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Topic: Conjure The KS Ghost Here
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Mirandee
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posted September 06, 2007 11:11 AM
June 20, 2006 is over 14 months this being Sept., Lotus. Although the precise, exact timetable is not the point. The point is that it is the past. Yesterday is the past now, Lotus. It takes time to go back in the archives to search for posts. It seems like such a waste of a person's precious time to make all that effort searching for a post to throw in another person's face when that time could be used for something more productive. It would better serve to use our leisure time to reflect on ourselves and our own faults and what we need to work on inwardly than to use our time in an attempt to find evidence that may show the faults of others. I have noticed positive changes in you, Lotus. I have noticed changes in Star too and others here at LL. I couldn't have noticed those changes in people if I had once and for all decided that you were a certain type of person and that's that. Over and over I hear people at LL tell others to move on. How can anyone move on if we keep dragging them back to the past? It's impossible to move on if a person is always looking backwards to the past. It's like walking backwards in life. You don't get where you are headed walking backwards. If we are reminding others of the past all the time it shows that is where we are stuck. That's where we live. Otherwise we woudn't even consider what a person said a year ago. In fact if we were totally living in the present we wouldn't even be considering what another person said or did yesterday. Yesterday is gone. Nothing that happened yesterday can be changed. We don't know what is going to happen in the future so all we have is today. We don't even know what is going to happen that might forever change our lives a minute or two from now. We can't say for certain that we will even be alive tomorrow. Life is lived a second and a minute at the time. So why dwell on the past and what was? Doing that cripples us. It does not allow us to move forward. Holding others to the past does not allow in our minds room for them to grow and change either. Goatgirl stated the best words of wisdom on this thread when she spoke of beating a dead horse. Conjuring up KS and what a person said in the past IS beating a dead horse because it is in the past and nothing that happened in the past can ever be changed. This does not just apply to you, Lotus. It applies to everyone including myself. We all tend to look backwards way too often. Look for the good in people instead of their faults. None of us are perfect human beings. We all have faults. Those faults in ourselves are what we should be looking at and concentrating on and working to improve. We can't improve the faults of others only our own. We can't grow if we have a mental list of friends and enemies. Even people who have been our most staunch adversaries can become our friends if we don't hold grudges from the past and instead forgive. Allowing for that to happen we come to know that the person is not really the person we thought them to be but instead we see what a good and beautiful person they truly are. If we see people in the context of the good guys and the bad guys and we can't forgive but instead hold grudges bridging the gap between us can't happen. Basically that kind of view of others and the world as good and bad people is what causes wars, discrimination and all other evils. I am not telling anyone anything they don't already spiritually know. Just reminding them and myself of what we all know. I see good and wonderful qualities in you, Lotus. I also see those in Star, lalalinda, AG and others. I also see the faults in others ( probably much clearer than I see them in myself ) but I don't demonize people in my mind based on their faults because I look for the good in a person as well. It's much easier to bridge gaps of past differences and arguments if we look for the good in people instead of concentrating on their faults and where we felt they messed up. It's my feeling that lalalinda has something she feels is unresolved concerning KS that she is attempting to work out so she can put closure on it. If we can all stop with the accusations and personal attacks on each other, including AG and lalalinda, and talk civily and reasonably about it then it is possible that it can be resolved in lalalinda's mind. But if we keep throwing accusations at each other, pointing out each other's flaws and dragging out everything the person ever said in the past nothing is going to be resolved. It is only going to create more things to hold grudges over. It's non-productive. Start with today not yesterday and go from there. I am just tired of seeing all the judging of other members of LL and all the arguments on the boards here every day. IP: Logged |
Mirandee
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posted September 06, 2007 11:34 AM
Lalalinda  There is productive argument ( debates are arguments ) and non-productive arguments of just name calling and throwing accusations at people. Zala and I started this thread so that the KS thing might be worked out in productive debate. Not that we actually thought that would happen.  Also we started it in an attempt to keep it from being brought up on threads that are posted for things other than KS. Especially in this case a thread welcoming back another knowflake. I am not attempting to censure people just attempting to keep it civil according to the guidelines that Randall set into place for LL. Those guidelines of conduct on the boards here in discussions pretty much state, " Say what you mean but don't say it mean." My attempt here is as of a mediator attempting to keep the discussion from getting out of hand. I thought that was what a moderator was supposed to do at LL. In fact when I volunteered for the job I stated that I would attempt to keep things more civil around LL and try to clean up the atmosphere around LL. I thought that was the reason that Randall set the guidelines of conduct in discussions. Productive arguing in the context of giving and sharing out thoughts and opinions is great. Personal attacks on other people is not productive and in fact, is against the guidelines of conduct that Randall put in place and that all members agreed to when they signed up to be a member of LL. What I am saying is go ahead and argue your points regarding KS but stop the personal attacks. It's against the rules of LL. Not deleting threads for the archives is a good thing. But not a good thing when those archives are used as a weapon against other people. Regarding the thread that Zala recently deleted, before deleting that thread she got the permission of both the parties involved before deleting it. I started the thread and she had my permission to delete it. I would follow Zala's example and get both yours and AG's permission before pushing the button.
