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Glaucus
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posted November 27, 2006 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
I know

I have the book, ASTROLOGY OF LIFE VOLUME II Sabian Aspect orbs

The author correlates every degree of the zodiac with a sabian symbol


the separation of my Sun trine Moon is 117'51

so I look at his book,and it says

28 Cancer(117 - 118 degrees angular separation)
An Indian Girl Introduces her White Lover To Her Assembled Tribe
'inner rebirth through a total acceptance of the primordial values manifest in the human body and its natural function'

My girlfriend's Sun is triseptile my Sun with
23 minutes of arc.
Our Suns have a separation of 153'54

so I looked in the book

4 Virgo(153 - 154 degrees angular separation)
Black and White Children Play Together Happily
'the overcoming of sociocultural prejudices


my girlfriend and I are in an interracial relationship

another thing is that my Saturn/Neptune midpoint is 3'28 Virgo. My Moon in Pisces opposes that midpoint with only 17 minutes of arc. that could indicate my interracial heritage as well as my interracial relationship.

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Dulce Luna
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posted November 27, 2006 09:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message
It kind of makes sense for my dad becuase his new wife is of a different race but I don't know if it completely applies because he one of those "double standard" type of guys. Meaning he can do it, but I can't...in his view of course. But, I've done it anyways.

I liked mine at 26 degrees Cancer, it had to do with a big library.Of course they were speaking of my intellegence....hahahaha

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Lauren
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posted November 27, 2006 10:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lauren     Edit/Delete Message
I can't believe the extent to which he took it, like the fork comment. I think he needs anger management.

This is quite funny, if anyone wants to have a look: http://captainoftheussinevitable.ytmnsfw.com/?3948eec4ac4157c78ee2631e7ed3ee23

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Rainbow~
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posted November 27, 2006 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rainbow~     Edit/Delete Message
I was shocked when I saw that clip on TV......

What he did was totally uncalled for!!!!

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I think he was drunk....I still think hes a racist a-hole....

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Rainbow~
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posted November 28, 2006 01:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rainbow~     Edit/Delete Message
The self-righteous Pid, in all her phoniness, says,

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I could be pushed to no end by someone of color (be they White, Hispanic, Jewish, African American or whatever) and I have in the past been bullied by people, but using the color of their skin or sexual orientation against them never entered my mind.

Oh wow Pid! do you want a round of applause, or what? stop trying to present yourself here, as something that you're not!(excuse me while I throw up....)

Ladies and gentlemen,

Do you know what's so utterly stuPid about this statement ???

The statement makes no sense beause pid has no such standards when it comes to someone's age

So even tho she self-righteously bbrags about NOT using someone' color or sexual orienrientation a gainst them, that does NOT make her the person of such high standards, she'd like you all to believe she is.... (LMAO)

I know from first hand experience folks, that this one, is NOT above hitting waaaay below the belt..

In fact tshe's an expert at it!

She can give lessons, if anyone ants to learn how.....

You see, From the time that she first learned I'm one of the older people hhere, she's been throwing it in my face like it's something to be ashamed of)with the most horrible insults one can imagine

So our litle gal who is presenting herself here, as the perfect picture of whosomeone with such outstanding high standards she would never sink to scertain depths, has already done it , as far as I'm concerned


she started with calling me a drooling old hag....and her insults are never-ending.
as she continues to this day with questions to me like have I changed my"depends" lately (for those who may not know, Depends re diapers for older people who wet their pants..and then goes on to ask me about my "motorized wheelchair"......She rcently asked me "Have you taken your Geritol today old lady?"


and these are some of the milder things she our little 'pid has hurled at me because of my age, so trying to pass herself off as some little saint who doesn't cross certain lines,
is a huge laugh!

Had to call you on that hypocritical comment, Pid....


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lalalinda
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posted November 28, 2006 10:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message
I have no patience for racism
he just commited show-biz suicide
point is, if he talks like that, he thinks like that.

Rainbow please, no more insults please
I truly do love you both

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pidaua
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posted November 28, 2006 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
Rainbow,

It is quite sad that a woman of your professed heritage and age / wisdom, you bring your hatred of me on this forum. This thread was about Kramer, yet you felt the need to attack me for no reason what-so-ever. I can only conclude that since you have not been met with my usual comments to your allegations and outright lies in GU, you feel the need to start stalking me on other forums at this website.

