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Heart--Shaped Cross
Knowflake

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From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA
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posted March 02, 2008 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
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Right or wrong, it's been my decisions (and the help of my Mods) that have kept this site alive and kicking for the past eight years.

Not to mention the contributions of all the members.

The true allure of LL is right here on the boards, in the posts of all the knowflakes who share (and bare) their souls, challenging and supporting one another, intimately and upclose. Thats what keeps people coming back for more. It is in the relationships that form between people who listen and dialogue with one another on a regular basis, challenging one another, supporting one another, and contributing an incredible variety of ideas, insights, emotions, and energies. If not for that, I think we can all agree, this place would be pretty hollow, lifeless, and dull. Whatever your reasons for keeping this place running, we'll always be grateful to you for making that possible. Sure, there are similar venues all over the web, but I've yet to find one so well layed-out. The attractive design is part of what makes me feel comfortable here. But I think the credit for making Lindaland what it is belongs to all of us. All of those who have helped with the nuts and bolts of the operation, as well as all of the other busy bees who help to make this place interesting, informative, human, and vibrant with life.


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Randall
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posted March 02, 2008 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Eleanore, that was remarkable.

HSC, I agree. Lindaland is the cumulative Energy of all its contributors.

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"There is no use trying," said Alice; "one can't believe impossible things." "I dare say you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was your age, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." Lewis Carroll

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Heart--Shaped Cross
Knowflake

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posted March 02, 2008 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
Eleanore,


"I understand what you mean, HSC."

I'm not sure you do.

You have an unfair advantage, Eleanore.

You are permitted to speak freely in Randall's defense.

We are not permitted to share our own interpretations.

House rules.

Suffice to say, there is a lot I could say.


God Bless,
HSC

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Heart--Shaped Cross
Knowflake

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posted March 02, 2008 09:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
HSC, I agree. Lindaland is the cumulative Energy of all its contributors.

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lalalinda
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posted March 02, 2008 09:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message
Bless You Eleanore

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Eleanore
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posted March 02, 2008 10:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eleanore     Edit/Delete Message
I am permitted to speak within the same bounds everyone is permitted, HSC. And we are all permitted to share our own interpretations, at least as far as we are able to control our tempers and present ourselves respectfully. I have read numerous responses where people have shared their personal perspective about what is happening or has happened at LL. And I certainly can see where my idea of calm and respectful does not align with someone else's. But my point is that although I can appreciate the points you and others are trying to make, I disagree. No one but dafremen has been booted out of here. Randall reserves the right to ban people. Everyone else who has left has done so of their own volition as is their right. I can respect Randall's right to give people opportunities to be better behaved, and he has granted many of us those opportunities over the years, but I can also respect his right to say enough is enough. Which he has. None of us has to like it. If we don't like it, we may leave. I cannot fathom choosing to remain in a place where I was at odds with the rules of conduct or the management. I think Randall has made his decision perfectly clear, concise and understandable. The only problem I see is that some of us don't want to accept his decision nor accept that the day when Randall would finally put his foot down is here at last.

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Eleanore
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posted March 02, 2008 10:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eleanore     Edit/Delete Message
I realize there is a chance I may be making myself quite unpopular by posting as I have in this thread. I can accept that. I feel I have taken enough of this thread off the track that Randall wished it to be on.

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This string is for those who wish to leave. If anyone falls in that category, say goodbye and go. Thanks .... Once again, this is not a string for people to post their opinions or to fan the fire...
- Randall

If any of you have any concerns you wish to address me about, please feel free to contact me at my moderator email, Eleanorell@hotmail.com

Thank you.

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BlueRoamer
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posted March 02, 2008 10:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message
Eleanore


A) If it's not a targeted response at me, why did my name come up twice?

B) I don't understand how the analogy of a house is even remotely comparable to a website. There's (virtually) no threat of physical violence on a website.

C) I do not believe Randall's remarks are in the spirit of Linda because the mentioned quotations are in reference to a physical situation. This is a cyber situation.

I do not wish to continue a long winded argument about what Linda would do. WWLD?

And as HSC said, Eleanore, you are one of Randall's closely guarded, and therefore have the right to free speech. Enjoy your power.

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted March 02, 2008 10:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message

I'm going to write to you, Eleanore.

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26taurus
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posted March 02, 2008 10:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
Not sure what I missed...

Just want to say: Steve, you humble me and I love you, your Spirit, your laser-like perception, soundness, and enourmous heart never cease to amaze. Thank you for speaking up and speaking Truth. You and your voice are a gift to us all here.

BTW, You wont be getting banned. You are one of the greatest assets to this site...
And the reason many continue to stick around.

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26taurus
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posted March 02, 2008 10:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
cant believe that whole thread got deleted...
must have gotten pretty nasty?

