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Mirandee
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posted September 27, 2007 02:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mirandee     Edit/Delete Message
The topic of vegetarian lions came up on the Post Your Pictures thread and there was a debate about it. So I googled it and OMG Jay is right - there are vegetarian lions.

This story of Little Tyke is awesome and inspiring. The picture of her here turning her head away from meat and actually wincing at the thought of it is too adorable for words.

Part I:

Vegetarian Lioness: Little Tyke


Little Tyke turning away her head from meat (and wincing).

At four years old, the mature African lioness weighed 352 pounds. Her body stretched 10 feet 4 inches long and could run 40 miles per hour. Her skull, highly adapted to killing and eating prey, possessed short powerful jaws. Normally, African lions eat gnus, zebras, gazelles, impalas, and giraffes. This particular big cat, in her prime and perfect health, chose a more gentle way of life, vegetarian!

A Violent Birth

Georges and Margaret Westbeau, standing outside the thick steel bars of the cage, watched nervously. Inside, a vicious, raging beast baring razor claws and glistening fangs, roared. Flinging herself at the couple, who watched from barely three feet away, her suffering amber eyes defied their presence.
Always, in the past, this lioness destroyed her offspring as soon as they were born. Four times in the last seven years, her powerful jaws had crushed her newborn cubs, furiously throwing them against her cage's bars where they tumbled, lifeless.
Denying the normal instincts of motherhood, what possessed this lioness? Her life mocked its former freedom. She lived a caged animal, taken from the wild and tortured by those who captured her. Did she feel that by destroying her cubs they would be spared the humiliation that she endured?
Suddenly, the newborn cub came flying towards the people anxiously watching. Georges quickly grabbed the cub through the bars before it could be killed. Its right front leg dangled helplessly from its mother's brutal jaws. In the face of such fury the only thing the human could say was, 'You poor little tike'.
The Westbeaus took the three-pound 'Little Tyke' to their Hidden Valley Ranch near Seattle and there it joined the menagerie of other animals including horses, cattle, and chickens. Curious peacocks lined the housetop, kittens peered through a picket fence, and two terriers danced with joy for the new addition to the household.
Drinking bottles of warm milk, Little Tyke began the long road to recovery.

Mysterious reaction

With the advice of experts the Westbeaus began weaning Little Tyke onto solid food at three months. Leaving only a favorite doll, they removed most of her rubber toys, replacing them with bones from freshly slaughtered beef. They carried the small cub to the bones. Unexpectedly, she violently threw up!
Experts told them in no uncertain terms that lions couldn't live without meat. In the wild, lions ate only flesh - eleven pounds a day for an adult female. Alarmed at Little Tyke's strange behavior, they wondered at how they could introduce meat into her diet? In the meantime, they continued feeding Little Tyke baby cereal mixed with milk.
A well meaning friend suggested mixing beef blood with milk, in increasing proportions. Given milk containing ten drops of blood, Little Tyke would have nothing to do with it. They mixed in five drops of blood, and hid that bottle. As she sucked on the plain milk they quickly switched bottles. Again she refused it. In desperation they added one drop of blood to a full bottle of milk, but Little Tyke refused this bottle as well, and they could only stare in amazement.
Another friend suggested putting plain milk in one hand, and milk mixed with hamburger in the palm of the other hand. Little Tyke readily licked the milk from one hand, but when Georges changed hands, she immediately turned away. Sensing her distress, Georges wiped his hands on a nearby towel and picked her up. Hissing in fear and cringing away, she looked sick from the danger-smell of meat on his hand. She only settled down when given a fresh bottle of milk held in washed hands.

Thousand-dollar reward

At nine months old and weighing sixty-five pounds, Little Tyke had the splints and bandages on her leg taken off for the last time. She slowly learned to depend on the healed leg, and mingled with other animals on the ranch.
Since the ranch didn't earn enough income to make ends meet, the Westbeaus ran a small cold storage plant in town. Little Tyke came with them when they went to work and word got around about this vegetarian lioness. When she was four years old, the Westbeaus advertised a thousand dollar reward for anyone who could devise a method tricking Little Tyke into eating meat. Numerous plans met with failure since Little Tyke refused to have anything to do with flesh.

The answer

The caretakers of this gentle animal sought out animal experts, always asking them about diet. Finally, one young visitor set their mind at ease. With serious eyes he turned to them and asked, 'Don't you read your Bible? Read Genisis 1:30, and you will get your answer.' At his first opportunity Georges read in astonishment, 'And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to everything that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.' At that point, after four years, the Westbeaus finally stopped worrying.

To be continued....

