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peace
Knowflake

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posted May 03, 2006 02:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peace     Edit/Delete Message
Why do some people consider it a turn off?.Is it unhealthy to have them?.

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted May 03, 2006 07:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
I dont understand the question.

A "crush" is a romantic attraction
you feel for someone.

If crushes are bad/unhealthy,
all romance is bad/unhealthy.

From a spiritually ascetic perspective,
I suppose you could say it is bad
to love anyone before God.
Just as its been said
"patriotism is the virtue of the vicious"
(- Oscar Wilde),
you could conceivably say the same
about personal love.

But, Good and Bad are relative terms.
For a student who is ready to graduate from one grade to the next,
it would be bad to stay in the same grade.
Whereas, for a student who is not ready,
there is still much to learn in the lower grade,
and it would be bad to skip that grade.


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peace
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posted May 03, 2006 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peace     Edit/Delete Message
From what I've been told and read crushes can sometimes lead to infidelity.That's what I mean being unhealthy.

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taurean_scorpion
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posted May 03, 2006 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for taurean_scorpion     Edit/Delete Message
as long as you don't act upon it, isn't it okay?

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pixelpixie
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posted May 03, 2006 10:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
I crush on everyone.. It's perfectly healthy.

So there.

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Heart--Shaped Cross
Knowflake

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posted May 03, 2006 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
I still don't understand.

What's wrong with infidelity?

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sue g
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posted May 04, 2006 11:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
Ive always had crushes too....

And good question HSC....what is wrong with infidelity.....?

Hmmmm.....maybe its hurts the other person,if not discussed openly....maybe some look on it as betrayal, as others view it as "sharing"

Depends on the couple I suppose.

Ooooh look three Scorps in a row....

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Heart--Shaped Cross
Knowflake

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posted May 04, 2006 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
So, then, we are not talking about infidelity, as such,
but, about deception and betrayal of trust,
which is another matter.

To answer the original post,
I would say that marriage is unnatural,
and following one's heart is not a crime,
provided one is honest with oneself,
and "it must follow, as the night the day",
with others.

Crush all you want.
If the crush develops and threatens the marriage,
the marriage and not the crush must go;
it must change or end.
Repressing those feelings is futile.
They will only operate in the secret places of your heart,
unconsciously motivating behaviors which
do not reflect your conscious intentions.

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pixelpixie
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posted May 04, 2006 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
ugh.
Classic heart tug stuff.

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Knowflake

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posted May 04, 2006 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message

hi pix,

How are you?
I saw some posts of yours
where you seemed really stressed out.

Are you feeling better?

You didnt comment on my pics.
Do you hate me now?
Did you see them? That's ME!
I really wanted you and 26 to see them.
I'm so libra/leo sometimes.
It is pathetic, I know,
how much I crave that attention and praise.
I wouldnt blame you for boycotting my thread.
Not that you did,
I'm probably just being lunar,
thinking the world revolves around me again.


take care,
Steve


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"My friends, how desperately do we need to be loved and to love. When Christ said that man does not live by bread alone, he spoke of a hunger. This hunger was not the hunger of the body. It was not the hunger for bread. He spoke of a hunger that begins deep down in the very depths of our being. He spoke of a need as vital as breath. He spoke of our hunger for love.
Love is something you and i must have. We must have it because our spirit feeds upon it. We must have it because without it we become weak and faint. Without love our self-esteem weakens. Without it our courage fails. Without love we can no longer look out confidently at the world. We turn inward and begin to feed upon our own personalities, and little by little we destroy ourselves.
With it we are creative. With it we march tirelessly. With it, and with it alone, we are able to sacrifice for others."
- Chief Dan George

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sue g
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posted May 04, 2006 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
HSC

I follow what you are saying man, but it aint always that straight forward is it...?

Like, what about the other person that you have built up love and trust with....and how many "others" are there out there we could have crushes on....it could go on forever, surely?

But being a Scorp with lots of Libra influences in my chart, I do follow you....and having three marriages myself, then I do prove your point really....

Dont I ?

xxx

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pixelpixie
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posted May 05, 2006 12:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
HSC.. You mean.. the world doesn't revolve around you??? What are things coming to? I resign!

Yeah, of course I saw your pictures, silly.....
I just didn't want to be among the many.. but thanks for coveting my response...
*wolf whistle*

I have, in fact, been in great spirits lately.
Today, not so good.. I mean.. I am good.... but it went on a decline... yesterday I was feeling sorta' allergic.. you know, weepy, sneezy, and the rest of the dwarves.... and then this morning, definate decension.. and now, by the end of the day, full fledged brochial attacks and congestion.. it appears I am one of the masses exposed to a virus of some sort.
Blech.
I had a job interview today. I did well, I am sure.... only, I was mislead in terms of renumeration, by many sources.. so while it would have longer term growth opportunities, and I am seeking change.. I might have to take a pay cut initially. We'll just see once they follow up, what sort of lasting impression I made and whether they will offer me base wage plus....
I am looking forward to growth. In all areas...
As such, between this and my declining health, and that I have a show tomorrow with my band, that based upon how I feel this moment, I might have to cancel for the first time ever.... I dunno.. kinda' bummed.
Too much, too little....
Moderation is needed.
Going a little coo-coo.

