
a friend is a lover,
a lover is a god,
and failure is death."

- Pearl S. Buck

"Don't be sorry. Lord knows we all have emotional days and multiple faces."

Thank you. You're very kind.

~hsc

posted March 14, 2006 11:49 PM         

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as if supposedly objective judgements should even apply to emotions,
which are utterly subjective experiences;
as if we could just decide what is "appropriate" to feel,
and choose (against our natures) to feel THAT.

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I would respectfully disagree. "Our natures", as you say, are rarely true. For the vast majority, it's conditioning and habit and so forth. The true nature lies above impulsive emotion. I've personally found that an honest examination of one's emotions will lead to that conclusion. Of course, that's just me.

You mentioned the inherent dishonesty of questioning the validity of emotions. I agree. Emotions are neither valid nor invalid. The honest examination I mentioned concerns the source of the emotion. The reason why.

We're on a spiritual site, so permit me a quick peak into that aspect of the issue? The arbitrary, knee-jerk emotions most of us find ourselves seduced by, are the first to go in any spiritual initiation or quest. Emotionalism and erratic thoughts are inspected and controlled. Coldness, of course, is not the desired outcome. Regulating the inner life of emotions leads to feelings on a more pure level - the emotion of the Higher Self rather than the lower. The true nature, so to speak.

Thank you for the Pearl S. Buck quotation. A classically Romantic notion! I spent several years entranced by the Romantics. I think I still have my John Keats on His Death Bed print lying around somewhere. After many near-miss adventures, I found myself on the other side of it with one thought ... emotion, like the intellect oddly enough, makes a worthy servant, but a terrible master.

As for the astrology stuff, I'm no expert in that field. I can only tell you I have Pluto on the ascendent and 5 planets in Scorpio. So yes, that particular master's whip has left a few scars on my back.

very nice to meet you btw

tink

posted March 15, 2006 01:22 AM         

I agree with what you are saying.
And I didnt mean to imply that emotions,
or what caused them,
could not be put into perspective,
or diffused under the light of awareness.
Only, that it is absurd to suggest
that one should or could have felt differently in a given situation.

To see an emotion for what it is,
is to understand it.
But to see it for what it isn't,
is to judge it.
Thats what I meant.

"I spent several years entranced by the Romantics... After many near-miss adventures, I found myself on the other side of it with one thought ... emotion, like the intellect oddly enough, makes a worthy servant, but a terrible master."

You express yourself eloquently (not just here, but in the main). I was never much for the Romantics, except for Shelley. It could be my weak Neptune. Instead, I went ga-ga for the Stoic philosophers, the Persian poets, and the Russian novelists, among others.

"I have Pluto on the ascendent and 5 planets in Scorpio."

Wow! Can I peep your chart?

"very nice to meet you btw"

Strange, we havent been formally introduced.
The pleasure is all mine.