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lotusheartone
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posted September 06, 2007 12:40 PM
June...okay
July 1, August 2, September 3, October 4, December 5, January 6, February 7, March 8, April 9, May 10, June 11, July 12, August 13,
September 5th, does not even make 14 months..
Mirandee, you can't count, sorry..
MOther and Father God showed me what was going on in emails, and all the backstabbing, talk behind members backs continues, so KS, is still alive and well..I'm not playing games, I'll call a spade a spade, okay..
and this was between myself and Solane Star and AG, could you be so kind, as to let us work it out???LOve and Reverence to ALL. ... Lalalinda  P.S. Anyway, I don't really have anything more to say, I've said what I need to... .
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AcousticGod
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posted September 06, 2007 01:16 PM
Lotus, You left out November. IP: Logged |
lotusheartone
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posted September 06, 2007 01:21 PM
okay November 15, almost 15 months..
there, is that better?june 20 so 10 days, then 5 days
14 months and 15 days Two years would be 24 months
24 - 15 so, some of you folks added 9 months LOve and Reverence to ALL. ...
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fayte.m
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posted September 06, 2007 01:24 PM
Lotus 
First off you are sadly right about some from KS, and I doubt they will ever think honestly kindly about either you or I. 
We should try our best to avoid those ones.
They are only happy when you agree with them.If you do not, you become in their minds the enemy. No sense in even trying with them, they hear only their side. However AG never spoke ill of you to anyone as far as I remember.
I too was belittled by 4 there who thought I was nuts for wanting too still talk to you later on.
One of the ones who trashed you the most deleted their offensive posts the day of KS being outed.
Again, nothing to with AG.
I really wish this stupid KS thread was never begun.
It proves nothing.
The guilty will never admit their guilt and AG was not one of the nasty talkers there. To my knowledge only one trasher is even still here at LL and needs to look hard at their own kettle before calling yours black.
I have seen you make great strides in yourself.{{{HUGS}}}
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fayte.m
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posted September 06, 2007 01:31 PM
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What I am saying is go ahead and argue your points regarding KS but stop the personal attacks. It's against the rules of LL.
I differ here as rarely do I ever see the rules enforced when I have been subject to personal attacks.
Nor was Lotus defended when her and Silverstone were unjustly attacked and lied openly about.
Only I defended them both which did not make several folks very happy.
Lotus dear let it go....when you try to fight them they will bring up your past....yet get angry when theirs is brought up.
Double standards do abound.
Even folks who knew you were innocent got very upset when I defended you and Silverstone...and went on about how can you defend her after what she did in the past? I said, because she is not doing it now and she is innocent NOW and does not deserve to be unjustly attacked and lied about.
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~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
Everything changes.
Fear not the changes.
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Randall
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posted September 06, 2007 01:36 PM
WS, the only structure similarities between the original Linda Goodman site and this one were the Linda Goodman name in the Domain and an Astrology Forum. I felt that Linda's other beliefs, teachings, and writings (namely those expressed in Star Signs and Gooberz) were grossly underrepresented at the "Official" site, so I created the Forum Topics you see here. In sharp contrast, AG duplicated us verbatim. ------------------
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fayte.m
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posted September 06, 2007 01:49 PM
Randall I must in part disagree.
AG did use some of the same forum headers but there were also headers that had titles that do not exist at LL. When LL was down awhile back, now that one, he did copy. But no so with KS.
May I ask one question?
If he had made a site totally different from LL and not mentioned Linda, would you still be angry about it?
I mean, there are alot of other sites out there LL folks are members of like Concious Evolution and some Yoni site and several other various sites.------------------
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~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
Everything changes.
