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Mirandee
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posted June 24, 2007 11:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mirandee     Edit/Delete Message
This doesn't happen everyday.

SANTIAGO, Chile, June 21, 2007


Glacial Lake In Chile Disappears

Park Rangers Discovered A Dry, 100-Foot Crater In May Where A Glacial Lake Had Been In March



(CBS/AP) A glacial lake in Chile's southern Andes has disappeared, and scientists want to know why.

The disappearance of the five-acre lake in Bernardo O'Higgins National Park was discovered in late May by park rangers. Where the lake had been in March, they found a dry crater 100 feet deep, as well as several large pieces of ice that used to float atop the water.

"The lake had simply disappeared," said Juan Jose Romero, regional head of Chile's national forest service, or Conaf. "No one knows what happened."

Conaf plans a multidisciplinary expedition to the lake and promised a detailed explanation for its disappearance within a month, reports the Chilean daily El Mercurio.

Some experts are attributing the lake disappearance to the affects of global warming, while others blame it on a recent earthquake that struck southern Chile a month ago, adds El Mercurio.

But Sergio Sepulveda, of the Geology Department at the University of Chile, shot down the direct link to global warming.

Global warming could have melted the ice and increased water levels, which, in turn, could have put pressure on the glacial lake's walls and caused a break, he said. But global warming is not going to cause the lake to disappear in one month, added Sepulveda.

A river that flowed out of the lake was reduced to a trickle.


Š MMVII, CBS Interactive Inc. All Rights Reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. The Associated Press contributed to this report.

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posted June 24, 2007 11:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SattvicMoon     Edit/Delete Message
Interesting news Mirandee. We have had 8 days of continuous rain, and heavy storm. There are reports that a few wells have appeared in some places. Prior to the appearance of these wells, people have heard some rumbling noise beneath the earth, like gushing water, and eventually the wells started to appear, and they are going deeper each day.

Who knows what?!!!

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Dulce Luna
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posted June 25, 2007 12:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message
How weird.

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Solane Star
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posted June 25, 2007 08:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solane Star     Edit/Delete Message
WOW!!!
Thats kind of scary guys.

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26taurus
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posted June 25, 2007 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Happy Dragon     Edit/Delete Message
re ** Glacial Lake In Chile Disappears **

.. it's been found ..
~ http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/low/uk/6236348.stm ~
was seen down in nsw a few weeks back .. then disappeared again ..

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Mirandee
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posted June 26, 2007 01:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mirandee     Edit/Delete Message
Hmmmm, Well, I guess I know where all the rain is, Sattvic and Dragon. It sure isn't here. We have had maybe an inch of rain all through the month of June and are experiencing draught conditions here in SE Michigan. Very unusual for Michigan in June. I am having to water my flowers everyday just to keep them alive but they need the rain to grow.

Don't know what explains a lake just disappearing. Hope when scientists find the cause we get an update on that.

As for the rest, there have been flooding and deaths in Texas due to heavy rains too, we are having a La Nina year. They are predicting that the hurricane season will be much worse this year due to La Nina. From what the weather people say La Nina is the mean sister of El Nino. Anyway I think that is what explains the weird weather patterns.

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posted June 26, 2007 02:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mirandee     Edit/Delete Message
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration


La Nina FAQ

What is La Niņa?

La Niņa is defined as cooler than normal sea-surface temperatures in the central and eastern tropical Pacific ocean that impact global weather patterns. La Niņa conditions recur every few years and can persist for as long as two years.

What is the difference between La Niņa and El Niņo?

El Niņo and La Niņa are extreme phases of a naturally occurring climate cycle referred to as El Niņo/Southern Oscillation. Both terms refer to large-scale changes in sea-surface temperature across the eastern tropical Pacific. Usually, sea-surface readings off South America's west coast range from the 60s to 70s F, while they exceed 80 degrees F in the "warm pool" located in the central and western Pacific. This warm pool expands to cover the tropics during El Niņo, but during La Niņa, the easterly trade winds strengthen and cold upwelling along the equator and the West coast of South America intensifies. Sea-surface temperatures along the equator can fall as much as 7 degrees F below normal.

