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Topic: lotusheartone - I adore you!
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SattvicMoon
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posted September 29, 2007 08:46 AM
 
Dear lotusheartone,All said and done, I guess I need to adore your strength and bravery to show the true identity of who you are! I just can never match with your brave effort of being true to the self! Howmuch ever we hide our true character, I have heard that it comes out one day or the other for everyone to see and ascertain, but luckily I am lucky to have hidden behind my false persona I have - thanks to the devil that I am. Seeing you at ease with your own true character, I am truly amazed, and believe I have sign off saying that you have won in establishing your true identity in LindaLand, and otherwise as well! Cheers and thanks for the insightful messages you have shared with me (and LindaLand as well) in the past week or so! You go girl! I appreciate your honesty with sharing your true mental balance and truthful words!
LOve and REverEnce to all........ who deserves!
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juniperb
Knowflake Posts: 6830
From: Blue Star Kachina
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted September 29, 2007 09:25 AM
God, grant me the SerenityTo accept the things I cannot change... Courage to change the things I can, And Wisdom to know the difference.
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What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world is immortal"~ - George Eliot IP: Logged |
NAM
Knowflake Posts: 1995
From: Sunny place.
Registered: Jan 2007
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posted September 29, 2007 09:52 AM
Ok, you guys, this is way too much!!I don't see why trying to fight someone that is just trying to do good.
Everyone here has their own beleives and nobody is taking another's person point of view as the total truth of anything because to be able to beleive in such a way we humans have to have "proof"... but that doesn't mean that we have to engage in litte battles within ourselves; that is like defeading the point of why we are here and growing as a person. So, will all of you just please chill and have respect for each other, maybe even a hug and a kiss, and let's just keep searching.
This little fights are very much a waste of energy that can be used somewhere else. 
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ListensToTrees
Knowflake Posts: 3844
From: Infinity
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted September 29, 2007 10:03 AM
She just needs help to see things clearly again. I don't know why she is as angry as she is, but she needs to face up to her own problems instead of erupting like this at people, this holier than thou mentality.WE all have our faults, but if she only thinks it is everyone else and refuses to face up to her own, what hope is there?     We're all 'Lost In Translation'.  ------------------
It would be nice to evolve some sort of telethapy of the heart; empathy. A feeling, knowing inside how we are all interconnected. Empathy/ love would be a a law in itself. IP: Logged |
NAM
Knowflake Posts: 1995
From: Sunny place.
Registered: Jan 2007
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posted September 29, 2007 10:11 AM
No she feels she has been betrayed by some people here, I just don't know why; but she obviously thinks it is a great big deal because as I was reading the other threads that got closed she really don't give a f*ck anymore.
I think several people need to look within themselves and say they are sorry, probably all of the ones involved in this.ok, I am wasting enough time right now I need to get back to my class...
But hopefully when I get back here I'll find a more peaceful setting because of "their" own choice and not because they are deleting threads or they are being banned.
I don't want to have to leave too because of these actions, both s*ck in my book.(deletion of threads and banning people) Sh*t, if we can not live together here, how can you expect for the rest of the world to do so? IP: Logged |
ListensToTrees
Knowflake Posts: 3844
From: Infinity
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted September 29, 2007 10:13 AM
I know.....Well, I don't have the time to spend 24/7 here, reading every single thing that goes on, but it all sounds like a waste of Time to me.... Perhaps I shouldn't have got involved..... I can't be 'all-seeing'! I just don't like to see people suffering! ------------------
It would be nice to evolve some sort of telethapy of the heart; empathy. A feeling, knowing inside how we are all interconnected. Empathy/ love would be a a law in itself. IP: Logged |
ListensToTrees
Knowflake Posts: 3844
From: Infinity
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted September 29, 2007 10:19 AM
The problem is, one we start getting involved, judgments get made....we unwittingly start to take sides Whose side is God on? No-body's. To understand all is to forgive all I hereby withdraw myself from any involvement in any of this. If people want support or a shoulder to cry on, it's probably best done in confidentiality and not within these circus settings...... ------------------
It would be nice to evolve some sort of telethapy of the heart; empathy. A feeling, knowing inside how we are all interconnected. Empathy/ love would be a a law in itself. IP: Logged |
ListensToTrees
Knowflake Posts: 3844
From: Infinity
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted September 29, 2007 10:29 AM
I said:
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She just needs help to see things clearly again. I don't know why she is as angry as she is, but she needs to face up to her own problems instead of erupting like this at people, this holier than thou mentality.