Has that ever happened on LL before? An entire thread deleted?

Interesting...

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Randall
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posted March 02, 2008 10:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
I'm still unclear as to who wants to leave and who wants to stay and move beyond the contention.

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"There is no use trying," said Alice; "one can't believe impossible things." "I dare say you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was your age, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." Lewis Carroll

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Randall
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posted March 02, 2008 10:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
And more is going to be deleted if that's what it takes to clean house around here.

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"There is no use trying," said Alice; "one can't believe impossible things." "I dare say you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was your age, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." Lewis Carroll

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26taurus
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posted March 02, 2008 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
The ones who want to leave will leave. They will tell us or will simply stop posting. Maybe some are unsure atm. Maybe some know more --

and better than others.

Do they now have to state they are going to leave? Will you now unregister them if they say they are leaving? Why are you demanding to know? LTT started a thread saying she's leaving. There's one.

I'm way beyond the contention, Randall.

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Randall
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posted March 02, 2008 10:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
No one simply leaves. They always post a string to get attention to that fact. I'm just making it more streamlined and with less drama, so they can post here on one string, and we can quickly move on. Maybe I want some to take shots at me, because I'm just aching to hit that ban button. Or maybe not. Who knows?

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"There is no use trying," said Alice; "one can't believe impossible things." "I dare say you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was your age, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." Lewis Carroll

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26taurus
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posted March 02, 2008 11:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
What are you talking about? Many people have just left, without telling anyone or posting a string about it. You recently said that astrojunkie just dissapeared and there are countless others who have too. People often wonder "what happened to so-and-so"?

Your trying to make it more streamlined and with less drama isnt working because it isnt really the issue.

"Quickly moving on" isnt always the best mode of operation either. Things left undone or swept under the rug have a way of coming back to haunt you.

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26taurus
Knowflake

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posted March 02, 2008 11:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
"Maybe I want some to take shots at me, because I'm just aching to hit that ban button. Or maybe not. Who knows?"

And who cares? You will do what you will and the world will go on.

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Randall
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posted March 02, 2008 11:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
I meant those who leave over drama. I have yet to be haunted by any of my decisions. I do the best I can given the current information, and if I think I could have done better, I make a personal note for next time.

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"There is no use trying," said Alice; "one can't believe impossible things." "I dare say you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was your age, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." Lewis Carroll

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26taurus
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posted March 02, 2008 11:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
Okay, Randall.

Love to you.

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted March 02, 2008 11:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
Not sure what I missed...

Check your email.


quote:
Just want to say: Steve, you humble me and I love you, your Spirit, your laser-like perception, soundness, and enourmous heart never cease to amaze. Thank you for speaking up and speaking Truth. You and your voice are a gift to us all here.

BTW, You wont be getting banned. You are one of the greatest assets to this site...
And the reason many continue to stick around.


Wow.

I'm speechless.

Quite an accomplishment, T.



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26taurus
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posted March 02, 2008 11:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
Hi, just checked. It hasnt arrived yet...

Gonna kick back in some more pleasant places now.

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BlueRoamer
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posted March 03, 2008 12:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message
Can you coax your mind from its wandering
and keep to the original oneness?
Can you let your body become
supple as a newborn child's?
Can you cleanse your inner vision
until you see nothing but the light?
Can you love people and lead them
without imposing your will?
Can you deal with the most vital matters
by letting events take their course?
Can you step back from you own mind
and thus understand all things?

Giving birth and nourishing,
having without possessing,
acting with no expectations,
leading and not trying to control:
this is the supreme virtue.


-Tao te ching

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silverstone
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posted March 03, 2008 01:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverstone     Edit/Delete Message
I just would like to make a comment. Randall is very fair and it takes a lot to be banned from LL; he also has given knowflakes many chances and has let others returned after being banned.

Randall, I support you, I just want you to know that...

And, for continuing to make LL a better place

Eleanore,

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Between the woods and frozen lake
The darkest evening of the year....
The only other sound's the sweep
Of easy wind and downy flake.

The woods are lovely, dark, and deep,
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep. ~Robert Frost

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ListensToTrees
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posted March 03, 2008 06:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
Edited

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Randall
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posted March 03, 2008 06:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
I thought you left.

I have no wounded Ego. If you think otherwise, you have been misled. You have been misled by a few things, actually. I have no Ego at all as it relates to Lindaland...just a protective father's instincts. I always stand by my decisions. Right or wrong, it has led to some very interesting discoveries (and I always love learning new things) and made Lindaland a better place, because it led me to take on more Mods and to adhere to a stronger enforcement of the rules.

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"There is no use trying," said Alice; "one can't believe impossible things." "I dare say you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was your age, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." Lewis Carroll

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