Fear not the changes.
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posted September 06, 2007 02:11 PM
I was talking about the duplicate site. As far as KS goes, it really isn't the similarities (or lack thereof) that concerned me. ------------------
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lotusheartone
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posted September 06, 2007 02:19 PM
Fayte, I understand what you are saying..and I will leave it alone, and maybe AG, didn't say anything negative about me, but he allowed others on his site to! He was responsible, and he needs to accept that..what people said..the forums he copied, and that they voted and excluded people, it's all wrong in my eyes..and since it was his site, he must accept that!
And the fact that I can see right through him..
even though lots can not..he sure knows how to fool people..And, Randall this site you created, is home
to Linda Goodman, this is where her spirit
lives, and will always remain..all these beautiful forums..keeping her alive..
Thank-you
Thank-you
Thank-you LOve and Reverence to ALL. ... P.S. I've been called back into work, someone called in sick, so I won't be around for the rest of the day. IP: Logged |
Solane Star
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posted September 06, 2007 04:00 PM
Healed Healer(1)Anyone who has released being victimized by old wounds or personal history, having healed his or her past experiences, issues, feelings and fears. A healed healer no longer lives his or her life through the lens of past wounds and faces life with the clarity of being in the present moment. If old pain is triggered in the present situation, the healed healer can feel it and release it in the NOW. (2)Any individual who has healed his or her life and offers loving assistance to others in any way that he or she can. The act of supporting others in their growth process makes everyone who can listen, offering kindness and encouragement, a healer. IP: Logged |
fayte.m
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posted September 06, 2007 04:09 PM
Thanks for your reply Randall.
I think I understand.------------------
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~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
Everything changes.
Fear not the changes.
"My body is physically disabled, but I am not my body nor am I its disabilities!"
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fayte.m
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posted September 06, 2007 04:53 PM
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Fayte, I understand what you are saying..and I will leave it alone,
Thank you. quote:
and maybe AG, didn't say anything negative about me,
AG never said negative things about anyone as I remember. quote:
but he allowed others on his site to! He was responsible, and he needs to accept that..what people said..
OK....in a small way I can slightly agree with you. But not in that he allowed those 4 to rip into you and in to me. AG was often..in my opinion...an absent Webmaster....but then again that happens here too. One cannot keep an eye on everything. And when I noticed folks being extra nasty, and brought it to his attention..AG often did delete their posts. I did not go into most forums because of two people, one still here speaking out of both sides of their mouth as their whim strikes, so did not see all the stuff either. I knew two of them, both women, were the worse offenders. For that I am sorry, but I just tried to stay clear of them. quote:
the forums he copied,
I can see why some are offended by that, but there are alot of forums out there, not just TA and KS. quote:
and that they voted and excluded people, it's all wrong in my eyes..and since it was his site, he must accept that!
Yes they did. Many sites do that. Some abused the privilege of a being at a private place and that was wrong. But most there behaved quite well. Please do not blame it on everyone. The voting was done because of mainly one member..and the site actually created so that one member could talk about sex all they desired. You would not have liked seeing their OTT sexcapades!
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And the fact that I can see right through him..
even though lots can not..he sure knows how to fool people..
Lotus I thank you for ones you warned me about..you were right on with some of your read on them. But you are not right all the time. because you are sometimes right; or partially right; I will take your feeling under consideration as I do not write with AG anymore and do not know him well. But he has been usually nice to me, and never outright mean and nasty to me unlike some.(the Jekylls & Hydes) Yes I have seen him fight here at LL, but GU is a war zone I intend to try to keep clear of. Most everyone fights there.
I am tired of all these arguments.
I am tired of being attacked for disagreeing.
I am sitting here wondering who will stomp me for speaking again.
I do not like that feeling.
So I will do as I did at KS...stay out of the
way of the known bashers and forked tongue speakers as best I can.
Hurt feelings all around.
Let KS die already.
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"Heaven doesn't want me and Hell is afraid I'll take over and start a rehab for the damned!"
~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
Everything changes.
Fear not the changes.
"My body is physically disabled, but I am not my body nor am I its disabilities!"
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fayte.m
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posted September 06, 2007 05:15 PM
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(1)Anyone who has released being victimized by old wounds or personal history, having healed his or her past experiences, issues, feelings and fears. A healed healer no longer lives his or her life through the lens of past wounds and faces life with the clarity of being in the present moment. If old pain is triggered in the present situation, the healed healer can feel it and release it in the NOW.
