posted February 20, 2008 03:07 PM         

This is the condensed, popular version of the monumental underground classic Forbidden Archeology... Over the past two centuries, researchers have found bones and artifacts showing that people existed on earth millions of years ago. Deploying an unexpectedly great number of suppressed but convincing facts, Cremo and Thompson challenge readers to rethink their understanding of human origins, identity and destiny.

posted February 20, 2008 03:08 PM         

WHERE DID WE COME FROM?

Drawing upon a wealth of research into archeology, genetics, reincarnation memories, out-of-body experiences, parapsychology, cross cultural cosmology, and the search for extraterrestrial intelligence, Cremo provides a refreshing perspective on human origins according to the ancient philosophy of India. In their controversial bestseller Forbidden Archeology, Michael A. Cremo and Richard L. Thompson documented evidence showing that humans have existed on earth for hundreds of millions of years. Such anomalous evidence, contradicting Darwinian evolution, catalyzed a global inquiry: If we did not evolve from apes then where did we come from? Human Devolution is Michael A. Cremo's definitive answer to that question: We did not evolve up from matter; instead we devolved, or came down, from the real of pure consciousness, spirit. Basing his response on modern science and the world's great wisdom traditions, including the Vedic philosophy of ancient India, Cremo proposes that before we ask the question, Where did human beings come from? we should first contemplate, What is a human being? For much of the twentieth century, most scientists assumed that a human being is simply a combination of ordinary physical elements. In Human Devolution, Cremo says it is more reasonable to assume that a human being is a combination of three distinct substances: mind, matter, and consciousness (or spirit). He shows how solid scientific evidence for a subtle mind element and a conscious self that can exist apart from the body have been systematically eliminated from mainstream science by a process of knowledge filtration. Asserting that humans are a combination of matter, mind, and consciousness, Cremo pilots a cosmic tour through incredible enigmas of time and space, ranging from Precambrian microfossils to black holes to superhuman beings, thus revealing the cosmos itself to be divided into corresponding regions dominated by ordinary matter, the subtle mind element, and pure consciousness. Human Devolution illustrates how the self originally exists on the level of pure consciousness, in harmony with the personal source of all conscious beings. When a conscious self relinquishes its connection with the source of all conscious beings, it becomes covered by the lower energies of mind and matter. Cremo calls this devolution. But devolution can be reversed, and consciousness can be restored to its original pure state by a process of spiritual evolution. The Controversy Continues: The highly anticipated sequel to the controversial best-seller Forbidden Archeology has arrived. Darwin Debunked by best-selling author of Forbidden Archeology (20,000 copies sold) Thoroughly researched work (includes an extensive 36 page bibliography and 28 page index). For the first time the ancient Vedic or Hindu version of the origins of man are presented.

About the Author
Michael Cremo is on the cutting edge of science and culture issues. In the course of a few month's time he might be found on pilgrimage to sacred sites in India, appearing on a national television show, lecturing at a mainstream science conference, or speaking to an alternative science gathering. As he crosses disciplinary and cultural boundaries, he presents to his various audiences a compelling case for negotiating a new consensus on the nature of reality.

posted February 20, 2008 08:48 PM         

“...‘thought form’ vibrations
and their immeasurable power over Nature
are not merely theory
their effect has been observed and proven”

“where ? and when ? and how ?
oh, please answer me – I need to know now !”

“the electromagnetic factors
of each Earthling’s auric emanations – or aura
are very similar to
the electro-magnetic characteristics
of the Solar System in which you live

and this means that human auric light
or electromagnetic fields
are entirely capable of traveling outward
and inter-acting with similar fields
in the environment
as tuning forks respond to one another”

“and could this, then, inter-act
with all the factors underlying earthquakes, floods
pole reversal, cobalt bomb effects – and such?”

“yes..the proper projection of human auras
could so react with all geological activities
including those behind climatic change
which, of course, is why your American Indians
successfully performed their rain dances”

“how would this apply to an earthquake prone area
such as the San Andreas fault
and the similar fault that lies beneath Manhattan?”

“simply by the ‘thought form’ vibrations
causing major changes
in the temperatures and air pressures
surrounding and permeating
any earthquake-prone land area, you see”

“but ..this is all theory you are telling me
and you promised to give me proof of such magic”

“research by a number of scientists
related to the prehistoric populations
of the American Southwest
have proven that, when the activities
of the people turned to negative vibrations
such as open warfare
and these actions became therefore
out of harmony
with the surrounding environment, then

the rainfall needed for their very survival
gradually dropped to such low level
that these Earthlings were forced to move away
and to migrate elsewhere

conversely, in close neighboring areas
where the people did not engage in warfare
or killing each other – or their animal friends
and did not engage in the abusing of sexual power
and who were, therefore
in complete harmony with their environment

in these close neighboring areas..
the rainfall needed also for their very survival
remained high
throughout the same period of time
allowing them to remain in their homeland
safely..happily..and productively