I suppose the same can be said for several people here! Ego is a terrible, dangerously seductive thing! I think of the scene of Galadriel in Lord Of The Rings, where Frodo offers her the ring, and for a moment he sees a demonified vision of her..... Well....That's what our ego does, ladies and gentleman! Power is the most seductive thing in the world too. Deep down, we'd all like to feel big and powerful and loved by everyone. But it's all transient.  IP: Logged |
fayte.m
Knowflake Posts: 9809
From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat. fayte1954@hotmail.com
Registered: Mar 2005
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posted September 29, 2007 10:33 AM
Lotus is freaking out but some of what she is saying is true. She has been betrayed by some here at LL but not all who she thinks. But once one is betrayed by too many it becomes hard to know who to trust after awhile. Then folks see her wildly lashing out in desperation and call her names and judge her without realizing the cruelties that were inflicted on her by some folks who pretended and are pretending to be all innocent of hurting her. I do not agree with how she is lashing out but I know why she is doing so and few folks could keep their cool under such circumstances. I understand. I will say this however....
Zala  has NEVER betrayed anyone! From there assume as you all wish.
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~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
Everything changes.
Fear not the changes.
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SattvicMoon
Knowflake Posts: 2282
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Registered: May 2007
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posted September 29, 2007 10:41 AM
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She has been betrayed by some her at LL
You could be right fayte, but what has the members of LindaLand got to do with her being betrayed by someone? Keep those issues out of the forum. LindaLand as a community is different from any individual members here. Heated debates are quite common, I can see it myself, but heated debate is different from calling names, and using abusive language. IP: Logged |
taurus/gemini cusp
Knowflake Posts: 647
From: London, England
Registered: Sep 2006
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posted September 29, 2007 10:43 AM
No offense, but Lotus is a 41 year old woman who acts out like a vindictive, spoiled teenager whenever she feels wronged. Unfortunately, taking into account her age, it actually makes her a very, very creepy person.I'm sure that there has been many a time that people have treated her unfairly, but her constant mood swinging between abusive insults and sugary sweetness, shows a mentally unhinged human being, in my mind. She appears not able to stop with her destructive behaviour until she gets what she wishes, which is either an apology from her alleged "attackers" or just a negative reaction, in which case she is simply a troll and should be banned. If it is indeed an apology she seeks, then I suggest she lets it go, because there is no way of forcing an apology out of someone who is not sorry - especially not over a computer screen!!! There are a few people from my lifetime that I have thought owed me an apology in the past but I have had let it go because you don't always get what you want in this life - life isn't always fair. And I'm only 23 and I know that. If Lotus continues with her periodic outbursts, then even if she did formerly have a valid point, it will never be taken into account because of the abusive nature of her posts. Plus, no one's forcing her to stay here and post around people she doesn't like. I'll probably get lynched for this, but I don't care - I'm tired of people making drama out of their own selfishness and ruining the experience of LL for others. I'm sorry but I don't buy people making excuses for Lotus - she's an adult and it's time to start behaving like one. IP: Logged |
ListensToTrees
Knowflake Posts: 3844
From: Infinity
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted September 29, 2007 10:59 AM
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even if she did formerly have a valid point, it will never be taken into account because of the abusive nature of her posts
That much is agreed. Negative feelings will not help anyone. If we feel we need to offer constructive criticism, it should be approached with as much tact and gentility as possible, though it can be quite difficult not to be misunderstood, as has been shown. "Only love will 'kill' the demon". "You don't fight for peace. You peace for peace". "An eye for an eye and the whole world will go blind". IP: Logged |
fayte.m
Knowflake Posts: 9809
From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat. fayte1954@hotmail.com
Registered: Mar 2005
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posted September 29, 2007 11:04 AM
SattvicMoon & taurus/gemini cusp
You both make valid points.
I simply know the backstory and can see why she is acting so. I do not condone her name calling and violent outbursts but I know why she does it and does not care anymore.
I just wish everyone would just drop it already.I hope folks will realize the guilty parties will never admit to the things they have done, and because it happens mostly off LL...the abused will come off looking paranoid and combative, and if the real reasons they are being attacked are brought up...the guilty deny it or delete it if they have the power. Lotus, by fighting you cause folks to see you
as the attacker. You cannot fight those who have betrayed you.