A healed healer can indeed do that.
But if a past adversary returns and inflicts new wounds and also rips open the old scars....and the adversary continues to apply the salt and rub in their own excrement or poison in the hh's new wounds, even a hh will have trouble healing.
Even healers healed or otherwise only have so many cheeks to turn.------------------
"Heaven doesn't want me and Hell is afraid I'll take over and start a rehab for the damned!"
~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
Everything changes.
Fear not the changes.
"My body is physically disabled, but I am not my body nor am I its disabilities!"
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AcousticGod
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posted September 06, 2007 08:14 PM
LindaLanders who were never part of KS that have emailed me in the past 6 months: 14
Messages sent to me: 78KS/LL people who have contacted me in the last 6 months: 5
Messages sent to me: 82 Number of LLers (who were not part of KS) who contacted me before leaving here in the last 6 months: 4 Number of LLers who have consulted me privately to get a Capricorn man's perspective: 2 Length of time since a KSer emailed me prior to this latest drama: First person: Almost 3 months
Other person: About 3.5 months
(Yeah, that's right. I've only heard privately from two former KSers since this latest outbreak.) So there's the stats. Fayte is very accurate in stating my disconnection from not only her, but almost everyone since I've been in a relationship. IP: Logged |
fayte.m
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posted September 06, 2007 08:32 PM
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Fayte is very accurate in stating my disconnection from not only her, but almost everyone since I've been in a relationship.
AG
And unlike some I am very happy you are busy and have a life! I know you have not written because you are very busy! You told me long ago when we first began e-mailing that you can go long periods of time without writing when you are deeply involved and busy or cannot think of anything to say.
I am not in the least offended you have not written in some time.
Keep enjoying your life!
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"Heaven doesn't want me and Hell is afraid I'll take over and start a rehab for the damned!"
~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
Everything changes.
Fear not the changes.
"My body is physically disabled, but I am not my body nor am I its disabilities!"
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lotusheartone
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posted September 07, 2007 12:24 AM
Okay, I'm sorry, but I can't help myself..this realization is too much for me..
AG, you are on here, in Lindaland 24/7, I don't see how you could have a relationship, or a job..if I was to post all your posts, for each day..well, it's not possible, you have a relationship or a job, you're just, HERE...Do you have a life???LOve and Reverence to ALL. ... IP: Logged |
lalalinda
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posted September 07, 2007 12:32 AM
I know, I was thinking the same thing about work  IP: Logged |
lotusheartone
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posted September 07, 2007 12:40 AM
hehe, Lalalinda, it just doesn't add up..there's been times I'm here alot,
and well, that was when I had the time,
but this is really over-board. ...  LOve to ALL. ... IP: Logged |
lalalinda
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posted September 07, 2007 12:43 AM
especially for someone who has an important job like "working with other people's money"   IP: Logged |
lotusheartone
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posted September 07, 2007 12:46 AM
or, one that has a relationship...
cause I know if I was in a relationship..
well, I wouldn't be posting right now, lolI LOve ALL, no matter what..SO
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lalalinda
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posted September 07, 2007 12:48 AM
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AcousticGod
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posted September 07, 2007 12:53 AM
Lotus,Everything you say illustrates that you really have no idea when it comes to me. It's surprising given my openness, and it's sad given your willingness to judge. Do you think it would help if someone quizzed you about me? I think then you'd realize just how vague your impression is. What goals do you have for your posts here? If you can illuminate the "real" me, the me that only you few people can see, why is it so difficult? What is the cloak you think is before everyone's eyes? How do I fool people into thinking that I'm not what you think I am? Who else beside me talked to you while you were banned? Who else gave you ideas for where else you could look for a new community? Not that I'd post them, but I still have the emails, and I see what I said to you was honest. Do you still have those emails? They were pretty direct for a two-faced guy. Is my other face a face of mercy?
P.S. You're not very observant if you believe I'm here all the time. I'm with a Sag, so if you know anything about astrology that should give you an idea about our relationship. Celebrated 13 months yesterday.
P.P.S. LLL I don't suppose you're up on mortgage industry news lately? Major crisis = less work. IP: Logged |
lotusheartone
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posted September 07, 2007 12:54 AM
Thanks Lalalinda, I am going to bed, so I can
dream of a relationship with my other half...
that will keep me busy, heheGgod Night..LOve to ALL. ... IP: Logged | |
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