~Linda Goodman, Gooberz

posted February 22, 2008 11:53 AM         

about darwinism -- i think it's an error to cast the issue as darwin vs. religious view of creation only. it's obvious from the evidence of the research that darwinism is erroneous, even if the research has a religious bent. there is an alternative answer that goes beyond darwinism and religion altogether. this, i think, is to what Linda Goodman was referring.

posted February 22, 2008 01:25 PM         

Bird Flu And Social Darwinism
A quick refresher course

April 7 2006

Britain again became a victim of bird flu paranoia today after a dead swan in Scotland tested positive for the H5N1 strain of bird flu. Since Sky News and BBC are reveling in the seriousness of all this it's pertinent and timely to recap on the real agenda behind bird flu.

Both the British and US governments have created policies of quarantine and internment procedures which they need to indoctrinate Joe public into going along with. In the first stage, limited biological panics will be metered upon the public (in Britain through Porton Down, the same people who brought you Foot and Mouth) in order to train them into producing the desired response. Those who are taken to temporary relief centers for their own safety will be treated kindly and released swiftly, putting to shame the outlandish protests of civil liberties advocates and Internet conspiracy theorists.

This is in preparation for the more grandiose biological releases, those advocated by people like Dr. Eric Pianka, that will kill millions through weaponized airborne ebola or smallpox. People will now have learned that militarized police, curfews and internment facilities bring safety and then will happily spend their time in the camps working to help recover the massive damage to the economy, safe in the knowledge that they will soon be free to leave.

"If we had an outbreak somewhere in the United States, do we not then quarantine that part of the country, and how do you then enforce a quarantine? When -- it's one thing to shut down airplanes; it's another thing to prevent people from coming in to get exposed to the avian flu. And who best to be able to effect a quarantine? One option is the use of a military that's able to plan and move." President Bush, October 4th 2005.

The Bush cabinet was on Cipro, the anthrax fighting antibiotic, on the day of September 11, weeks before the first anthrax attack took place.

The people who will profit financially from a bird flu outbreak are Donald Rumsfeld and top Bilderberg members like Etienne F. Davignon.

Bird flu is one more tool in the arsenal of Globalist Malthusian social Darwinists who believe it is their destiny to act as guardians to mother earth against the 'plague' of humanity and that brutal methods of population control are the only way to realize a new world order.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2006/070406birdflu.htm

posted February 22, 2008 01:45 PM         

Fellow professors and scientists applause and roar approval at elite's twisted and genocidal population control agenda

April 3 2006

A top scientist gave a speech to the Texas Academy of Science last month in which he advocated the need to exterminate 90% of the population through the airborne ebola virus. Dr. Eric R. Pianka's chilling comments, and their enthusiastic reception again underscore the elite's agenda to enact horrifying measures of population control.

Pianka's speech was ordered to be kept off the record before it began as cameras were turned away and hundreds of students, scientists and professors sat in attendance.

Saying the public was not ready to hear the information presented, Pianka began by exclaiming, “We're no better than bacteria!”, as he jumped into a doomsday malthusian rant about overpopulation destroying the earth.

Standing in front of a slide of human skulls, Pianka gleefully advocated airborne ebola as his preferred method of exterminating the necessary 90% of humans, choosing it over AIDS because of its faster kill period. Ebola victims suffer the most tortuous deaths imaginable as the virus kills by liquefying the internal organs. The body literally dissolves as the victim writhes in pain bleeding from every orifice.

Pianka then cited the Peak Oil fraud as another reason to initiate global genocide. “And the fossil fuels are running out,” he said, “so I think we may have to cut back to two billion, which would be about one-third as many people.”

Later, the scientist welcomed the potential devastation of bird flu and spoke glowingly of China's enforced one child policy, before zestfully commenting, “We need to sterilize everybody on the Earth.”

At the end of Pianka's speech the audience erupted not to a chorus of boos and hisses but to a raucous reception of applause and cheers as audience members clammered to get close to the scientist to ask him follow up questions. Pianka was later presented with a distinguished scientist award by the Academy. Pianka is no crackpot. He has given lectures to prestigious universities worldwide.

One horrified observer was able to make notes on the speech and our gratitude goes to Forrest M. Mims for bringing this sickening display to the attention of the world.

Throughout history elites have invented justification for barbaric practices as a cover for their true agenda of absolute power and control over populations. Up until the 19th century, the transatlantic slave trade was justified by saying that the practice was biblical and therefore morally redeemable in nature, despite the fact that no such bible passage exists.

From 1932 until 1972, the Tuskegee Study Group (pictured below) deliberately infected poor black communities in Alabama with syphilis without their consent and withheld treatment as the diseased rampaged through the town killing families.

