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zenwarner
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posted February 18, 2007 03:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for zenwarner     Edit/Delete Message
U.S. has more science smarts - sort of

SAN FRANCISCO - People in the U.S. know more about basic science today than they did two decades ago, good news that researchers say is tempered by an unsettling growth in the belief in pseudoscience such as astrology and visits by extraterrestrial aliens.

In 1988 only about 10 percent knew enough about science to understand reports in major newspapers, a figure that grew to 28 percent by 2005, according to Jon D. Miller, a Michigan State University professor. He presented his findings Saturday at the annual meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science.

The improvement largely reflects the requirement that all college students have at least some science courses, Miller said. This way, they can better keep up with new developments through the media.

A panel of researchers expressed concern that people are giving increasing credence to pseudoscience such as the visits of space aliens, lucky numbers and horoscopes.

In addition, these researchers noted an increase in college students who report they are "unsure" about creationism as compared with evolution.

More recent generations know more factual material about science, said Carol Susan Losh, an associate professor at Florida State University. But, she said, when it comes to pseudoscience, "the news is not good."

One problem, she said, is that pseudoscience can speak to the meaning of life in ways that science does not.

For example, for many women having a good life still depends on whom they marry, she said.

"What does astrology speak to? Love relationships," Losh said, noting that belief in horoscopes is much higher among women than men.

The disclosure that former first lady Nancy Reagan consulted an astrologer resulted in widespread derision in the media, but few younger people remember that episode today, she said.

Miller said most readers of horoscopes are women, contributing to the listing of "female" as a leading negative factor in science literacy. Women also tended to take fewer college science courses, he said.

Belief in abduction by space aliens is also on the rise, Losh said.

"It's not surprising that the generation that grew up on `Twilight Zone' and early `Star Trek' television endorsed a link between UFOs and alien spacecraft," she said.

Pseudoscience discussion is often absent from the classroom, Losh said, so "we have basically left it up to the media."

Raymond Eve of the University of Texas at Arlington had mixed news in surveys of students at an unnamed Midwestern university.

The share that believed aliens had visited Earth fell from 25 percent in 1983 to 15 percent in 2006. There was also a decline in belief in "Bigfoot" and in whether psychics can predict the future.

But there also has been a drop in the number of people who believe evolution correctly explains the development of life on Earth and an increase in those who believe mankind was created about 10,000 years ago.

Miller said a second major negative factor to scientific literacy was religious fundamentalism and aging.

Having taken college science courses was a strong positive influence, followed by overall education and informal science learning through the media. Having children at home also resulted in adults being more scientifically informed, he said.

Nick Allum of the University of Surry in England suggested belief in astrology might be a simple misunderstanding of the question, with people confusing astrology with astronomy.

In one European study about 25 percent of people said they thought astrology was very scientific. But when the question was rephrased to horoscopes that fell to about 7 percent.

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virgotaurustaurus
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posted February 18, 2007 04:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for virgotaurustaurus     Edit/Delete Message
While I'm glad that the country worries about whether people are getting knowledge about science or not (I'm an Environmental Sciences major with a Bio concentration in college currently so of course I'd support that), I think this article is really unfair, unprofessional, and wrong in that it seems to assume a correlation between the level one "believes" in astrology and how much they "believe" in science and science related evolution. How can it assume that if people have a rising level of belief in astrology that belief in sciences must be suffering now? Why can't they be seen as going hand in hand? Why must we only believe in things that science says to be true? Not everything science has proven to be true has always been proven to be true by science; they were once beliefs as well. I also find it funny that the only people I have known in real life to love astrology and become absorbed in it are also very strongly scientific people.

And the astrology this article is talking about is the tiny 1 paragraph for each sign newspaper horoscopes. It doesn't even acknowledge astrology as people here on this forum know it. And the assumption that those who believe in astrology go to it for love relationships? This article is so one-sided and they didn't do their research, which is really not surprising.

I also don't see how just because more readers of horoscopes are women that contributes to the word 'female' as a negative factor in science literacy. I'd say that sentence right there is discriminatory against women, why is it if I read a horoscope then it leads to a negative in science? This is ridiculous. Or, oh no, I have certain chromosomes AND watch the X-files, I must be ruining science. And I don't tend to take fewer college science courses, that's all I am taking right now. Women are stated as if they are all the same. How about maybe women are not encouraged at a young age to learn about science or math? Or told that they shouldn't be interested in it? How about 'female' being a negative in scientific literature is because science traditionally has been very male-based and this society STILL holds beliefs that women shouldn't be or can't be intelligent in science, instead of blaming women for that plight just because they happen to read something that is in front of their face in the newspaper every morning? How about if horoscopes are that bad and unavoidable that they be banned from newspapers? They aren't real astrology ANYWAY. How about if horoscopes are that bad that the spot they take up in the paper is replaced with science articles geared towards women to get them more interested? How about that. Oh wait no that would get those horrible females to be in scientific literature!!!

And why don't philosophy classes or religious classes get attacked as well, since they aren't exactly science based? Or even art?! What a boring world this would be if everything was science alone.

Oh, and the article never once mentions that astrology has a psychological/healing slant to it.

These researchers sound like they are in no way professional. They did not do research on whether there is a correlation between higher belief in pseudosciences leading to lower belief in sciences. Their conclusions are totally unfounded, there is no data available to them to show them this. They are assuming a whole lot of stuff. That is not how science works, that is total fraud and lies. They cannot make those claims until they have data that shows there is a positive correlation, with significance. Absolutely unprofessional.

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted February 18, 2007 07:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
This is just another typical example of the scientific community's arrogance and bull-headedness. They have systematically dismissed the claims of astrologers without due consideration and experimentation, despite the fact that many of astrology's greatest proponents were and are highly conscientious scientists who began their study of astrology with the intention of finding evidence to debunk it. The evidence to prove astrology's effectiveness is now abundant, but the mainstream scientific community of our time had closed its doors and ears to us. They are so terrified of seeming foolish, they won't even dare to listen for five or ten minutes. Boo! LOL.

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Johnny
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posted February 18, 2007 06:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Johnny     Edit/Delete Message
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