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Thorshammer
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posted March 26, 2006 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thorshammer     Edit/Delete Message
I was posting this for MYSPACE.COM and I thought to ramble here and see what you have to say..if there is a swear ommission...its cause I couldnt find it sorry.

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Hells there are 64 million people on here...Now if we can’t do this...no one can.

This is a long piece, but if you really care, you will read it. Because it matters. It's not some "survey or send to 10 people, though you will want to send this to everybody...you really will if your’re on my list, because my friends here are only intelligent, strong and undefeated people. No matter where you are in the world, if you are on my list I know you are a fighter and will read this piece.

NOW...I am the first to say...I don’t get the whole Homosexual/Lesbian thing. I love the opposite gender...love it! I have my opinions (that will be in a book in the future...something to make you all WONDER, something honest) about it, but there are many people I know that are Gay and even though I might think differently, I wouldn’t let anyone beat them or hurt them, they’re human, they are my brothers and sisters no matter what they do and I a brother to them even though what I may think. THIS is what makes us unique, that we are a compassionate race, even when we are a stupid one at times.

Just a minute ago, I was doing some research on this Pitt Bull thing. It really bothered me when I first got that blog from my friend A HREF='http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=37139514'>Kristin</a>
on Pitt bulls, I started to do some more research and my lovely most compassionate friend <A HREF='http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=48519404'>Suzanne</a>
(Love you lady, you are so pure!!) Sent me a link called http://www.badrap.org/rescue/CA_BSL_Alert.cfm stated the more recent update on that law being passed to destroy Pitts.

BUT as I was reading that Q&A and I came across a name, it was DIANE WHIPPLE...well I wanted to know who she was, and I use to live on Whipple street in Chicago at one time...just similarities...anyhow I put her name in the search and came up with this terrible site.

Now Dianne Whipple was mauled and killed by two dogs while trying to get into her apartment. She was a Lacrosse Coach in Morago Cal, a former head Coach at UC-San Diego, a two-time first team All-American at Penn St. and NCAA National player of the year in 1990...oh yeah she as a lesbian.

Does it matter...of course not...the lesbian part I mean. She was a girl that loved other girls, but she was a human being, a superb athlete, a great coach to others, she was a leader! One day while going to her apartment the neighbor’s dogs attacked her.

NOW WOULD GOD WANT THIS WOMAN TO BE KILLED BY TWO OF HIS CREATIONS BECAUSE SHE AS GAY? DOES ANYONE BELIEVE THAT?

WELL THESE IDIOTS DO....
http://www.godhatesfags.com/main/whipplememorial.html

The WESTBORO BAPTIST CHURCH thinks it’s justified to print a memorial stating that GOD HATES FAGS (well yes he might hate cigarettes...I don’t know???)

This woman died, she was killed by dogs...GOD did not send those animals to punish her because she was gay...why do people think like this????

I find it fascinating that there is a whole swarm of knuckleheads out there that think like that...I think of the Pharisee’s that wanted to get close to Jesus, but they couldn’t because he was surrounded by loads of people. If they grabbed the MAN, then the people would riot and the Roman would kill them all...so they need to find another way to grab him...via the 30 silver pieces and the GARDEN, BUT what I am saying is...all those people that were around Jesus...those people who would have rioted to stop anyone from taking him...are they, or were there as vile as this Westboro Baptist Church? Did they speak that way about people and put them down, did they make a Memorial for someone that was gay and say "GOD HATES FAGS!"..................

I doubt it, since most of the people that followed him were thieves, prostitutes, beggars, the poor, the meek, the diseased, lame and probably...yes Homosexuals and Lesbians. So I doubt it they were as EVIL as this WESTBORO BAPTIST CHURCH. Hell Lucifer isn’t that bad, Lucifer knows the truth..."GOD LOVES EVERYONE"

I find it funny...so damn funny that this Memorial for Diane says:

"Perpetual Gospel Memorial to Diane Whipple

Diane Whipple, a filthy dyke, died in her sins on Jan. 26, 2001, as a result of being mauled by two dogs. God used literal dogs to kill a figurative dog - sodomites being likened unto dogs for beast-filthiness (Deut. 23:17, Mat. 7:6, Phil. 3:2, 2 Pet. 2:7,8,12,22; Rev. 22:15). Fags & dykes = dogs & sows."


SO, they are saying that GOD used two dogs to kill this woman, because she loved other women...