In 1951 the Israeli government used US government provided technology to irradiate 100,000 Jewish children in a mass atomic experiment with an entire generation of Sephardi youths used as guinea pigs. 6,000 died immediately after the experiments and the rest suffered for the rest of their lives with debilitating illnesses and cancer.

Pianka's doomsday warning of the population bomb, for which Mims claims he presented no evidence whatsoever, is complete pseudo-science. Populations in developed countries are declining and only in third world countries is it expanding dramatically. Industrialization itself levels out population trends and even despite this world population models routinely show that the earth's population will level out at 9 billion in 2050 and slowly decline after that. "The population of the most developed countries will remain virtually unchanged at 1.2 billion until 2050," states a United Nations report. Conservation International's own study revealed that 46% of the earth's surface was an untouched wilderness, that is land areas not including sea. It is commonly accepted that the entire world population could all fit into the state of Texas and each have an acre of their own land.

Think about the magnitude of Pianka's statements. He wants to kill nine out of every ten members of your family and he wants to kill them in one of the most painful and agonizing ways imaginable.

If Pianka, or 'The Lizard Man' as he likes to be called, is so vehement in the necessity of culling the human population will he step forward to be the first one in line? Will he sacrifice his children for the so-called greater good of the planet? We somehow doubt it.

Will the students who so enthusiastically greeted his ideas go home and kill themselves for the cause if it is so righteous?

It was noted how Pianka presented his argument with the kind of glee that you would see in a demented serial killer before dispatching his victim. This is an attitude we have encountered again and again. To discuss killing 90% of the world's population via a horrific plague is sick enough within itself but you would at least expect its advocates to be serious and sober in their approach to the subject. The opposite seems to be the case, where the subject is aired in a context of lighthearted lip-smacking and hand-rubbing as if the individual was about to sink his teeth into a T-bone steak.

This window gives us a clear view of exactly why these deranged ******** encompass this ideology. They love death and their lives are motivated by dark influences very different to you or I.

Pianka's approval of how the Chinese police state effectively controlled their population tells us that this rhetoric is just the glue that holds together the true agenda of the elite. A staged bio-attack blamed on terrorists could be the perfect cover for enacting the program of population reduction and the usurpation of our remaining freedoms.

In the 21st century the elite are concerned that from over 6 billion people might spring a new elite to challenge their stranglehold on the reigns of power. This is one reason for desire to cull the population down to a manageable level. Another is control over the behavior of the existing serfs and herding them like cattle into the slaughter house.

As we have documented, members of the elite are quite open in their feverish lust to commit mass murder and ethnic cleansing. In the foreword to his biography If I Were An Animal, Prince Philip wrote, "In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, in order to contribute something to solve overpopulation."

National Security Memo 200, dated April 24, 1974, and titled "Implications of world wide population growth for U.S. security & overseas interests," says:

"Dr. Henry Kissinger proposed in his memorandum to the NSC that "depopulation should be the highest priority of U.S. foreign policy towards the Third World." He quoted reasons of national security, and because `(t)he U.S. economy will require large and increasing amounts of minerals from abroad, especially from less-developed countries ... Wherever a lessening of population can increase the prospects for such stability, population policy becomes relevant to resources, supplies and to the economic interests of U.S."

Kissinger prepared a depopulation manifesto for President Jimmy Carter called 'Global 2000' which detailed using food as a weapon to depopulate the third world.

One of the most chilling admissions of deadly intent came from the lips of the late Jacques Cousteau, the sainted environmental icon. In an interview with the UNESCO Courier for November 1991 the famed oceanographer said:

"The damage people cause to the planet is a function of demographics — it is equal to the degree of development. One American burdens the earth much more than twenty Bangaladeshes. The damage is directly linked to consumption. Our society is turning toward more and needless consumption. It is a vicious circle that I compare to cancer...."

"This is a terrible thing to say. In order to stabilize world population, we must eliminate 350,000 people per day. It is a horrible thing to say, but it’s just as bad not to say it."

The Melbourne Age reported on recently uncovered documents detailing Nobel Peace Prize winning microbiologist Sir Macfarlane Burnet's plan to help the Australian government develop biological weapons for use against Indonesia and other "overpopulated" countries of South-East Asia.

Pianka's ideology is in the same league as Hitler, Pol Pot, and the rest of history's despots who advocated mass extermination and had the temerity to dress it up in a 'noble' Straussian facade. We demand that he be investigated for openly calling for mass murder and in the meantime we encourage everyone to click here and e mail Pianka, enabling him to receive your feedback about his wish that you and your entire family die.

posted February 22, 2008 01:59 PM         

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Meat eating races have always been warlike and aggressive, all through history, whereas non-meat eating races have been passive and peaceful. As for hunting, I rarely enter into discussions with hunters, being an Aries. Too many mars fireworks might explode. The excuse many hunters give to justify murdering wildlife is that they are “clearing out the excess population – otherwise there wouldn’t be enough food, and the animals die anyway” makes me feel that their thought patterns are only a fraction removed from finding murder a likewise “practical and humane” way to “clear out” overpopulated areas of China and India and America’s slums. In a worldwide sense, mankind (and here the chauvinistic term is appropriate) has always found war to be an “ideal” solution to “clear out” population. Nature herself is fully capable of solving her own problems, without man’s “helpfulness,” comprised of murder and killing.

