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posted September 13, 2006 04:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Could you date someone with a completely different belief system?(religion,politics,etc) have you? does it really work out or does it just end up coming back to bite you?

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Wednesday
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posted September 13, 2006 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wednesday     Edit/Delete Message
'Course I can. Never had a problem with it. I don't mind it at all as long as they don't force me to convert or anything.

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posted September 13, 2006 05:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpionic Web     Edit/Delete Message
I can't imagine how someone could let a blind belief like religion obscure something as real as love.

And politics are stupid.

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posted September 13, 2006 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message
Date yes. Long term relationship I would hesitate.

I once dated and entered into a relationship with a man who was brought up in a die-hard Catholic family. He once questioned my belief system and regretted it for quite some time.

I was brought up in the Christian church, but since I was a very little girl I questioned Christianity and am quite Pagan at heart..I hold alot of the Druidac principals. His Catholic upbringing "haunted" the relationship eventhough he was not a practicing Catholic.

I dated for several weeks another man who stated his two passions in life were Christianity and Patriotism (I hold little endearment for American militia as well.)He told me once that he could not be intimate with someone who did not live by the Bible, I gave him very detailed examples on how my beliefs and lifestyle were WAY more intune with the Bible than his! He too questioned my belief system and I never heard about it again!

And if one considers marriage and/or children a whole new can of worms is opened.

If two people are mature, open-minded and willing to accept eachother for who he/she is. it is possible, I suppose. But in my experience it is often hard to get around an upbringing of any particular religion and one must tread these waters with respect and dignity!

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posted September 13, 2006 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpionic Web     Edit/Delete Message
I have a friend who dated a Muslim girl, and she loved him, but honestly believed that he was going to hell for not being a Muslim.

I have a Christian friend who won't get into serious relationships with non-Christians for essentially this same reason.

She fears falling in love with a non-Christian, then not being able to enjoy eternity "on the other side" with this person because the non-Christian would be denied from heaven.

I believe that anyone who tries to define God's Will is only setting themselves up for disappointment. Organized religion is for the foolish. NONE OF US KNOW THE TRUTH!!! So none of us should ever act like we have the answers.

I was baptized Lutheran, I don't practice, but I have no reason to denounce it because I have no idea what is right or wrong, and neither do any of you, so I'm going to let the Lutheran thing ride by default.

It seems many people consider their religion a "default".

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posted September 13, 2006 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cat71     Edit/Delete Message
Hippiechick -
"...He told me once that he could not be intimate with someone who did not live by the Bible, I gave him very detailed examples on how my beliefs and lifestyle were WAY more intune with the Bible than his!"

I had a similar experience with an EX-Jehovah Witness: notice the EX, he had been 'dis-fellowshipped' and yet believed and said I was going to Hell for my beliefs in astrology, tarot etc. I was open-minded, HE, the christian, was not!

Anyway, I can tolerate people having different belief systems to me - however, I would not tolerate HATE attitudes such as racism, sexism, homophobia etc. I just couldn't spend my time with a person who was that closed off to the rights and opinions of others

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Dulce Luna
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posted September 13, 2006 09:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message
It depends....I've had some bad experiences in the past with some Protestant Christians who have actually condemned Catholicism and any belief in astrology,tarot,etc.(Actually even the Catholic chrch condemns these things too) I basically had beliefs shoved down my throat. BTW, some of them weren't even people I dated.

Being with my current I know that even though he was baptized Catholic he doesn't believe in alot of what the church says which I'm okay with; sometimes even I find flaws in the Catholic Church teachings. He just knows not to shove beliefs down my throats because I'm very strong-willed about things like religion (just like he is).

I guess I'm open to other belief systems the only thing I don't like is when people try to shove their beliefs down other people's throats. I don't like when people trash other people's religions either; thats downright disrespectful. .

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posted September 13, 2006 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message
Dulce

I do not like condemnation of a person's religious/spiritual beliefs, either! Actually, for those who want/need it religion is a wonderful thing.

Live and let live.

In relationships, though one has to be very careful. Friendships is one thing, as I said live and let live, but in close, intimate encounters, things could get very sticky!

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posted September 13, 2006 10:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpionic Web     Edit/Delete Message
I've heard that Jesus and his disciples were followers of astrology. Does anyone have any information on this?

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Dulce Luna
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posted September 14, 2006 06:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message
Yes Hippichick I agree that things can sticky in intimate encounters like marriage. That is why the two people better make sure that they're really in love (the mature kind of love BTW, not mad passion love/hate) and 100% committed to making the marraige work. Otherwise don't even bother.

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posted September 14, 2006 09:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WaterNymph     Edit/Delete Message
Urrr I don’t think so. I have pretty rigid thinking - and don’t appreciate someone trying to change my mind. It’s like the ultimate pet peeve.

If he doesn’t try to "save me" or whatever, and we respect each others views…we can play nice.

Though to be honest, why risk it? prolly just a waste of time.

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posted September 14, 2006 11:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hot_ice     Edit/Delete Message
cool! we can fight all night...I love arguments...but in the long run.....naaah!

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posted September 14, 2006 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Charlotte     Edit/Delete Message
Same here, in the long run, I would want to be with someone who "gets" me...

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posted September 14, 2006 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Planet_Soul     Edit/Delete Message
At first, I thought my partner and I would be too different for it to work. Since hI really liked him, I gave it a chance anyways. The more I got to know him, the more I realized our views really aren't that different. As for the ones which are (nothing major), we just respect each others side of it and let it be.

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posted September 14, 2006 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
I think it depends on the person and their passion for their beliefs.

If I was with someone that was a rabid Liberal, it would never work. I have my view points and my political party, I respect the others, but I have had an occassion or two to met severely leftest men that only seemed to want to date me to change me. Even if I would laugh it off and say "If living in Portland, Oregon for 5 years and living in Maryland for 6 years didn't change me- you won't"

I have many friends from various religions and different political views. I take what they say with a grain of salt and let it go. To each their own.

But, I would never marry an Athiest or Agnostic. I would be friends with one, but dating them didn't work in the past either. I am a spritual person and my base religion is Lutheran. While I do not preach my views nor do I ever want to convert a person, I don't want to feel ashamed for believing in God. I dated one man that thought I was utterly stupid for graduating college in science, but still attending Church. He would often say "How could you be such a stupid follower, you are educated, you don't need God, you have science?"

My ex-fiance, a Taurus was semi-Liberal and and a die hard Agnostic. He ridiculed my beliefs as often as he could- even though he coined himself "spiritual". He hated astrology, shamanism and even my science background LMAO.. he most likely just hated everything that I was... but that is another story.

I don't want someone that always agrees with me, but it is sure a wonderful thing when I can call my husband (since he is in Germany right now) and never worry about our political discussions or spirituality.

He is a former Mormon- but doesn't practice- he is spiritual in the same way that I am.

So, it does depends. My idea of warming up the sheets is not with someone that is going to challenge me on every single account of every single day to change my political party or my religious affiliations.

Besides, if it hasn't been done in the 36 years I have been alive, I don't see it happening through being brow-beaten.

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posted September 14, 2006 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bluemoon     Edit/Delete Message
There are alot of factor involved and everyone is different. Can you day, sure! We all need to be open minded and accept each other one and a time. and who know, I have heard that opposites attract.............

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