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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted March 21, 2007 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
Or anyone with strong Scorpio/Pluto or Virgo/Chiron energies strong in their charts.
(Yeah, I think Chiron rules Virgo)


How do you deal?

How do you learn to tolerate people's bullsh!t,
when you see right through it all the time?

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thirteen
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posted March 21, 2007 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thirteen     Edit/Delete Message
Virgo here,
Just remember. Most people do mean well. I just learned this in a class i was taking and it helped me cope with bs at work. BS is everywhere. People do beleive their POV. You have to learn to find a way to accept that.

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1scorp
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posted March 21, 2007 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1scorp     Edit/Delete Message
I'm usually embarrassed to be lumped in with or even possibly share similar traits with most Scorpios.

Edit: I apologize. It's just how I feel.

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Scorpio sun, venus, mars, mercury, and uranus
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fayte.m
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posted March 21, 2007 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
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1scorp
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posted March 21, 2007 05:11 PM
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I'm usually embarrassed to be lumped in with or even possibly share similar traits with most Scorpios.

ME TOO!!!!!!!!
I do not like being branded as a typical Scorpio!
Yes, it is embarrasssing! I would much rather be a Cancerian or a Capricorn.
I was born very early...I was supposed to have been born a Christmas/New years baby!
Scorpio Sun
Aquarian Moon
Venus in Scorpio
Capricorn ASC.

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~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
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mezzoelf1
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posted March 21, 2007 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mezzoelf1     Edit/Delete Message
Learn humility! Look, a trait of the sign (scorp) is to see quite clearly 'through' people but this tends only to be the case when standing face to face, so to speak. We are not wishy washy but we do have so much potential for wisdom, kindness and generosity of spirit! Being a teacher has taught me so much about being 'open' to all sorts of possibilities - I have my opinions and beliefs challenegd on a daily basis (that's not to say I change them) but it makes life so much more enriching!

As a general rule, if there is a meeting at work where things need to be said 'straight to the point' then I am aksed to join in - if its all about being PC and towing the party line I tend not to bother(I am NOT tactless enough to say something silly but) because I find it so annoying I sit and fume! It has been noted by others!

HSC - my lovely, calm your troubled spirit. You have much to offer, as I've said before, but remember, temper/measure everything you do with love and compassion.

x

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lotusheartone
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posted March 21, 2007 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
I have Neptune in Scorpio and my MOon
and Uranus in Virgo...

I believe we need to learn tolerance
and patience. ...

and that's for everyone, I really don't like when the signs get separated, we must overcome them all, Master each One, don't you think?

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lotusheartone
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posted March 21, 2007 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
hehe, Mezzoelf1, we posted at the same time!

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted March 21, 2007 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message

thirteen,

Thanks for the advice.


1scorp -

If your apology is sincere,
why not delete what you wrote?

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted March 21, 2007 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
okay, I'm going to edit my initial post,
to explain that when i say scorps and virgos
i mean anyone with these energies strong.

and for future reference that is always what i mean.
i am not one to stereotype.
in fact, in my experience,
i have found most scorpio ascendants
tend to be more scorpionic than the sun scorps.

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goatgirl
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posted March 21, 2007 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for goatgirl     Edit/Delete Message
Not a Scorpio or a Virgo, but have them in my chart.

We were sitting in the room meditating on our last meal, and going back step by step from us to where it came from. As I was going along, I pictured the (more than likely) illegal/migrant immagrants who worked the fields to try and make a better life for their family, then I got to the sun.

As I was contemplating all this, I got the feeling that how we will heal our collective humanity problems is love. "All we need is Love." So simple, yet true love comes with understanding. And understanding takes patience. Patience can be hard to come by at times, especially if someone's opinion shakes your foundational beliefs. Patience takes love. Guess it's a cycle too =)

Just wanted to share.

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After silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is music." - Aldous Huxley

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1scorp
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posted March 21, 2007 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1scorp     Edit/Delete Message
"If your apology is sincere,
why not delete what you wrote?"

Nah, I'm not gonna play.
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mezzoelf1
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posted March 21, 2007 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mezzoelf1     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Lotus - how is it we seem to think similar things at similar times?!

You know what?! That made me laugh out loud with real joy and amazment because I've never seen a picture of you, we live in different countries but so often I feel such a deep resonance with what you say and your spirit in general...is that weird?! I've lOved our exchanges in the OOber Galaxy..

LOve! x

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted March 21, 2007 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you, mezzoelf,
for your sound advice,
and for sharing your experiences.

I try.


HSC
Sun/Venus/MC/Uranus in Scorpio
Sextile Chart Ruler (Saturn) in Virgo
Chart Ruler in the 8th house
Pluto Square Ascendant
Sun opposite Chiron
Moon square Chiron
Jupiter Square Chiron
Virgo North Node
Ceres conjunct Ascendant and sq. Pluto
(some say ceres rules virgo)

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lotusheartone
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posted March 21, 2007 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
Mezzoelf1 , I feel the same way, like sisters and brothers feel...which we all are...I know we have crossed paths in other life times, as we do now, it's just a knowing feeling, of LOve LOve LOve...

your words mean the WORLD to me...

we are all family...I LOve you ALL
no matter what, hehe

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mezzoelf1
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posted March 21, 2007 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mezzoelf1     Edit/Delete Message
Right! Time to spread some LOve and Light to all and I mean this!

HSC - a BIG BIG BIG hug to you hon! You really need to take a break from it all and just let your spirit find some a peace.