Thanks for asking.

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WaterNymph
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posted May 05, 2006 07:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WaterNymph     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
Why do some people consider it a turn off?.Is it unhealthy to have them?.

I’ve never had crushes on “real” people. Always film stars or artists…since I was about 12, or earlier even. Maybe it’s because it’s all about fantasy and dreaming and that feeling where nothing seems real
quote:
From what I've been told and read crushes can sometimes lead to infidelity. That's what I mean being unhealthy.

I don’t know what leads to infidelity. My crushes have lead me to fantasise, but that’s it. As I can’t exactly sleep with these people. I know a girl who’s very promiscuous. She claims it’s to do with her low self-esteem and need for validation…and gets kind of aggressive if someone calls her sexy or confident…never met anyone so honest, kind of scary And I can totally relate, because I used to be like that. The need for validation can lead to stupid actions.

Ok I’m waaaaay off topic..

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted May 07, 2006 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
hi sue g,

I know, it is simple, to say,
"follow your heart".
I also know its not a simple thing to do.

We forget how contradictory the heart is.

Ultimately, I wanted to say, "chill out".
Don't repress your feelings.
And don't follow them impulsively.

I know things come and go,
and most crushes have little
to do with the person we crush on.
But they are significant in alerting us
to our presenst dissatisfaction.
Ultimately, most relationships,
however they begin, reach a point
when we begin to face, again, the same things
in ourselves which we were essentially using
the lover to distract us from.
Now, rather than distract us, they have
become a mirror!
Naturally, dissatisfaction with them ensues.
So, rushing into a new fling may be like
rushing into a brand new prison cell.
At least it's different.

So often, crushes are just another longing
to escape the bed we've made,
and are too restless to sleep in.

Depending on so many things,
we can choose to turn and face the strain,
or find a new current to get lost in.
I know, its so circumstantial.
When I talk about these things,
I tend to either get all abstract
and into the ideal principle of the thing,
or I admit all the mitigating particulars,
and realize, I probably dont know any better
than anyone else, when to fish or cut bait.

Thank you for compensating for my excesses.



hsc


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MysticMelody
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posted May 07, 2006 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message
"and the rest of the dwarves" hehehehehehe

in·fi·del·i·ty (ĭn'fĭ-dĕl'ĭ-tē pronunciation
n., pl. -ties.

1.
1. Unfaithfulness to a sexual partner, especially a spouse.
2. An act of sexual unfaithfulness.
2. Lack of fidelity or loyalty.
3. Lack of religious belief.

noun

Betrayal, especially of a moral obligation: disloyalty, faithlessness, false-heartedness, falseness, falsity, perfidiousness, perfidy, traitorousness, treacherousness, treachery, unfaithfulness.
(from Answers.com)


HSC, you said:
"Crush all you want.
If the crush develops and threatens the marriage,
the marriage and not the crush must go;
it must change or end.
Repressing those feelings is futile.
They will only operate in the secret places of your heart,
unconsciously motivating behaviors which
do not reflect your conscious intentions."

Great comment as usual (some daily validation for you hehe).
Honesty honesty honesty.
I guess honesty starts within. I know I struggle with that one.

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted May 07, 2006 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Pix,

"HSC.. You mean.. the world doesn't revolve around you??? What are things coming to? I resign!"

I know, right. It's the end times.
The Universe has shifted off its central axis;
ME,
and is now spinning like a wild top.
People seem to have forgot what is important in life;
ME.
They are giving their attention to so many
insignificant things,-
like each other, -
and neglecting to observe the profundity of...
ME.
It's just like in the bible.

Pix, you could never be among the many, for me.
And I always covet your response.
*bats his long lashes sheepishly*

Remember your Nietzche:
You are not one of the masses,
subject to a sickness, as they are.
Rather, the masses merely exist
in order to try and make you sick,
and thereby test your mettle.

Jesus never said,
Love the Lord thy God with all thy heart,
all thy body, and all thy mind...
Love thy brother as thyself...
and no cancelling shows, under any circumstances!!!!!!...
herein lies the substance of the law,
all the prophets.

I think someone ammended that part of the Word.
Was it you?!?!

Going a little coo-coo is a good thing, Pix.
Its really the quickest way to a saner view.


Love to you,

hsc

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posted May 07, 2006 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks, Mystic Melody.

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