They are too experienced at the game.
And it makes you paranoid, and justly so...
Who can be trusted? Who cannot? I have received many letters from folks who are quite disgusted with the fights at LL.
Many folks are afraid to post and are considering leaving LL. Some have left or post rarely these days.
And Lotus is NOT the person they fear getting attacked by.....
in fact a few Lotus and Silverstone have pointed out are the ones many others fear and want to avoid. ------------------
"Heaven doesn't want me and Hell is afraid I'll take over and start a rehab for the damned!"
~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
Everything changes.
Fear not the changes.
"My body is physically disabled, but I am not my body nor am I its disabilities!"
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ListensToTrees
Knowflake Posts: 3844
From: Infinity
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted September 29, 2007 11:08 AM
quote:
Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
Everything changes.
Fear not the changes
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It would be nice to evolve some sort of telethapy of the heart; empathy. A feeling, knowing inside how we are all interconnected. Empathy/ love would be a a law in itself. IP: Logged |
fayte.m
Knowflake Posts: 9809
From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat. fayte1954@hotmail.com
Registered: Mar 2005
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posted September 29, 2007 11:09 AM
ListensToTrees{{{hugs}}}------------------
"Heaven doesn't want me and Hell is afraid I'll take over and start a rehab for the damned!"
~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
Everything changes.
Fear not the changes.
"My body is physically disabled, but I am not my body nor am I its disabilities!"
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taurus/gemini cusp
Knowflake Posts: 647
From: London, England
Registered: Sep 2006
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posted September 29, 2007 11:16 AM
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the abused will come off looking paranoid and combative
This is an excellent point Fayte and something we have to watch out for..... IP: Logged |
fayte.m
Knowflake Posts: 9809
From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat. fayte1954@hotmail.com
Registered: Mar 2005
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posted September 29, 2007 11:34 AM
taurus/gemini cusp{{{hugs}}}
I just wish the slates could be wiped clean and all could start over, however trust has been severely broken and in some cases will never be re-established.
The truly abused will always wonder when the abusers will take offense where non is intended and the wars start again.
Simply disagreeing has been taken as personal attacks.
And folks we would have never believed could actually make personal attacks and drag their private anger to LL have instead done just that and instead of taking it privately.
Alot of hurts and mis-communications and I can see no way to fix it.
We can all start over....
But how? Many will still have that nagging feeling of waiting for the next shoe to drop and feel they must walk on eggshells and broken glass?
I just do not know anymore.
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"Heaven doesn't want me and Hell is afraid I'll take over and start a rehab for the damned!"
~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
Everything changes.
Fear not the changes.
"My body is physically disabled, but I am not my body nor am I its disabilities!"
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OMG Jay
Knowflake Posts: 360
From:
Registered: Sep 2007
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posted September 29, 2007 12:14 PM
I doubt anyone can know how Lotus really is here. That's pretty sad to write 3 paragraphs on how she is when you have never even met her. Get a life people seriously. It's the damn internet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IP: Logged |
taurus/gemini cusp
Knowflake Posts: 647
From: London, England
Registered: Sep 2006
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posted September 29, 2007 12:38 PM
Fayte (((Hugs)) - I wish the slate could be wiped clean as well. Maybe we should all, unregister and then re-register with new user names as a way of starting afresh?! quote:
I doubt anyone can know how Lotus really is here.That's pretty sad to write 3 paragraphs on how she is when you have never even met her. Get a life people seriously. It's the damn internet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I do see your point. However, maybe you haven't noticed Lotus' repeat patterns of behaviour over the past few months/years, that have caused myself and I'm sure a few others to think this way. Perhaps this is because you've only been an LL member for a few short weeks. Unless of course, there's something you want to tell us....? IP: Logged |
NAM
Knowflake Posts: 1995
From: Sunny place.
Registered: Jan 2007
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posted September 29, 2007 12:55 PM
I haven't been here for as long as some of you but I also had exchanged a couple words before with Lotus and they were not so nice, but we overcome that by talking and making some sense of where we stood...I truely think that the people involved in this situation just need to talk it out and quit acting so defensive, I mean, what can be so important to hold grudges this way?
There are threads here that talk about prophecies where we are all going to be destroyed and horrible things will happen to the planet but yet simple stuff like keeping a friendship can not be achieved??????
Isn't this telling you something? and this goes to all of the parties involved in this. ok, back to my course and my test...agh! IP: Logged |
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