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Yin
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posted June 30, 2008 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message
I am considering moving away from this sleepy New England town. I don't know if I can survive another looooong winter with absolutely nothing going on. It is a great retirement community I hear but I am not ready to retire just yet.

What do you think the best place to live in the US is and why?
Please rate the climate, public transportation, housing, job market and things-to-do.
Where I live the climate is somewhat mild but there is no spring here. There is no public transportation to speak of, houses are outrageously expensive and jobs are scarce.
There is nothing to do in the winter which lasts from Nov. - May.

I have done a lot of research on this - right now I am hoping people will share their personal stories and experiences.

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Tigerlily
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posted June 30, 2008 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tigerlily     Edit/Delete Message
If you're looking for a place where the focus is on green eco-friendly living, spirituality, alternative and holistic healing, the arts, outdoor activities, beautiful nature and scenery....Boulder, Colorado might be the place for you. Boulder is expensive but probably not compared to New England standards. In any case, there are plenty of surrounding towns just outside Boulder proper that are more affordable (most of them being about 10-15 minutes from downtown Boulder).

Boulder is about 30-40 minutes from downtown Denver so you have the amenities of big city culture and entertainment in Denver and the charm and spiritual focus of the smaller artsy, new age-oriented town of Boulder. Boulder has it's own cultural amentities too: a world famous outdoor Shakespeare festival that runs during the summer, a ballet, a symphony, theater, art galleries galore, lots of restaurants and outdoor cafes, plenty of shopping, beautiful mountain views (the town is situated in a valley surrounded by mountains).

There are a lot of different types in Boulder: outdoorsy people (who enjoy hiking, skiing, mountain climbing, white water rafting, bicycling, etc.), artists, musicians, writers, poets and craftsmen, hippies, yuppies, intellectuals, college students (it is a particularly liberal college town), spiritual seekers, new-agers and alternative healers, and then just your average down-to-earth types who want to live in a beautiful, clean (no one litters in Boulder), safe, artsy, liberal, eco-friendly town.

The climate in this part of Colorado is wonderful. Four seasons, fairly mild, not as cold and gray as New England - in fact there are an average of 300+ sunny days a year, more than the average in Florida and even most of California. In the winter it can get as low as 10 degrees (but you don't feel it like you do in the NE because the air is dry - so you don't feel the cold or the heat the same way you would elsewhere)...and then the next day it's in the 60's and you're wearing a t-shirt. The nights are cool even during the summer which is really pleasant.

Public transportation is very good and there are bike paths everywhere.

Job-wise I can't say because I guess it depends on your line of work. Check out the stats on Boulder and the Colorado forum at City-Data.com ( http://www.city-data.com/city/Boulder-Colorado.html and http://www.city-data.com/forum/colorado/ ) and you'll find out all you need to know.

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Azalaksh
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posted June 30, 2008 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Yin ~

If you don't mind a rainy climate, the Seattle, WA or Portland, OR areas might do. There is SOOOOO much to do within a one-hour drive of the downtowns!! Mountains today, ocean tomorrow Rainforest next week, semi-arid desert the week after
I grew up and lived in the Northwest for 40 years, and still remember it fondly. The winters aren't so harsh as where you and I are now. These are progressive, "liberal," green (as it lots of recycling etc) cities -- both sophisticated/international yet cozy. Public transportation is a focus and there's plenty of it.

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nattie33
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posted June 30, 2008 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nattie33     Edit/Delete Message
You can look around here. it's a place to start.
http://www.city-data.com/forum/

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nattie33
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posted June 30, 2008 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nattie33     Edit/Delete Message
http://www.springfieldadventures.com/final/

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zenwarner
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posted June 30, 2008 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for zenwarner     Edit/Delete Message
http://www.findyourspot.com/

Try this website. Its very cool.

"Take our fun online quiz We'll instantly provide you with a tailored list of the best cities and small towns that fit YOU. Compare the perfect hometowns and undiscovered havens that match your interests. Dig deeper with colorful reports, job listings, and more. It's fun & easy"

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"Some days i'm bursting at the seams
with all my half remembered dreams " David Gray(Aint No Love)

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Yin
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posted July 01, 2008 08:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you all for your replies.

