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zenwarner
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posted December 01, 2006 08:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for zenwarner     Edit/Delete Message
http://www.pandgkills.com/facts/index.html

visit this website!


Each year, thousands of animals die in Procter & Gamble laboratories -- the victims of painful, archaic and entirely unnecessary product tests. Caustic chemicals are forced into the eyes of rabbits and applied to animals' shaved and raw skin.

Laboratory workers place the animals in restraining devices so they cannot struggle while the workers apply the chemicals, which burn into the animals' eyes and skin. P&G "scientists" do not sedate the animals or give them pain killers.

Animals sometimes break their necks or backs attempting to escape the pain. Those that survive are used in yet additional painful tests ... until they are finally killed. The victims include rabbits, guinea pigs, hamsters, ferrets and other animals.

P&G refuses to stop testing its products on animals, despite the fact that these tests are not required by any law, and despite the fact that more reliable and humane alternatives do exist.

Procter & Gamble spends millions of dollars to package itself as a responsible, caring company, and claims to be a leader in the development of alternatives to the use of animals in product testing.

But P&G refuses to put its money where its mouth is. In 1996 alone, P&G spent $5.1 billion on advertising. This stands in stark contrast to the $64 million that P&G claims to have spent on developing alternatives over a 14-year period!

Despite its repeated P.R. claims about being in the forefront of developing alternatives and reducing product testing on animals, P&G's priorities seem clear: in less than 5 days, P&G spends more on advertising than it claims to have spent in 14 years on alternatives to painful and lethal animal tests.

The fact is, P&G says one thing and does another. If they truly shared our goal of eliminating animal cruelty, P&G would not have lobbied to defeat a bill before the California legislature that would have banned the infamous Draize eye-irritancy test.

In reality, P&G relies on these archaic tests strictly for its own protection from liability lawsuits. The truth is that P&G could stop animal testing today without hindering anyone's safety. Until it stops its animal cruelty, the letters P&G will stand for nothing but Pain & Greed!

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lovely*
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posted December 05, 2006 12:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovely*     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks dear zenwarner for posting this! I'm guilty of using Pampers for my baby. edited to add: tampax

I will now do my best to find an alternative. The organic diapers are really expensive and abrasive unfortunately. I could deal with the cost part if it weren't for the fact they are uncmfy on baby's tooshie. Cloth is not an option for me

I don't like mainstream products because of a sensitve nose. I can't stand chemicals. Smelling strong fabric softener for example, literally makes me ill.

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future_uncertain
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posted December 05, 2006 08:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message
I'm surprised this didn't get a bigger response. I'm guilty of reading this and not responding. However, you have made a difference for me as I've decided to discontinue using these products as much as possible (if not completely.)

However, I must say that I do love the new Pampers.

Thanks for posting this!

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zenwarner
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posted December 05, 2006 10:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for zenwarner     Edit/Delete Message
thanks i was a little discouraged by the lack of response. i was shocked when i discovered that so many products in my home were on this list. over 14 products.

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pixelpixie
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posted December 05, 2006 10:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks zenwarner!

Years ago, I wrote to this company, and they assured me they had discontinued testing on animals, but that they had in the past...

I was dismayed because they were cosmetic products I used... ie; wholly unnecessary, and not what I would consider anything to hurt anyone over. Not that animals should be hurt for any reason, including people.
I deal with P&G at work. I'll be asking more about policies again.


In terms of diapers.. I have been researching more alternatives, yet I am lazy....

If you're interested, here's what I found; http://www.parentingbynature.com/fuzzi_bunz.htm
http://www.gdiapers.com/gdiapers101

and some startling information;
http://www.bareware.net/diapfaq.htm

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lovely*
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posted December 06, 2006 01:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovely*     Edit/Delete Message
Future, I like the new pampers too.

Thanks pixie for the information. I'm going there now!

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hot_ice
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posted December 06, 2006 06:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hot_ice     Edit/Delete Message
yes...there are more humane methods..use humans instead..there are too many anyway...

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miss_muffet
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posted December 06, 2006 08:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for miss_muffet     Edit/Delete Message
LOL... HotIce! I thought that was what the Nazis did, with one exception of course (that they did it to a specific race).

Use humans, indeed!

MM

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future_uncertain
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posted December 06, 2006 08:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, *lovely, they are pretty nice! How old is your little one? (Forgive me if I've asked you before.)

Pixelpixie... how cool that you've already spoken with the company in the past. It would be great if you could give us an update if you get one. I haven't checked out your links yet, but I'm on it.

(Psst... how ya doin', Mama?!)

Thanks again zenwarner. I, too, have a lot of P&G products in my home. It's difficult to escape them... they're everywhere!

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future_uncertain
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posted December 06, 2006 08:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message
I just counted that I currently carry 19 of these brands in my home.

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zenwarner
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posted December 06, 2006 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for zenwarner     Edit/Delete Message
pixelpixie, thanks for the links. and hot_ice, that what upsets me the most. the fact that there are other methods. humane way to test products.

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zenwarner
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posted December 06, 2006 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for zenwarner     Edit/Delete Message
pixelpixie, thanks for the links. and hot_ice, that what upsets me the most. the fact that there are other methods. humane way to test products.

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future_uncertain
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posted December 06, 2006 11:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message
I might just try the GDiapers, Pix. Have you come to any conclusions?

I also found a thread in GG on cloth diapers. Good read.

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