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posted September 27, 2007 02:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mirandee     Edit/Delete Message
Part II

Little Tyke's meals

A typical meal consisted of various grains, chosen for their protein, calcium, fats, and roughage. Margaret always cooked a few days' supply ahead of time. At feeding time, a double handful of the cooked grains along with one-half gallon of milk with two eggs, supplied Little Tyke a delicious meal. She had one condition before eating. Her favorite rubber doll had to be right next to her!


For teeth and gums, the Westbeaus supplied rubber boots, since she refused bones. They attracted her to the boots by sprinkling them with perfume. One boot lasted almost a month.
Little Tyke had many close animal friends. Her favorites were Pinky (a kitten), Imp (another kitten), Becky (a lamb) and Baby (a fawn). Her favorite and closest friend, however, was Becky, who preferred Little Tyke's company to any of the other animals.


Little Tyke with Becky

National publicity

You Asked For It, the popular television show hosted by Art Baker, once featured Little Tyke. The producers wanted a scene with chickens, which didn't bother Georges since Little Tyke roamed easily among chickens at Hidden Valley Ranch. When the film crew brought the chickens in, they turned out to be four little day-old chicks!

Slurp of the tongue

Little Tyke's only previous experience with new chicks had been with a hen and her chicks who had wandered onto the lawns around their home on the ranch. Georges thought nothing of it until he saw Little Tyke acting peculiarly, slinking into the house, and looking guilty with lips tightly closed over obviously open jaws. He called 'Tyke! What have you got?' Instantly her mouth opened and a little chick popped out, unharmed. Flapping it's little down-covered wings, it almost flew back to its upset mother. Apparently Little Tyke had affectionately licked the tiny chick, as she was prone to do when, with one huge slurp of the tongue, the little chick had popped into her mouth, and she hadn't known how to fondle it further!
With the amazed camera crew filming, Little Tyke strode over to the chicks, hesitated long enough to lick the chicks carefully and gently with the very tip of her tongue, and moved away with a yawn. A moment later she came back to lie down among the chicks. They immediately made their way into the long silky hair at the base of her great neck where they peered out from the shelter of their great protector.
Another scene saw a new kitten, after an introduction, walk over to Little Tyke's huge foreleg and sit down. Little Tyke crooked one paw around the tiny creature and cuddled it closer.
In front of cameras, Art Baker picked up the Bible and read: 'The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock.'
Mail poured into the producers, making this episode one of the most popular in the show's history.

Little Tyke's death

Unfortunately, while spending three weeks in Hollywood for the show, Little Tyke contracted virus pneumonia, a disease that took her life a few weeks later. The sudden change in climate may have been a contributing factor. She succumbed quietly in her sleep, retiring early after watching television.

Inspiring to this day

Her life is over, but her teachings live on. Of the many lessons she taught, not the least is that love removes fear and savagery. Little Tyke reflected the love and care shown to her after the first few moments of her precarious birth.
Thousands saw photographs of her lying with her lamb friend, Becky, inspiring many to see the world a fresh way: two such diverse natures enjoying each other's love! One eminent attorney kept a huge enlargement of this photograph in his office, and pointed to it as he counciled couples on the verge of divorce.

Scientific dilemma

Science is at a loss when it comes to Little Tyke. Felines are the strictest of carnivores. Without flesh she should have developed blindness, as well as dilated cardiomyopathy (DCM), a degenerative disease that turns heart muscles flabby and limits their ability to pump blood. This is because her diet didn't contain an adequate source of the amino acid, taurine.
Little known in the 1950's, subsequent research at UC Davis in 1976 proved that taurine is an essential nutrient for felines, the lack of which would cause degeneration of the retina. later research implicated inadequate taurine levels in dilated cardiomyopathy as well. For cats with DCM, if the disease has not progressed too far, administering taurine causes an almost miraculous recovery. Formerly, cats lived only a few days to weeks after diagnose.
Taurine is non-existent in natural non-animal sources. It is present in minute amounts in milk and eggs. Little Tyke could have gotten her taurine requirement from milk, if she drank 500 gallons per day, or from eggs, if she ate more than 4000 per day. How did Little Tyke get taurine?

Challenge

Perhaps even more important, why did Little Tyke disown her species' instincts? Little Tyke is a curiosity to the public, aberation to zoologists, anomaly to scientists, and an inspiration to idealists.