Why do El Niņo and La Niņa occur?

El Niņo and La Niņa result from interaction between the surface of the ocean and the atmosphere in the tropical Pacific. Changes in the ocean impact the atmosphere and climate patterns around the globe. In turn, changes in the atmosphere impact the ocean temperatures and currents. The system oscillates between warm (El Niņo) to neutral (or cold La Niņa) conditions with an on average every 3-4 years.

What causes La Niņa?*

Typically, a La Niņa is preceded by a buildup of cooler-than-normal subsurface waters in the tropical Pacific. Eastward-moving atmospheric and oceanic waves help bring the cold water to the surface through a complex series of events still being studied. In time, the easterly trade winds strengthen, cold upwelling off Peru and Ecuador intensifies, and sea-surface temperatures (SSTs) drop below normal. During the 1988- 89 La Niņa, SSTs fell to as much as 4 degrees C (7 degrees F) below normal. Both La Niņa and El Niņq tend to peak during the Northern Hemisphere winter.

What's the difference between La Niņa and El Niņo?*

Both terms refer to large-scale changes in sea-surface temperature across the central and eastern tropical Pacific. Usually, sea-surface readings off South America's west coast range from the 60s to 70s F, while they exceed 80 degrees F in the "warm pool" located in the central and western Pacific. This warm pool expands to cover the tropics during El Niņo but shrinks to the west during La Niņa. The El Niņo/Southern Oscillation (ENSO) is the coupled ocean-atmosphere process that includes both El Niņo and La Niņa.

What are the global impacts of La Niņa?

Both El Niņo and La Niņa impact global and U.S. climate patterns. In many locations, especially in the tropics, La Niņa (or cold episodes) produces the opposite climate variations from El Niņo. For instance, parts of Australia and Indonesia are prone to drought during El Niņo, but are typically wetter than normal during La Niņa.

What are the U.S. impacts of La Niņa?

La Niņa often features drier than normal conditions in the Southwest in late summer through the subsequent winter. Drier than normal conditions also typically occur in the Central Plains in the fall and in the Southeast in the winter. In contrast, the Pacific Northwest is more likely to be wetter than normal in the late fall and early winter with the presence of a well-established La Niņa. Additionally, on average La Niņa winters are warmer than normal in the Southeast and colder than normal in the Northwest.

What is the forecast for sea surface temperatures for the remainder of 1998 and into winter 1999 and how strong will the event be?

The latest National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) coupled-model forecast (an ocean-atmosphere model) (July 1998) indicate strengthening cold episode conditions in the tropical Pacific during the remainder of 1998.

More Info!
The Observed 7-day Mean Sea Surface Temperature and Anomaly are available at NOAA's Climate Prediction Center.


Other statistical and coupled-model forecasts indicate a similar evolution. The consistency among the available predictions together with the evolution of oceanic and atmospheric conditions since early May indicate that a cold episode is developing and will likely continue through the northern 1998-99 winter.
The current forecasts indicate that the 1998/99 La Niņa will be a moderate to strong episode.

What is the forecast for U.S. weather patterns for the remainder of this year and into 1999?

NOAA's Climate Prediction Center issues monthly long lead climate outlooks that extend for the next 13 months. The forecast issued on July 16, 1998, calls for continued above normal temperatures throughout most of the Southwest U.S. and southern Florida in the late summer and fall. Into the fall, warmer than normal temperatures are forecast for much of the Southwest including Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and portions of Colorado. These conditions will extend across the Southeast during the winter months. Cooler than normal temperatures are expected for the Pacific Northwest in the winter. Temperatures are expected to be cooler than normal across the Great Lakes and Northeast later in the winter into spring.
Drier-than-normal conditions will persist in west Texas, New Mexico and Arizona through August and into October.

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The long-lead forecast release schedule is available at NOAA's Climate Prediction Center.