THIS IS WHY CHURCHES ARE FULL OF CRAP AT TIMESAND KNOW NOTHING ABOUT INDIVIDUALITY WITH GOD...WHY WOULD YOU SAY GOD DID IT!!!!

Are they saying that Dogs are evil, so they mauled her because she was EVIL, that "GOD USED LITERAL DOGS TO KILL A FIGURATIVE DOG”???? So dogs are evil and GOD is SPELLED BACKWARDS how..."doG".... well, as my gay friend Wayne would say: HELLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

So dogs are evil and SHE was EVIL...so GOD used TWO EVIL things that HE made to KILL another EVIL thing? Is that what they are saying...

Well I got a message for them from GOD (yes he is sitting right here with me, at the table...and he told me to spell check this when I am done...cause he knows when I get ****** , I make mistakes)

GOD says "I CREATED ALL LIVING THINGS WITH MY BREATHE AND ALL LIVING THINGS SHALL LIVE TOGETHER IN HARMONY AS I WANTED IT TO BE! I MADE YOU MORONS...MY CHILDREN SO THAT YOU COULD BE LIKE ME ONE DAY AND ONE DAY YOU SHALL BE! I DONT NEED TO USE MY FOUR-LEGGED ONES TO KILL MY TWO LEGGED ONES...YOU TWO LEGGED ONES DO THAT ALL BY YOURSELF. DONT BLAME THE DOGS FOR YOUR DEEDS!

I AM GOD, I AM GOOD AND SO ARE YOU! THOSE DOGS AREN'T TO BLAME ONLY TWO-LEGGEDS.

GOD HAS SPOKEN...DON'T USE MY NAME FOR YOUR DOINGS!!!


Isn't GOD so cool? Ya know, with all that damn fuss by the WESTBORO BAPTIST CHURCH about Diane Whipple being evil and sorts because she slept with another woman (she didn't molest a child, she didn’t kill anyone...she loved another!!!) I find it funny that if they did a little more research, they would have found out that the people who had the two dogs...the ones that are suppose to be EVIL, the ones that were used by GOD to kill another DOG (DIANE WHIPPLE, said by the church) were actually being watched by this couple. YEAH IT WASNT EVEN THEIR DOGS!!!

Marjorie Knoller.... a Attorney at that, and her husband RObert Noel were watching the two dogs, two Presa Canarios for a 38-year old INMATE they had recently adopted...how do you adopt a inmate? Maybe because he was a WHITE SUPREMACIST you can adopt those dudes...maybe...

They adopted this guy stating, "Noel called Schneider "a man of more character and integrity than most of the people you're going to find in the California Department of Corrections administration." Noel has defended several inmates and guards in lawsuits against the Corrections Department. One of the crimes Schneider's in the pokey for is attempted murder -- of his lawyer. (Not Noel -- or, presumably, "Dad.") "

CMON.... HELLLLOOOOOOOOOOOO.

They adopted this guy that is a total racist, he’s in prison for life, this other dude that owned the dog is there too...Dale Bretches...and they are in one of the most evil and intense prisons in California, Pelican Bay State Prison. Correction, they couple defended Dale too and many others in the prison system...I smell cover up here people.

So...who is evil...lol...who is really evil...this GIRL is not, GOD is not, the DOGS are not, perhaps the PEOPLE who owned the DOGS...could that be? Neighbors stated they were terrified by the dogs and wished they weren't there. I found this in an article about the attack:

It was revealed in the ensuing days that Knoller, 45, and Noel, 59, who are lawyers, got the dogs from clients of theirs, a pair of cellmates at Pelican Bay, California's toughest prison, named Paul John "Cornfed" Schneider and Dale Bretches, members of the racist Aryan Brotherhood prison gang who are both serving life sentences without possibility of parole. Prison officials alleged that Bane and Hera had been part of a scheme by the prisoners to raise vicious dogs and sell them to the Mexican Mafia, another prison gang, for use as fighters and meth lab guards. Neighbors began coming forward saying that they'd been terrified of the aggressive animals, and wishing they'd reported them to authorities. Bane was put to death. Hera is being held as evidence. She will likely be euthanized too.
http://archive.salon.com/news/feature/2001/05/10/dogs/print.html

SOUNDS LIKE PEOPLE MORE THAN DOGS...also:


Documents unsealed by the court in late March in response to a legal challenge by news organizations showed that authorities suspected that the dogs had been sexually abused. Investigation revealed no evidence of this, but there was talk of sexually explicit photos of Knoller and Noel, maybe involving the dogs, and sexually explicit communication between the couple and Schneider. Transcripts from the grand jury that handed down the indictments have been sealed by Judge Moscone pending a hearing. Media outlets and prosecutors are hoping to have them released, which would bring any such evidence to light.