Little Tyke wasn't alone. A photograph taken at Allahabad, India in 1936 shows another awesome lioness.
In Autobiography of a Yogi, Paramahansa Yogananda wrote:
...Our group left the peaceful hermitage to greet a near-by swami, Krishnananda, a handsome monk with rosy cheeks and impressive shoulders. Reclining near him was a tame lioness. Succumbing to the monk's spiritual charm - not, I am sure, to his powerful physique! - the jungle animal refuses all meat in favor of rice and milk. The swami has taught the tawny-haired beast to utter "Aum" in a deep, attractive growl - a cat devotee!
These vegetarian lionesses are lion lights. By example, these luminaries invite us as well to discover a less violent world, turning away from slaughterhouses that fed our dogs and cats prior to this age of enlightenment.

Another picture of Little Tyke


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posted September 27, 2007 02:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xodian     Edit/Delete Message
Yes but I do want to reinterirate my points on the story:

Yes she did become a vegitarian but she was reared from absolute near birth after abandonment and violent abuse from her surroundings. So psycological damage played quite a bit role in her rearing.

Furthermore the diet she was fed was humango! I mean 5000 calories per meal consumption?!?! And she would need all those calories to sustain her metabolic rate as she is a carnivore by nature.

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posted September 27, 2007 02:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mirandee     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, Xodian she is a carnivore by nature. That is what is so amazing about her refusing to eat meat. There are many lions who are kept by humans who are fed meat and that is what they want to eat. Zoo animals are fed meat. This lion was somehow different.

I just think her story is precious. How gentle she was.

I think any animal whether it is a lion, tiger, panther, bear or whatever, if raised by humans from cubs is quite different from those same species of animals who grow up in their natural environment. But it does show that animals no matter their species if treated gently will respond to that affection from humans and in turn other animals.

Animals that live with human contact are different from their same species who live in the wild. So you are right. Even house cats who are raised by humans from kittenhood are retarded. They do not grow mentally beyond the kitten stage of development. No one would want an adult cat in their living room who was not mentally retarded because feral cats who are raised without human contact are wild. They bite and attack people.

I was not trying to prove any point by posting this story. I just think it is an awesome and precious story.

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posted September 27, 2007 02:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xodian     Edit/Delete Message
Yes but I don't take much out of anomalic situations. People just end up using that as a lightining rod to distort what the reality of the situation is.

This lioness had a traumatic birth and as such possible psychological barriers may have formed up and repressed her own natural instincts.

But make no mistake about it Mirandee; Wild animals reared in by humans are STILL wild and I can give you a whole lotta stories to prove that.

Here is one:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18618034/

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posted September 27, 2007 03:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yourfriendinspirit     Edit/Delete Message
Mirandee, thank you so much for sharing this heartfelt story!!!
I always knew it was possible, somehow just knew.
This just makes my heart soar

-A little off subject here:
Some are born to be vegitarian, plain and simple.
My mother within weeks of becoming pregnant with me was completely unable to eat meat any longer. It absolutely mystified her as well as her doctor. Again and again she tried... It would not stay down in any way or form. She then began having horrific nightmares regarding the issues of life energy depleting with each ounce of meat absorption. She completely 100% stopped the consumption at this point. I was not introduced to meat products until 3 or 4 years of age. Nope! Was'nt gonna' happen for me either... I'd violently vomit, become extremely ill, and even anger was noticed. Throughout the years of my life off and on I've attempted meat or accidently found some within my food. It just does'nt work for me at all. Trust me, at certain points I wanted to be a meat eater (bacon smells so good) Anyways, we decided this came about for some spiritual purpose of sorts -I am meant to be a vegitarian. My eldest son has violent spiritual dreams only during periods of meat eating. He has now chosen a path of vegitarianism as well. My youngest two and husband however are full fledged flesh eaters, LOL!

Back on the subject... I do absolutely love Lions, this story is very precious and I look forward to sharing it with my family.
Again, thank you!

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posted September 27, 2007 08:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for OMG Jay     Edit/Delete Message

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posted September 27, 2007 08:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SattvicMoon     Edit/Delete Message
Nice story. There various reports from various monastries on Himalayas that Tigers are happy with complete vegetarian food, and they are so tame and violence-less.

But I don't think that even a Tiger so tame with people he/she interacts daily would be a friendly one to a new person.

Even though such incidences prove that compassion and love can do wonders, I do not support going against the natural progression of things. If that is the case, humans should have stuck with vegetarian diet in the first place, but I also know lot of people justifying the meat eating on various factors. So, on the same context - the wild lions and tigers would be considering such vegetarian ones as "out of the line rebels"

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posted September 27, 2007 08:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for OMG Jay     Edit/Delete Message
You mean the lions spoke to you and told you what they feel?

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Ask yourself - look around. Lions and Tigers lives in the forest and if they were natural vegetarians, they would have been, but they are not. The carnivores are naturally the balancing factor.