I have been granted freedom of speech since I am a citizen of this fair Country. I made several great points regarding racism in my post and I don't think your hateful speech was warranted in any way, shape or form.

No matter how heated our arguments in GU have become, I have NEVER used someone's race, gender, ethnicity or religion against them. I have, as others, questioned people about extreme organizations (and I count ALL religious and political extremists in that category) because it is my right to do so.

I am sorry you do not have the self-control to contain your bitterness towards me. I am sure everyone that has posted here is impressed with your words (and I mean that sarcastically). You act as though you never said one word to me in anger nor attacked me personally. I will use the cliche "People that live in glass houses should not throw stones". Needless to say, if people want to see the actual story and what you have said to me they can check out the thread with all of your wonderful quotes. I believe they will see how venomous you really are and how low you have sunk. Telling a fellow woman you felt she deserved to be abused by a man because "she is a nasty little wench" seems extreme compared to my story about the geriatric duo. Telling a fellow woman mother nature intended for her to not have children, seems a bit extreme for making fun of a two for one plastic panty sale (which was a part of the story intended to keep the negativity and your constant reference to my ex-fiances male organ to a minimum).

Yes.. I believe the following thread will put A LOT into perspective, if people have the stomach to read your comments. The thread contains your personal quotes as well as who started this horrible rift between you and I.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum16/HTML/002905.html

If you want to continue attacking me, go ahead, you will only embarrass yourself further. This thread was free from attack style posts until you came here.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

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Gooberzlostlovefound
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posted November 28, 2006 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gooberzlostlovefound     Edit/Delete Message
This is a little off-topic, but was there ever a thread about Mel Gibson?

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pidaua
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posted November 28, 2006 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
Gooberz- I think there was, I'd have to search around for it though.

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Natural111
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posted November 28, 2006 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Natural111     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah, those were definitely racists comments, of course.

But I can't stand is the fallout.

I always believed Activism is a high paying career. And all the activists are wiggling their way out of the woodwork. And it's sickening.

Vyying for public office. Jumping on the bandwagon to secure their political position. Just sickening.

And this guy, Michael Richards, man, he's making his televisual rounds. Why? Because they're afraid of losing the Seinfeld syndication audience, which is largely African American and Urban. Also, the new DVD just came out and they don't want sales to slump.

So, you know, in the end, it's all about money. And that's what's sickening to me.

If this guy can just admit he's a racist. And he went off and showed his true colors, then hey, that's it. He's just a man. You know. Just a man. It's the money that's on display now. And that's where we're at as a society. Sickening.

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Natural111
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posted November 28, 2006 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Natural111     Edit/Delete Message
Dang Computers! It posted twice.

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pidaua
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posted November 28, 2006 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
I had no idea that Sienfeld would be so appealing to the African American population Natural. Why do you think that is? It never quite appealed to me because being from the West and not understanding a predominately Jewish theme, it left me feeling like I didn't quite get the jokes. Although some episodes were hilarious. When I moved out East and worked in Baltimore, MD, I started to understand the tone and rapid way of speaking- so then it kind of made sense.

In the same respect, shows like the OC or Beverly Hill 90210 left me thinking - holy cow - while there are some similarities, we so don't act like this in Laguna. LOL....

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Jazzebel
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posted November 28, 2006 08:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jazzebel     Edit/Delete Message
I just tried to read the thread Pidaua linked above and I honestly couldn`t read further then the 4th page. What a bloody disgusting thread. I can`t believe people posting on THIS Forum such as Linda land, could fall so down the road of mutual nasty attacks. Pidaua, I have always admired your straightforwardness. Not anymore. I had NO idea you could be so disgraceful in your speech. Nothing said in the forementioned thread could`ve justified such coarce attitude. You could have handled it in a more intelligent manner, I WAS sure.

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lalalinda
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posted November 28, 2006 10:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
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Hes a leo. ]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Richards....and

quote:

Don’t drag astrology into this. Leos are normally beyond great!!!...aqua inferno

I haven't looked at his chart but this is exactly what a strong Leo placement is going through right now. Not this specifically but life altering choices and/or mistakes, this one's a whopper.

edit: sorry guys I'm referring to Saturn's transit through Leo.


