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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted June 16, 2006 02:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
I had never heard of Thomas Troward...

"What you really are in essence is a concentration of the ONE Universal Life-Spirit into conscious Individuality. If you live from the recognition of this Truth as your starting point it makes you Free. You cannot do this as long as you imagine that you have one centre and the Infinite another. You can only do it by recognizing that the two centres coincide and That which as being Infinite is incapable of centralization in Itself finds its centre in you." --Thomas Troward


This is painstakingly well articulated,
and it appears to express my own view.
But I had never looked at it quite that way before.

It sounds almost Cabalistic.

The yod of light descends into matter,
to be as a candle lit to the glory of God,
for all to see.

(Very Cabalistic.)

And Christ himself has said:

"a candle need sit under no bushel!"

Meaning, a man has liberty to uplift his light,
to speak the truth; that he himself is light,
and gives testimonial evidence of an even
greater Light, of which he is but a spark
(albeit, a powerful spark, and brighter than the rest),
and from which he has descended,
for the sake of illuminating the unlit torches
that mortals carry like thorns in their breasts,
and thereby bring light to the world.

When i was a kid we played this game, "disease", which was basically a bastardized game of tag, with the difference that every person who got "tagged" ALSO became "IT" (instead of "IT" being something you traded to the first person you tagged, and the game ends, now, the last one tagged is chased by every one
else. At the end, he gets to pick who's "IT", or, rather,
who's got "IT"; that being the disease.

But what if a Yod of Spirit, and not a viral germ, could be contracted in this way. And let us consider the possibility that, just as certain diseases appear on the face of the earth, and some of these are far more devastating in their impact than others, so, it might be possible to imagine a Godman, in place of a germ, equally as powerful in his capacity for Good, as a germ has power to destroy, entering by the winds (you know not hither they come, nor whither they blow) the Womb of the Virgin, and, by and by, illuminating the Body of Christ?

Imagine,
if Chist was Divinely Inpired,
the way another might be infected...

and Christ tagged the disciples...

(re-lit their spirit fires)

how many degrees of seperation are we

from what amounts to the second coming?

We know not the time nor the place thereof.

But, we are to wait for Him.
Vigilantly, we should light a candle,
and sit by the door,
to wait for His coming.

Perhaps, read the scipture to pass the time.

Until, one day, perhaps, it occurs to us,
that the candle we hold in our own hand,
is a Geniune Spark of the Divine,
Incarnated Here to lead us to Salvation!
The light it sheds is truly the Glory of God!
And our little shack, illuminated by "mere" light,
is, after all, The Kingdom of Heaven.


Christ might also have said
(at least, I'm confident he would agree):

"Who saves one life, saves the world entire."

This is the value of an individual.

Where this is a spark of consciousness,
there is an earth.

And where there is an earth,
there is a potential heaven.


Author's note:

I know there are infinite mistakes
in this ill-fated presentation of "pure truth",
but doesnt it taste just like "pure candy"?

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lioneye68
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posted June 16, 2006 02:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lioneye68     Edit/Delete Message
No, it doesn't ...and its the overcoming of hardship that tastes the sweetest. Otherwise, how would we know what's sweet an what's not, if we didn't have something to compare it to:

Do the hard thing. The hardest thing.

Not the easy thing.

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted June 16, 2006 02:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
This was actually very difficult for me.

I consider myself a work in progress.

I think I just made some incredible strides.

I don't know if I can try any harder,
or be devoted for longer;
long enough to work out the bugs.

How long do you think it will take?
How many lifetimes?

Give me a break, woman!

Relax the whip,
Or ruin the one who runs.

Remove the mote from your own eye.

Or we shall both see partial truth.

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted June 16, 2006 02:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
sorry, but i feel a little dismissed.

I just labored over this thing,
and presented it, full of trust,
faithful that it would at least be
noticed for some of what it is,
and not immediately compared to
the one thing (pure experience)
that it can never, and doesnt pretend to be.