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posted February 22, 2008 02:14 PM         

I would like to see the abolishing of all factory farms and such.

I would like all animals to be free and never kept in a cage, but it will take time to achieve this and resolve the problems of where they would go. But we could start by stopping the breeding of them in captivity.

Even domestic animals such as dogs would be better off, IMO, in their own natural environments, as they have such different needs to humans and a different way of communicating; it is unfair that people should mis-treat them simply because they do not understand what, for example, the dog whisperer does about them.

The golden rule in life is simply this:

Treat others as you would have them treat you.

posted February 22, 2008 02:34 PM         

this scientist's speculations have to do with getting enough nutrients.

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Milton said that her theories do not reflect on today's vegetarian diets, which can be completely adequate, given modern knowledge of nutrition.

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other meat-eating animals' brains have not "evolved" into the sophisticated brains that humans have.

nor do animals who thrive, require a "modern knowledge" of nutrition.

these are just speculations. she mentions "weaned infants" needing a more dense nutrient supply. modern civilizations are the ones who "wean" infants. in most "undeveloped" countries children are allowed to nurse, to receive the nutrients they need, from their mothers, as long as needed. this is natural. early civilizations did not force children to wean.

posted February 22, 2008 03:17 PM         

A good example is the well known scientist at the Texas Academy of Science, Dr. Eric Pianka, in the article above, who advocates the murder of 90% of the human population via the ebola virus. if you will note, he was enthusiastically applauded by other scientists and students at the university for these ideas.

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Pianka was later presented with a distinguished scientist award by the Academy. Pianka is no crackpot. He has given lectures to prestigious universities worldwide.

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posted February 22, 2008 03:52 PM         

I'm sorry, I didn't wish to offend.

posted February 22, 2008 04:25 PM         

I don't know if Darwin is right, nor do I particularly care. If Darwin didn't exist would these studies have revealed something different? Would there not have been another to suggest evolution in a manner similar to Darwin? Are the people who do these studies regularly lobbied and bought out in order to be pro-meat, or are the findings just what they are: observations that lack an agenda?

posted February 22, 2008 04:41 PM         

the posts here are in tandem with Linda Goodman's writings, posted at the beginning of this thread ~

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It’s worth noting that the percentage of carnivorous opposed to vegetarian fish closely matches the current percentage of carnivorous opposed to vegetarian humans. There are other meaningful reflections between animal and human habits, and the former imitate the latter, not the other way around…There are many examples in the fish and animal world proving that the carnivorous aspect of the “food chain,” so holy to biologists, is not a necessity for healthy survival. Jungle animals who eat the flesh of other animals? Regardless of what you learned in school about Darwin’s theory, men taught animals to be carnivorous. There was no blood shed in Eden, when this earth was an “Eden Heaven,” many millions of years before the Atlantean, Lemurian, and Paleolithic periods, about which more in chapter 9. If cows and calves, sheep and lambs, mama and papa and baby monkeys and gorillas, giraffes and hippos can survive in good health as vegetarians, there’s no reason why lions, tigers, leopards, and others can’t do the same, given enough time to restore their digestive organs back to their original state.

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from her book Star Signs

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“…modern science is to date, about as synonymous with the word unenlightened as you can get…”

“…To be precise, it’s not sunrise and sunset anyway. It’s earthrise and earthset. But science has so many things upside down and backwards, I suppose it’s to be expected that their terminology for the Earth’s trips around the Sun would be the same.”

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“As with Love Signs, Star Signs contains a number of controversial concepts of a moral, philosophical, and intellectual nature, in the areas of science and religion…They are presented here as truth, and will be recognized as such by many of you – just as they may be viewed as otherwise by some.

I’ve shared my personal discoveries of truth with you because I believe that any kind of search implies an obligation to exchange with others what has been found, in the interest of hastening the sunrise of harmony on Earth, the ultimate Peace.

However, I do not ask – nor do I even expect – any of you to regard my concepts as your truth, unless they should happen to agree with your own personal convictions.

Partial truth – the seed of wisdom – can be found in many places. In primal instinct may partial truth be found…in earthly law, in social custom, scientific research, philosophy and religious doctrine…But real Truth can be found in one place only – in every man’s and woman’s communion with an eternal Source of hidden Knowledge within – which each individual must seek and find for himself or herself.”

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