So what’s going on...WESTBORO BAPTIST CHURCH has stated that Diane Whipple was killed by DOGS because she was a DOG…and That GOD commanded it.... well.

YOU figure it out...the neighbors were scared to death of the dogs, the dog (male) had bit Diane before, she was scared the death of him, therefore he smelled fear, the lawyer and her lawyer husband took the dogs into their house and adopted a known White Supremacist who is said to have been training dogs for violent fights for Mexican gangs, the dogs might have been through sexual abuse, and we just have all this racism mixed in.

So Westboro Baptist church is really saying GOD IS EVIL, and USED EVIL DOGS TO KILL A EVIL GIRL WHO WAS GAY, OR THAT GOD IS GOOD AND LOVING, THEREFORE HE HAD THIS LOVELY WOMAN KILLED BECAUSE SHE WAS EVIL AND SINCE GOD IS GOOD AND LOVING HE COULDNT KILL HER OR ANY OTHER GAY PERSON SO HE HAS COMMISSIONED EVIL DOGS TRAINED BY EVIL PEOPLE TO KILL OTHER DOGS, TO ALSO KILL GAY PEOPLE TOO....

That’s what they are saying right?

I think we should ask them...really we should ask them, there are 64 million of us...and I know 64 million won't ask them, but what about a million...what say thee? One million letters sent to the WESTBORO BAPTIST CHURCH, ONE MILLION HUMAN BEINGS WITH PASSION WHO LOVE ONE ANOTHER, THOUGH WE HAVE OUR FLAWS, and ONE MILLION FIGHTING SOLDIERS...LETS DO THIS.

Lets do this.... today is Sunday. Tonight write a letter and send it to the church that says GOD HATES FAGGOTS...write them and show them we don’t agree with this crap.

I will and I won’t stop!!!

You can write an email here: http://www.godhatesfags.com/main/contact.html

Read this page: http://www.godhatesfags.com/main/aboutwbc.html

Here is an address:

3701 W. 12th Street in Topeka, KS

Or you can do more good, by sending a letter...even if it doesn’t get read...it will get out through the post office.... with luck, it could get on the news... I say WE show the country that MySpace is so much more than what the news pertains it to be. We can make a difference in this...For Diane Whipple; we can bring Justice to her name.

Love and Light,

Kelly

IN AMERICA, WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAY WHAT WE WANT. IT’S CALLED THE FIRST AMENDMENT:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

THIS AMENDMENT MAKES US ONE OF THE GREATEST COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD, BUT TO USE IT TO DESTROY ANOTHER WILL ALSO DESTROY US.


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Thorshammer
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posted March 27, 2006 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thorshammer     Edit/Delete Message
I cant believe that none of you have anything to say about this...

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Rainbow~
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posted March 27, 2006 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rainbow~     Edit/Delete Message
Kelly.....I only just saw this....but I will get on the ball as soon as possible....

I understand your outrage!!!!!!!!

There is so much "sick thinking" going on out there these days, that it's
scary... .......but these self-righteous characters DO exist, and I guess
those of us who do have a handle on what life is all about i.e., love, peace,
tolerance etc., can TRY and let them know....but I doubt it will do much good,
because narrow minds like that are usually pretty set...and hard to open....

But we can try...

Bless you....and...

....love to you, friend...

Rainbow

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lalalinda
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posted March 27, 2006 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message
I do so feel your soul and compassion

I think the whole "you deserve this because you're gay" attitude is garbage and I won't even stoop to that level to try and understand it.

God knows that none of us are perfect or without fault. If we're honest we'll try and improve ourselves before we start making judgements on others.

Being Gay is an alternative lifestyle with plenty of bias and prejidices attached to it. It can not be an easy life to "just choose" for many it takes lots of courage to be who they are. Their obsticles are many.

There are more suicides by young Gay men who just can't fit or come to terms with who they are.

I want to grab them and hold them just for that minute it takes to shake some sense into them and remind them of just how precious and loved they are and how unimportant their lifestyle is in the grand scheme of things.
Mostly to remind them to be proud of the MAN and quit focusing on the lifestyle.

That will forever be a problem untill we learn to not judge.