Did you read anything but the "author's note"?
Those roughs...
Those roughs are full of diamonds.

I climed them, I revealed their treasure to you
(did you even look in the direction I was pointing,
or merely shriek in delight to find fault
with a loose thread
on the glove of my pointing finger?)

Are you honestly chastening me
for not having utterly mined them
and set them on your altar?

You're a Leo, right.
Ever felt so worthy of a stroke,
but somebody slapped you in the mouth,
for not bringing down the very biggest
wildebeast in the bunch?


Ouch!

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Heart--Shaped Cross
Knowflake

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posted June 16, 2006 03:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
Incidentally,

if nothing is truly sweet
save for the triumph over hardships...

let me point out,
that, one overcomes hardships
by understanding the very spiritual principles
which I just now managed to sketch out above.

Do you know how hard it is
to get principles to sit still
for a whole portrait?


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"Your faces are beautiful,
but they are wooden masks.

You had better run from me.
My words are fire.

- Rumi
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MysticMelody
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posted June 16, 2006 03:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message
That's ok, I'm the one who needed that message. Sometimes all the garbage thinking gets me confused and I forget the truth. It's true, the truth does taste like candy. And the hard work is getting back to it.
I shouldn't even question it. Thanks for the re-light, I was wandering around in a mist there after spending a whole weekend with a group of confused friends. Their torches are so damp... but sometimes they flicker and sometimes they flame.
It IS nice to be out of the mist though.
Thank you so much, now I know why I stayed up too late.

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted June 16, 2006 03:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
That's what I'm talking about.

Thank you.

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MysticMelody
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posted June 16, 2006 03:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message
Check out my confusing questioning on my thread in Pilgrim's Progress. I have been waiting for an Answer since I sent the Questions out. And look, you didn't even need to go to the thread. That's some service.

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted June 16, 2006 03:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
There's a lot to consider on that thread.

Thank you for bringing it to my attention.

I'm glad my words could be of relevance to you.


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lioneye68
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posted June 16, 2006 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lioneye68     Edit/Delete Message
I'm sorry HSC. I did read that, and it was beautiful. I think the flame that lights our torch is faith - faith that we're all part of a bigger whole, a Loving, Benevolent energy, capeable of more Love than we can possibly imagine. That is what gives us life - that loving benevolent energy. Without that, we are not alive at all. Not in body, mind, nor spirit. In fact, nothing can exist without it. (I say "in fact", but obviously, I can't prove this lol..)

I see your torch, HSC. It burns very brightly, with a pure white light. But I worry about you greatly now - Now that I know. I don't want your flame to get snuffed out.

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted June 16, 2006 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you, lioneye.

Your comments are truthful.
But, just as we cannot exist without spirit, spirit has no magnificence without the beholder;

magnificence is only magnificence
provided it is perceived; -

and, it may be seen and found to be magnificent
in accordance with the degree to which the individual can contain it, mind, body, and soul.

"I believe in you, my Soul—
the other I am must not abase itself to you;
And you must not be abased to the other."
- Whitman

"I run from body, I run from spirit,
I do not belong anywhere."
- Rumi


I appreciate your concern.
I'm doing very well, staying clean.
Thank you.


hsc

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Charlotte
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posted June 18, 2006 06:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Charlotte     Edit/Delete Message
HSC,
The whole post was very thought provoking, I needed to read something this spiritual, sounds as if you were truly inspired!

Quote:
Christ might also have said
(at least, I'm confident he would agree):

"Who saves one life, saves the world entire."

This is the value of an individual.

Where this is a spark of consciousness,
there is an earth.

And where there is an earth,
there is a potential heaven.

Beautifully said.
THANK YOU!

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May the angel of your higher s-elf, guide you always.

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted June 19, 2006 03:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message

Thank you, Charlotte,
You're very welcome.



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