And I don't want a lion or tiger to talk to me, and if they have talked to you and complained about the meat eating habits, perhaps some psychatrists would be happy about it.

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posted September 27, 2007 09:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for OMG Jay     Edit/Delete Message
Really? Because I have researched other stories of wild lions not wanting to attack prey.

Notice how I said researched? I don't make this stuff up then state it as a fact because it comes out of my mouth....unlike some people


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posted September 27, 2007 09:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SattvicMoon     Edit/Delete Message
See my friend, only humans attack and kill for fun. Wild animals have almost never resorted to killing if not for food.

The problem is when we humans try to implement our thought process which in effect creates imbalance.

If a Lion or Tiger kills a deer (for eg) that is not for fun, but to eat, a matter of survival. And if thta doesn't happen, the deer population would be completely be out of control and destroy the green all around and the result would be a catastrophe for everything and everyone.

It is human greed that is the problem. And by noe means are such "vegetarian" Lion/Tiger/Beer news a bad thing, as I believe it shpows what compassion and love can do.

Also, in most cases, it is the weakest in a herd that gets killed, perhaps they are maim, or ill, and that again a natural progression to contain the genetic strength.

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posted September 27, 2007 11:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mirandee     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with Xodian and Sattvic. This lioness was different for whatever reason she was different. As are the ones that Sattvic talked about and the other lioness mentioned in the story who lived with the monk.

It might have been as Xodian said, her violent birth or it might have been as yourfriendinspirit said, some people and some animals are just born to be vegetarians.

Little Tyke still baffles the experts because she does go against the natural order of things. And yes, even lions and tiger etc. that are raised in captivity by humans are still wild animals. As Sattvic said, they may be gentle with the humans they are with on a daily basis but would most likely attack a stranger. But isn't that often the case with dogs too?

Animals, even pet dogs, are unpredictable. Especially those animals such as lions who by nature belong in the wild.

Not long ago (can't remember the name of the two men in the Vegas act) one of men was mauled and nearly killed on stage during his act by a lion who he raised, lived with and truly loved.

I too am against taking animals out of their natural environment. There was a panther in my area sighted by myself and my daughter and in the neighboring city of Rochester Hills. Someone obviously had owned this panther and he either got out or he was turned loose because he was getting too big and too expensive to feed. That endangers other pets and people. Crocodiles have been found in lakes in Michigan and there was a lion loose in the area too a few years ago. Happens everywhere.

Lions are carnivores by nature. Little Tyke and other lions who don't eat meat and are repelled by it are different and special. Perhaps it is as the story said, they are lights for humanity and this story of Little Tyke certainly is spiritually inspiring.

Even zoo lions and other lions raised in captivity normally do eat meat. They are fed whole chickens and large quantities of raw steaks. They would die if they did not have their natural diet. That is what makes Little Tyke so unique and special. She not only thrived on her vegetarian diet she did so without the quantities of taurine her body needed to prevent blindness and death. How did she get the taurine? is still the baffling question.

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posted September 27, 2007 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrankyCap     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with everything you just said Mirandee. This was a lovely story though...brought tears to my eyes! She was special, and unique indeed. It's a nice thought, but she will never be the norm, and there's a reason for that. Things are the way they are for a reason. It isn't right for us to mess with nature, but these special stories do warm the heart.

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posted September 27, 2007 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mirandee     Edit/Delete Message
I was reading an article just last week that stated the lion population has been reduced by 50% since the 1980's due to being hunted and killed by humans.

Why do some people feel they have to kill these beautiful animals?

I love felines. I think they are the most beautiful creatures created. When we go to the zoo the lions and tigers fascinate me and I love just watching them. They have the same mannerisms on the most part as domestic house cats.

But I hate seeing them pinned up. Hate seeing the gorillas and polar bears and all the animals pinned up. The zoo depresses me for that reason.

edited: I agree, Cranky Cap. We shouldn't mess with the natural order of things. And like it or not, there is a food chain in nature.

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I think I may have seen that article Mirandee. I know I read one on MSN last week that was talking about Gorillas. It was so upsetting. Not only are the Gorillas still being killed at the hands of man, but now they're suffering from Ecoli.

I wish a wealthy eccentric would just buy an island for the sole purpose of rising the populations of endangered species. Someplace where humans were strictly forbidden. I can't imagine a world without all of these beautiful creatures in it.

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posted September 27, 2007 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xodian     Edit/Delete Message
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Really? Because I have researched other stories of wild lions not wanting to attack prey.

Proof? Please do present this research.