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lovely*
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posted November 28, 2006 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovely*     Edit/Delete Message
No I don't think Seinfeld was watched by predominantly black folks, no way is that true. Urban folks, maybe..because being in NY and what not.

I live in Laguna Beach, people I associate with are far from what the OC or Beverly Hills 90210 portray us to be. You would not know if someone here was wealthy because it's very low-key & spiritual. Artists & celebs live here for that reason.

Rainbow & Pid..what can I say. You're both strong women, in a ******* match, and so what? Bigger things out there to think of ya know? Cheap shots. Who hasn;t made one & who hasn't hurled one ever in thier life?

You're both forgiven ..can't we just love you both but not take sides? It's the Libra merc talking so don't eat me alive people. Pixie where are you dear? (said in a "car 54..where arrrrre you" voice)

Richards is clearly angry, depressed, intoxicated and has darkness around him. He will suffer for his little disgusting display. I bet he never works again.

I agree with whoever mentioned the money aspect behind this situation. It's sad to see Jerry Seinfeld out there defending this dummy for money's sake, but ya know what..Jerry is a multi-millionaire. He doesn't need the money in exchange for bad publicity. If I recall, he is on the Forbes top 100 list. Maybe not, but I bet he's close...

And I'm sure this racist tirade has totally ruined Richards already floundering career. This guy should be sent love, not hate or anger.

What would Jesus do?

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Natural111
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posted November 28, 2006 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Natural111     Edit/Delete Message
Pidaua, during my graduate studies, in my Television Programming, Nielsen reports that during it's first run days, it was very highly rated amongst African Americans, and mostly male, actually, which is probably why a lot of black men where in the audience the night Richards went off. Because amongst them, Kramer was a popular character. Why? Because, he's sort of like that jack of all trades. A type of character that has been popular in black sitcoms. Lennay in Good Times. Brother Man on Martin. Are two. The guy that has everything you need in his coat pockets. Why? Because we all know the hook up man. I can tell you stories about my brother's friend Ira. This guy, had one of my brother's other friend sleep in a Wallmart parking lot all night because they were supposed to get a deal on some DVR's. So the two guys fell asleep, and in the morning, the girl who was supposed to get them the deal, wasn't even there that night. See, that's such a Kramer thing to do. And, at least every black person knows someone just like that. So, Seinfeld had/has characters blacks can relate to.

I watch it! Even the reruns! Its' some great writing. Some great characterization. Dialog. Interaction amongst character. Action! Great work.

(sorry had to edit, got your name wrong )

Oh, and yes, Lovely, it is very well documented, we spent a whole three weeks on ratings and relating them to the political economy of TV, and yes, Seinfeld rated hight amongst African Americans. The two black guys in the class where Seifeld experts!!

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Dulce Luna
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posted November 28, 2006 11:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message
Seinfield is popular among African Americans? Sounds like an odd choice but then again I'm not an African American ( I'm a foreigner) but I'm not so sure about the urban culture thing. I've never heard anyone discuss this show religiously.

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lovely*
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posted November 28, 2006 11:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovely*     Edit/Delete Message
Natural11, thanks dear. I did edit my post right after for a typo in the first paragraph.

I found your experience very enlightening. Isn't it so cool we can come here and have these discussions?

love to all of you,

PS. Did you hear black leaders are requesting Richards pay 500K for each time he said the N word? I guess that would be 2.5 million. Wouldn;t it be great if he did pay up and the money went to schools, such as the ones in New Orleans, who so desperately need resources?

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Natural111
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posted November 29, 2006 12:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Natural111     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah, Lovely....

And you know what I call that...
Extortion!

Because any time you see the jokers coming out of the woodwork, believe me, they are getting paid. BY SOMEBODY. I think it's the lawyers. Because do you know how many police brutality and such reports happen, daily! But you don't see these people unless it's a sure thing. And believe me, they see money written all over this. NBC! And it's milions upon millions. NBC even migrated their programming to their cable/lower power networks. That's what they're doing today. See, NBC can't syndicate their own programming on NBC, their highpower channels, but they can migrate them to their cable networks and get paid hand over fist. So, you see, the "Activists", heck, they know that!!!
So, they're not looking to get into Michael Richard's pocket. Uh, uh.....
And NBC just wants this to go away! Because if the press stops, then in two months us good old Americans will go back to business as usual.

