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Xodian
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posted April 23, 2007 11:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xodian     Edit/Delete Message
Well thus ends another stereotype .

Couch Entitlement

Surprise—men do just as much work as women do.

By Joel Waldfogel

Source: http://www.slate.com/id/2164268/?GT1=9330

Summary:

Everyone from economists and sociologists to Oprah knows that women work more than men. Their longer combined hours, at the home and at the office, stop men from taking afternoon naps on the couch and cause fights that end with men spending nights on the couch. And yet according to new study, those longer hours are a myth, because it's just not true that women carry a heavier load.

Throughout the world, men spend more time on market work, while women spend more time on homework. In the United States and other rich countries, men average 5.2 hours of market work a day and 2.7 hours of homework each day, while women average 3.4 hours of market work and 4.5 hours of homework per day. Adding these up, men work an average of 7.9 hours per day, while women work an average of—drum roll, please—7.9 hours per day. This is the first major finding of the new study. Whatever you may have heard on The View, when these economists accounted for market work and homework, men and women spent about the same amount of time each day working. The averages sound low because they include weekends and are based on a sample of adults that included stay-at-home parents as well as working ones, and other adults.

While men and women spend about the same time working in rich countries, women do work more than men in poor countries. And the gap widens as countries get poorer. While in the United States, which has a per capita GNP of roughly $33,000, there is no difference between the amount of male and female work, in Benin, Madagascar, and South Africa, which have a per capita income of less than $10,000, women work one to two hours more per day than men.

So, what explains the difference in the time that men and women spend working in richer vs. poorer countries? It's not a matter of women leveraging their greater earnings in places where they can earn more than men. Alas, there are no such places, and women do not reap greater market rewards in the countries where women work the most relative to men.


Three economists, Michael Burda of Humboldt University in Berlin, Daniel Hamermesh of the University of Texas, and Philippe Weil of the Free University of Brussels have analyzed data from surveys in 25 countries that ask people how they spend their time. Some of the countries are rich, like the United States and Germany, some are poor, like Benin and Madagascar, and some are in the middle, like Hungary, Mexico, and Slovenia. The people surveyed were asked to fill in diaries indicating how they spend each segment of their day.

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Isis
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posted April 23, 2007 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isis     Edit/Delete Message
That's interesting. Every woman I know with children who works outside the home, works a lot more then their husbands/bfs do. While their significant others do tend to work a few more hours at their jobs/week, the work the women do inside the home, including childcare, far exceeds their menfolk's slightly longer work week.

To be fair, I can't really say the same of the women I know who don't have children.

One thing I do notice is that there seems to be a more equitable sharing of domestic duties in younger couples (>30) - that gap seems to widen enormously for the people I know >45. I hear a lot of older women (60+) complain that the men get to retire at a certain age, but they never do (they still do all the cooking, cleaning, laundry, etc).

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Mirandee
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posted April 23, 2007 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mirandee     Edit/Delete Message
True what you said in most cases, Isis.

On the most part women with children do carry a heavier work load. They also have to schedule time for chauferring kids to and from school and after school activites, grocery shopping, trips to the doctor and dentist for the kids etc.

My husband has always shared the work load and still does in his retirement. So while it is true what you said about couples in their 60's on the most part, some of us got lucky and got good ones.

Men do have a heavy work load and I appreciate them for that. It's just that in most relationships and marriages it never is a ideal 50/50 arrangement. We are lucky if it is 60/40 but rarely is that ideal equal sharing of the care of the kids which is a job in itself and the household chores.

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Xodian
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posted April 23, 2007 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xodian     Edit/Delete Message
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One thing I do notice is that there seems to be a more equitable sharing of domestic duties in younger couples (>30) - that gap seems to widen enormously for the people I know >45.

True , and not to mention that younger couples tend to be more liberal and supporting of their partner's career aspirations as well, which kinda defies the usual conventional thinking that younger couples don't know any better about relationships.

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NAM
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posted April 23, 2007 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NAM     Edit/Delete Message
I am not even going to finish reading that.
Single mom over here, two boys, no father around for anything, not financially , not moral...nothing!

But when i was married I can assure you i worked a lot more than he did, for some reason being sitting in the couch holding a beer and watching tv just doesn't seem like work to me.

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Xodian
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posted April 23, 2007 09:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xodian     Edit/Delete Message
I am really sorry to hear that and actually your complaint is quite valid; If you look at the survey, it didn't cover single-parent cirumstances or stay at home dads either. However, in the "general" sense, the survey is quite accurate.

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TheEvolution
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posted April 24, 2007 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TheEvolution     Edit/Delete Message

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TheEvolution
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posted April 24, 2007 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TheEvolution     Edit/Delete Message
opps! that turned out to be huge!

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NAM
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posted April 24, 2007 03:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NAM     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, it did! LOL

But I get the message loud and clear.I also would like to see that, although I hear it will never happen

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