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posted September 27, 2007 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for OMG Jay     Edit/Delete Message
Well Xodian. Like I have told other people many times..........you are sitting on your computer right now and you are on it 24/7. Even at 3am you're on here. Since you don't have a social life off your computer.


Go research it yourself. Lazy annoying little Libra. The information is out there.

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posted September 27, 2007 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xodian     Edit/Delete Message
*Smirks.* I was wondering when you would fall to the same old rant that you usually spew out.

12 hour night shift, coupled with about another 6-7 hour university life. Add in maybe another 4-5 hours of social time with loved ones and friends.

Right now I am at my University's Library typing up on my laptop and actually chuckling away with my friends as to why people deliberately choose to disillusion themselves about what others do.

Now OMG; This is your what... 15th, 16th reincarnation of this place? One can only picture the warped mindset of a person who comes back time after time only to be banned again.

And I can assure you, your behavior is well under way to earn you another banning.

And I did ran searches online right now and all I have gotten is references linking back to this one story about little Tyke; Nothing more.

Which only tells me that this is only an isolated situation and Lions in general ARE regular carnivores.

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posted September 27, 2007 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xodian     Edit/Delete Message
Though sorry about being a bit too nosey curiously enough, my friends would like to know what YOU are doing here all this time? More specifically they wanna know what you actually do for a living and if you by any chance have a solid social life? You know... since you are so adamant in questioning others about theirs.

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posted September 27, 2007 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mirandee     Edit/Delete Message
Please, let's try to discuss this without personal attacks on people's character and any name calling.

This is a nice story. Why ruin it with all that? Why can't we just respect the viewpoints of others even if we may not share the same viewpoint?

I don't entirely share OMG Jay's viewpoint on nature as it pertains to wild animals but I do respect and admire her compassion and love for animals and her desire to help them.

However, it is also compassion and love for animals on the part of Xodian, Sattvic and others who want to leave nature as it is designed to be and who accept that animals are doing what nature designed them to do. Their compassion is directed in protecting animals to live their lives as they instinctively are created to live it in the environments in which they belong, undisturbed by the interference of humankind. That is also the position that I hold on this issue.

In many respects, and for whatever reason, Little Tyke is not the norm. She is in many respects an aberration of nature. Such as albino animals are. Even nature is not perfect. It has it's opposites and it's aberrations.

Little Tyke was such a sweet, precious and inspiring aberration of nature though and her story is so very touching.

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posted September 27, 2007 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
It's an interesting story.

I feel that this is only one of many dimensions. I feel that "we don't think with our minds- we think for our minds" and there is a power which permeates all of creation, both are connected. Science and spirit are really one. There is a lot of research about how our thoughts and emotions are responsible for programming our DNA.

On the subject of animals, I would like to see the day when no animal will be kept in a cage and they will all be free in their own natural habitats.

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Before I sink, into the big sleep
I want to hear, I want to hear
The scream of the butterfly
Come back, baby, back into my arm
Were gettin tired of hangin around
Waitin around with our heads to the ground
I hear a very gentle sound, very near yet very far
Very soft, yeah, very clear, come today, come today

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posted September 27, 2007 07:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for goatgirl     Edit/Delete Message
Me too LTT. I really appreciate your gentle spirit.

To me it seems that would require a great deal less human beings in non-natural settings ie Western Civilization and more of them in their natural habitat which would be an indiginous living situation, a great reduction in the population of human beings, and a ceasing of the destruction of the other animals habitats.

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The good life, as I conceive it, is a happy life. I do not mean that if you are good you will be happy - I mean that if you are happy you will be good. ~ Bertrand Russell

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Wow, look at that picture of Little Tyke and the lamb, it is just like the pic that is displayed on Lindaland.

What a powerful picture.

Little Tyke is a wonderfully inspiring story. We have many lessons to learn from it.

Thankyou for sharing this Mirandee.

I'm curious as to whether the video of Little Tyke on You Asked For It is available on you tube, so that is what I am searching for right now.

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Animals, in many ways, are far more advanced than we are and we often don't give credit to what they are capable of, or how they feel.

Powerful expressions of love and loyalty, and sense of smell, sight and hearing trump anything we humans are capable of. Not to mention the physical capabilities of strength, speed and agility.

With that said, I do not doubt that some animals, who typically eat meat, have advanced to the point where they simply don't want it. Just like some animals are attracted to fellow animals of the same gender.

So some animals only desire a vegetarian diet, who the hell are we to place limits on what ANY animal is capable of? Maybe we should try to figure ourselves out first! Because we've got a lot correct, learn and figure out. and A LOT to learn from animals as well.

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