But never mind me. I distrust them all. The Kennedys, and the Clinton's. Money, rules them. They manipulate so that they can gain. And I like the Clinton's. But I know for certain that old Bill was a supporter of deregulation of television. Regean got rid of the FCC and Bill finished it off. I can go on, so I'm going to stop myself right now But I will say agendas and politics are complex. Especially when it brings great profit and power. So you have to the eat the meat and spit out the fact, and take the lesser of the evils.

The LOVE of money is the root of all evil.

Yikes! I said too much!

Peace all!

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lovely*
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posted November 29, 2006 02:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovely*     Edit/Delete Message
Yes..it's extortion. Do you think that money would ever go to a benevolent cause?

& yes..plantiff's lawyers are just sickening for the most part. They are cause for much concern over business. New life saving drugs & biotechnology for example, are often put off because of these fckers.

Just curious Natural, why do you mention NBC and not CBS and ABC? Personally, I think CBS sucks for cancelling my favorite show ..(Out of Practice). I anticipated that show every week damn-it.

Those networks are all rubish because they compete. But...it's free. We can choose to press the off button.

I like Bravo. Top chef anyone?

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posted November 29, 2006 11:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
Natural,

Wow.. I had no idea- that is pretty cool about the research. Thank you for providing that information

Lovely*,

I was raised in Laguna / Irvine and I absolutely know what you mean. When I first started watching the OC I thought it was cool because it featured alot of my old haunts, from Crescent to the Wedge. LOL.. then it got pretty darn tacky. I will say this though, they were pretty spot on with how plastic that paradise can be. I never saw it in myself until I moved to go to school in Portland- where most people did not spend $250 on a dress for Winterformal and Limo's were a luxury not a necessity for transportation LOL.....


As to the other reference- I know what you mean and I have been trying to put a stop to it. It is one thing to have it contained to GU but lately people have been bringing out grievances to other forums and that just isn't cool. It has also been something that never occurred until recently.

In any case... I don't think that Michael Richards should have to pay $2.5 Million for any expletive unless other minorities that use racist remarks do it as well. I love Carlos Mencia, but if you have heard his comedy and how he addresses people in the audience, he can cross the line. Still, I have not seen anyone ask him to pay.

Then again, he did not address people in anger using derogatory racist terms. I do feel he has a racist bend or else he would not have be so prone to the verbal diarrhea that spewed from his mouth.

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lovely*
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posted November 29, 2006 11:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovely*     Edit/Delete Message
Pid, I don't know what I'll do when my children are old enough to go to dances. There is pressure to impress your peers. I guess that's been going on for ages.

Have you been back to OC lately? I'd love to grab a coffee next time you're in town.

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posted November 29, 2006 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
I never watched the OC. I couldn't really believe they went there... but then again it is local to LA, so why not? From the ads it didn't exactly look like the OC I grew up in.

I can't necessarily confirm the spirituality of the place, but I can confirm the presence of the most huge American churches I've ever seen being there. I grew up going to a few of them.

I'm disappointed I won't be going there this Christmas. My parents asked me out to Tennessee instead.

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As far as the topic is concerned, I've seen people like that many times in my life, and I can honestly say I'll never ever understand how someone can claim not to be racist after having gone on a racist rant.

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Natural111
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posted November 29, 2006 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Natural111     Edit/Delete Message
Lovely

I mentioned NBC because Seinfeld's first run was on NBC.

But check out this link. Everyone, it's very informative. NBC is owned by GE. It was THE first television NETWORK. It had a red subsidiary and a blue. But, this link is very enlightening. You'll see that NBC, ABC (Dinsney) and CBS have the whole media market sewn up. They even own most of the cable companies, and their migrating their programmng their and collecting on the syndication. That is, fees from advertisers. http://www.cjr.org/tools/owners/

and

http://www.freepress.net/ownership/chart.php

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