If I could hug every soul here now I would -one of my dance class kids has been going through a bit of a rough patch and I've sort of become a mentor/role model to her (her words, not mine!) such a thing is a great privilage...she came bounding up and gave me a HUGE hug and it nearly made me cry! I was overwhelmed... and it the best mood for the rest of the day!

True LOve and true compassion are the only TRUTHS we need.

BIG HUGS GUYS! x

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mezzoelf1
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posted March 21, 2007 05:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mezzoelf1     Edit/Delete Message
oooooooooo - lots of typos. Sorry, that'll be the wine! heehee!

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lotusheartone
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posted March 21, 2007 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
Mezzoelf1, that is wonderful, what a great teacher, feel all that LOve...
Awesome!

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lotusheartone
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posted March 21, 2007 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
Enjoy, you deserve it!

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CrankyCap
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posted March 21, 2007 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrankyCap     Edit/Delete Message
HSC,

I've got a bit of that Scorp/Virgo energy you're talking about. I've always been able to smell a lie, and spot a phony like a rotten piece of meat. My intuition is very strong.

I've been reading the threads on here although I've held off in contributing because I didn't feel that they were actually going anywhere...just endless circles.

HSC, you are an exceptional person. Without a doubt. You know it, we all know it. You are a wonderful teacher and philosopher. No one could dare to argue that unless they are completely ignorant. I have nothing but respect for you and I ENVY you my friend. I truly do.

Here is where I believe you may have run into problems; the majority of people do not and cannot think the way that you do. When I said that you were exceptional in regard to your intellect, that can also be interpreted as "rare." This is why you feel misunderstood, this is why people are misinterpreting what you say. Your challenge, probably for the rest of your life, will be to find a way to get your point across so that others can easily follow it. I would never enter into a philosophical debate with you because I know I wouldn't stand a chance. It is difficult for me to grasp all of the concepts that you put forward. My mind works differently. Simplicity can be profound, and it is the BEST way for you to reach the masses. If you can find a way, with all due respect, to "cut to the chase" I think you may find that people will respond to you with less hostility and more understanding. You seek the truth, so find that meaty little nugget in all of your literature, and point it out. Sometimes the simplest explanation is the correct one. The fastest way from point a to point b is a straight line. You know where I'm coming from? Sometimes when I read your posts I find myself getting lost and wishing that there was a "Steve for Dummies" out there! That's what you need to do...find a more simplistic way to reach people. And for anyone reading this...no, I do not think the rest of us are dummies...myself included. Steve just has a highly advanced intellect that I don't think many people can grasp, and that in turn, can make life frustrating on his end.

Steve, you remind me of Will in "Good Will Hunting." No one challenged him, until he meets Robin William's character. Remember how he finally gets through to Will? Simplicity. Sitting on a park bench talking to him about LIFE. Real life, not just the sonnets of William Shakespeare, or the delicate brush strokes of Michaelangelo...life itself. Just remember that books give us the ideas, but life gives us the experience.

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lotusheartone
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posted March 21, 2007 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
I have Pluto in Virgo...forgot...

Stephen,
Have you seen all the mistakes I
have made?

I call that learning the hard way...works fast, but it's really no fun. ...

know what I mean?

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Isis
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posted March 21, 2007 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isis     Edit/Delete Message
I've got 5 planets in Scorp including the sun...does that count? lol

I'm familiar with that attitude that you expressed (learning to tolerate people's ******** when you see right through them), and I have to say that in my experience, that perspective just sets one up to feel alone in a great big world, an island, isolated.

We live in a world with people. If we really look, the critic in us can find fault with anyone - see through their self delusions, etc...But all that view accomplishes IMO is feeling alone in an ugly, crazy world, like you're the only one that "gets it".

So maybe sometimes we validly see through other people's BS - we have IMO two practical reactions to that....we can walk away and remove ourselves from those people in our arrogance, or learn that you can be confidant in what you believe without having to convince others of that. (Or the 3rd option, admit that perhaps we don't see as much as we think we do...) If you strip everything away from it, IMO, it's arrogance at it's finest, the idea that little old me, or you, or whomever, has all the answers and gets something that everyone else on this huge rock just doesn't get.

I found that we have to change our perspectives (virgos/scorps) or you just end up flabbergasted and frustrated. A little humility, at least on the part of Scorps (all the virgos I know are plenty humble), goes a long way as well.

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted March 21, 2007 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
thank you


crankycap,

thank you, scarecrow ("I'll miss you most of all" - dorothy).

I love that movie.
I've probably seen it ten times.
Where's my Robin Williams, lol.


love
s

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CrankyCap
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posted March 21, 2007 08:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrankyCap     Edit/Delete Message
Anytime. That's funny...I always felt a strong affinity toward the Robin Williams character!

And I'm proud to be the scarecrow...though I may never be a probabilities expert, I know I've got a lot of heart, a lot of courage, and a whole lot of compassion!

Love to you.

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Xena
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posted March 22, 2007 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xena     Edit/Delete Message
(8th House Sun, Virgo Asc)

How do I deal with BS?

I question people about themselves. I cross-examine them (probably would'a been good as a barrister).
Especially useful when someone is having a go at one for NO reason. It depends on the situation. Sometimes I don't get angry (in a day-to-day living or business situation), I turn the conversation around and keep asking questions. That way, they reveal to me that what is really irking them is THEIR OWN problem, which they prefer to blame me for. Trying to assess these people's true personality, knowing their weaknesses, gives me a sense of power over them. I then go out of my way to avoid them. Point blank.

When it's warranted (ONLY when I have been really pushed, and in a personal situation) I get angry and acid and sarcastic, and that's great fun, and I relish it... yeah, I actually enjoy twisting the knife. But only when someone has p-ed me off comprehensively.

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