The late fall and early winter forecasts indicate continued dry conditions throughout much of the southern United States and into portions of the Midwest. Greater than normal precipitation is predicted for the Pacific Northwest throughout the fall and into the winter months and for the Ohio and Tennessee River Valley in the winter. Temperature and precipitation patterns in areas that are not specifically addressed by the forecast are not predictable at this time.

Does a La Niņa typically follow an El Niņo?

No, a La Niņa episode may, but does not always follow an El Niņo.

Is there such a thing as "normal", aside from El Niņo and La Niņa?*

Over the long-term record, sea-surface temperatures in the central and eastern tropical Pacific diverge from normal in a roughly bell-curve fashion, with El Niņo and La Niņa at the tails of the curve. Some researchers argue there are only two states, El Niņo and non-El Niņo, while others believe either El Niņo or La Niņa is always present to a greater or lesser degree. According to one expert, NCAR's Kevin Trenberth, El Niņos were present 31% of the time and La Niņas 23% of the time from 1950 to 1997, leaving about 46% of the period in a neutral state. The frequency of El Niņos has increased in recent decades, a shift being studied for its possible relationship to global climate change.

How often does La Niņa occur?

El Niņo and La Niņa occur on average every 3 to 5 years. However, in the historical record the interval between events has varied from 2 to 7 years. According to the National Centers for Environmental Prediction, this century's previous La Niņas began in 1903, 1906, 1909, 1916, 1924, 1928, 1938, 1950, 1954, 1964, 1970, 1973, 1975, 1988, and 1995. These events typically continued into the following spring. Since 1975, La Niņas have been only half as frequent as El Niņos.

How long does a La Niņa last?

La Niņa conditions typically last approximately 9-12 months. Some episodes may persist for as long as two years.

How do scientists detect La Niņa and El Niņo and predict their evolution?

Scientists from NOAA and other agencies use a variety of tools and techniques to monitor and forecast changes in the Pacific Ocean and the impact of those changes on global weather patterns. In the tropical Pacific Ocean, El Niņo is detected by many methods, including satellites, moored buoys, drifting buoys, sea level analysis, and expendable buoys. Many of these ocean observing systems were part of the Tropical Ocean Global Atmosphere (TOGA) program, and are now evolving into an operational El Niņo/Southern Oscillation (ENSO) observing system.

More Info!
Ka'Imimoana home page
TAO array
National Center for Environmental Prediction
Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory

NOAA also operates a research ship, the KA'IMIMOANA, which is dedicated to servicing the Tropical Ocean Atmosphere (TAO) buoy network component of the observing system. Large computer models of the global ocean and atmosphere, such as those at the National Centers for Environmental Prediction, use data from the ENSO observing system as input to predict El Niņo. Other models are used for El Niņo research, such as those at NOAA's Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory, at the Center for Ocean-Land-Atmosphere Studies, and other research institutions.

Why is predicting these types of events so important?

Better predictions of the potential for extreme climate episodes like floods and droughts could save the United States billions of dollars in damage costs. Predicting the onset of a warm or cold phase is critical in helping water, energy and transportation managers, and farmers plan for, avoid or mitigate potential losses. Advances in improved climate predictions will also result in significantly enhanced economic opportunities, particularly for the national agriculture, fishing, forestry and energy sectors, as well as social benefits.

What is the relationship between El Niņo/La Niņa and global warming?

The jury is still out on this. Are we likely to see more El Niņos because of global warming? Will they be more intense? These are the main research questions facing the science community today. Research will help us separate the natural climate variability from any trends due to man's activities. We cannot figure out the "fingerprint" of global warming if we cannot sort out what the natural variability does. We also need to look at the link between decadal changes in natural variability and global warming. At this time we can't preclude the possibility of links but it would be too early to definitely say there is a link.

Is this a "La Niņa" hurricane/tropical storm/drought/fire/flood/winter storm?


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Hurricane information from the National Weather Service


It is inaccurate to label individual storms or events as a La Niņa or El Niņo event. Rather, these climate extremes affect the position and intensity of the jet streams, which in turn affect the intensity and track of storms. During La Niņa, the normal climate patterns are enhanced. For example, in areas that would normally experience a wet winter, conditions would likely be wetter than normal.