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pixelpixie
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posted March 27, 2006 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
I didn't see it, sorry...
But also, today is all about sadness for me.. not FOR ME.. but for others and the world etc.. it is not a selfish sadness, I am not even sad, i feel awake, and it makes me want to sleep.. so I don't want to focus on such negativity.
I absolutely agree that no one should label anyone in a negative way, and no one should justify a horrible dog attack, and everyone should have the right to love whom they want. I mean, you usually don't have a choice in the matter.. the nature of love.

I had a dream that I was a lesbian today.
I also knew who was emailing me and why, I am very open it seems to whatever is going on in the world, including the negativity, so I have to focus on les of it so I don't just shut down.

Thanks for bringing it to our attention, Thor

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Rainbow~
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posted March 27, 2006 06:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rainbow~     Edit/Delete Message
Kelly.....I sent my letter to the "God Hates Fags" people....

I don't know if it will do much good, but at least I'm trying....

Thought you might want to see it...

Here it is..

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I am so sorry for you self-righteous souls, who feel that you,
and you alone have been selected to be God's children.

I will pray for your souls and hope you wake up before you
actually cross over and meet your maker and then finally
realize just how "sick" your thinking is.

God help you...

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Anyone else????

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posted March 27, 2006 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DayDreamer     Edit/Delete Message
That's messed up! Looks like home is where the hate is. Maybe the US admin should focus on their troubles at home before they go out liberating other countries.

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Rainbow~
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posted March 27, 2006 11:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rainbow~     Edit/Delete Message
Ya got that right!

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1scorp
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posted March 28, 2006 09:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1scorp     Edit/Delete Message
This is personal, and I will most likely edit it out.

I've had a lesbian experience. I've been with men before and after. Does it mean that I'm gay? Doubtful. I love the opposite sex also.

It was something that caught me off guard. She was the most beautiful woman that I had ever met.

It was a couple of summers ago. Do I regret it or feel shameful? No.

I refuse to be limited on who I am able to fall in love with or be attracted to.

If that makes some people mad... well, guess it will just have to be that way.

What makes a person capable of dictating another person's life? Telling them how they are suppose to feel?

Some people hate what they don't understand or haven't experienced.
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Scorpio sun, venus, mars, mercury, and uranus
Libra moon, pluto, and asc.

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1scorp
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posted March 28, 2006 09:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1scorp     Edit/Delete Message
On second thought... no I won't edit it.

It is personal... but I'm not ashamed.
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sue g
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posted March 28, 2006 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
Glad you didnt edit it IScorp.....lovely story and anyone who judges you for this doesnt even deserve to read it !!

Thor....good for you for posting this....very difficult to read man, made my blood boil and i shouted out AAARRRRGGGHHHHHH.....when I saw it.....

F**ked up narrow minded, cruel and heartless people like this ALWAYS astound me, truly they do.......

And unless people like us speak out about this ridiculous behaviour it aint never gonna change.

Get this....my mother used to say "all gay people do it for attention, to be different".......yes mother......AAARRRGGHHHH again......how stupid can you get.....so of course I went on to really find out the truth,that each and everyone of us are special and unique and loved by God, regardless of gender, sexual preference, colour and creed.

Thor. thanks for your time and kindness in posting this......hopefully one day these people will indeed realise how cruel and wrong they are.....

There for the grace of God go we......

love
xxx

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posted March 28, 2006 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
This is awful and horrible. Especially knowing that people with that much hate exist in this world.

Folks, it is no different that saying that anyone deserves to die, regardless of sexual orientation, race, culture, religion or political affliation.

How many times have we heard the calling for the deaths of Westerners for our ways?

What about the Neo-nazi groups that call for the death and destruction of Israel, minorities and any other group it decides not to like (in the US and abroad)?

What about the Muslims that call for the deaths of the Jewish People?


I have heard people here wish for people of various political parties to just simply die and even a few cases which for their murders.

Does the "outrage" make it right or wrong? Does it have to be about one group versus another or can we all agree to call someone a horrible pig and wish them death because we don't like their view, lifestyle, etc... is the same?

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Thorshammer
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posted March 28, 2006 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thorshammer     Edit/Delete Message
Now thats what I am talking bout!!!! I knew there were loud voices here!!! Just reading the piece and absorbing it is enough to make a difference, now you know and you think, it affects you and you send Change out...no matter where you are!

Thank you guys, I knew I could count on you!

Rainbow you are such a sweetheart.

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Rainbow~
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posted March 28, 2006 09:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rainbow~     Edit/Delete Message
Why thank you, Sweetie!

You're pretty sweet yourself...

Love,
Rainbow

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