How is La Niņa influencing the Atlantic and Pacific hurricane seasons?

Dr. William Gray at the Colorado State University has pioneered research efforts leading to the discovery of La Niņa impacts on Atlantic hurricane activity, and to the first and, presently only, operational long-range forecasts of Atlantic basin hurricane activity. According to this research, the chances for the continental U.S. and the Caribbean Islands to experience hurricane activity increases substantially during La Niņa.

What impacts do El Niņo and La Niņa have on tornadic activity across the country?

Since a strong jet stream is an important ingredient for severe weather, the position of the jet stream determines the regions more likely to experience tornadoes.

More Info!
Tornado information from the National Weather Service


Contrasting El Niņo and La Niņa winters, the jet stream over the United States is considerably different. During El Niņo the jet stream is oriented from west to east over the northern Gulf of Mexico and northern Florida. Thus this region is most susceptible to severe weather. During La Niņa the jet stream extends from the central Rockies east- northeastward to the eastern Great Lakes. Thus severe weather is likely to be further north and west during La Niņa than El Niņo.

How are sea surface temperatures monitored?

Sea surface temperatures in the tropical Pacific Ocean are monitored with data buoys and satellites. NOAA operates a network of 70 data buoys along the equatorial Pacific that provide important data about conditions at the ocean's surface. The data is complimented and calibrated with satellite data collected by NOAA's Polar Orbiting Environmental Satellites, NASA's TOPEX/POSEIDON satellite and others.

How are the data buoys used to monitor ocean temperatures?

Observations of conditions in the tropical Pacific are essential for the prediction of short term (a few months to one year) climate variations. To provide necessary data, NOAA operates a network of buoys that measure temperature, currents and winds in the equatorial band. These buoys transmit data that are available to researchers and forecasters around the world in real time.

Why has the public not heard much about La Niņa before now?*

For many decades, scientists have known about the oscillation in atmospheric pressure across the tropical Pacific at the heart of both El Niņo and La Niņa. However, La Niņa's effects on fisheries along the immediate coast of South America, where El Niņo was named, are benign rather than destructive, so La Niņa received relatively little attention there. Research on La Niņa increased after its wider impacts (often called teleconnections) were recognized in the 1980s.

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posted July 04, 2007 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine9     Edit/Delete Message
They found the cause of this, and it wasn't alien or all that mysterious after all!! We still do need to be very aware of the global warming issue.

quote:
Scientists solve puzzle of Chile's missing lake

SANTIAGO (Reuters) - Scientists said that a lake in southern Chile that mysteriously disappeared last month developed a crack which allowed the water to drain away.

A buildup of water opened a crack in an ice wall along one side of the lake. Water flowed through the crack into a nearby fjord and from there into the sea, leaving behind a dry lake-bed littered with icebergs, scientists told Chilean state television on Tuesday.

"It looks like it's slowly filling up with water again," said Andres Rivera, a glacier expert who headed a team which recently flew over the lake in a bid to solve the mystery.

The lake is situated in the Magallanes region in Patagonia and is fed by melt-water from glaciers. Earlier this year it had a surface area of 4 to 5 hectares (10-12 acres) -- about the size of 10 soccer fields.

Scientists noticed it had disappeared during a routine patrol of the area in May.

Rivera said the incident was evidence of the effects of global warming.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070703/sc_nm/chile_lake_dc;_ylt=AjosaDbYi19fyR9R8mqHAN8hANEA


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SattvicMoon
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posted July 05, 2007 05:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SattvicMoon     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks.

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Mirandee
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posted July 05, 2007 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mirandee     Edit/Delete Message
Cool. Thank you so very much for that update, Sunshine.

I sort of suspected that global warming may have been the culprit. I guess we can expect more of these odd occurances.

I read that the ice caps are melting so fast that Polar Bears are in dire straits. They are turning to killing their own cubs for a food source which is highly unusual behavior for polar bears. So sad.

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