Tigerlily and Zala - Boulder/Denver and Portland are very high on my list.
Portland seems more walkable and there is a lot to do there but I am put off by the weather. I don't know if I can handle the gray days.
Zala, did you live in Portland and how come you moved? It really sounds like a great place to be especially if you have property there. I saw a "House hunters" show where this young couple was buying a house in Portland and they had to spend about 1 mil. to get a decent place
Boulder on the other hand seems like it has a better climate but it is smaller and it would be a big challenge to find a good job there.
Tigerlily, do/did you live in Boulder?

Now these are second hand impressions that I got from people's accounts. I realize I need to visit these cities to get a better idea.

nattie33 and zenwarner - would you recommend a place from personal experience?

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nattie33
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posted July 01, 2008 10:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nattie33     Edit/Delete Message
I hate to tell you but i live way up north and am looking to get out also. I have always lived in states with cold winters. I have been checking into the ozarks. but haven't visited yet.
I personally like pennsylvania. and i lived there. they have winter but nothing like up here. I like scranton. And the people there also.

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Tigerlily
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posted July 01, 2008 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tigerlily     Edit/Delete Message
Yin, I live just outside Boulder, halfway between Boulder and Denver. To give you a visual of the area, here's the link to one of my photo sets of Colorado: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tigerlily7007/sets/72157600110116658/detail/

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zenwarner
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posted July 01, 2008 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for zenwarner     Edit/Delete Message
No, all i can say is dont move to texas. Its icky and oppressively hot.

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posted July 01, 2008 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aphrodite     Edit/Delete Message
I've been intrigued by Austin, TX, but have not had an opportunity to visit to see what it's like myself. Here is a wikipedia description:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin,_Texas

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Yin
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posted July 01, 2008 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message
OMG, Tigerlily, these pictures are soooo beautiful... but where are all the people gone?

Aphrodite, I thought about Austin too - will possibly go there in the beginning of August (I know - terrible time to visit Texas weather wise)
It sounds like an interesting city with lots to do, good jobs and inexpensive real estate. The only problem is that the city doesn't seem very walkable... and I hate driving

zenwarner - you live in Texas I gather?

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zenwarner
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posted July 01, 2008 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for zenwarner     Edit/Delete Message
Yes I live in Texas. My brother just moved to Austin. Several of my friends went to college there. Everyone who has lived there loves it.
So, if you have to move to Texas, Austin is the only acceptable place. Hahah.
Its still really gross and hot though. And youll be hard pressed to find good mass transit in most of Texas.
But, like you said Texas has amazing real estate prices. Some of the lowest in the nation. Not Austin so much as other places. But its still reasonable.

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Aphrodite
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posted July 01, 2008 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aphrodite     Edit/Delete Message
That's cool Yin, do let us know what you think of Austin after your visit.

I've heard that Switzerland is very nice too, but it's in Europe and you're looking to stay in the US.

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Harpyr
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posted July 01, 2008 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harpyr     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Yin!

I lived in both Portland and Boulder (technically I lived in itty bitty Nederland which is 30 minutes up the mountain from Boulder but we spent a lot of time in Boulder)
and I preferred Portland. Granted I kinda like the rain but it was more than just my preference for the climate and ecosystem of Oregon over Colorado. There was something more 'real' about the people in Portland. Boulder has this subtle feeling of elitism that runs through it that I could never get past. Everything was more expensive than I was used to and it was frustrating because we were very poor. Portland on the other hand had plenty of really affordable fun stuff to do.

On the other hand, I loved the mountain areas surrounding Boulder. It was rustic and rugged and the landscape was stunningly beautiful. Very cold winters up there though. It reminded me of Alaska so I liked the familiarity of the mountain forest ecosystem.

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posted July 01, 2008 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aphrodite     Edit/Delete Message
Harpyr! I was thinking about you the other day and was wondering how you, Quinn and Azalea were doing?

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Yin
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posted July 01, 2008 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Harpyr! Good to see you around! Post some pictures of the kiddies here if you'd like.

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Boulder has this subtle feeling of elitism that runs through it that I could never get past.

Funny you said that - I read similar comments on the city-data forum re Boulder.
So that's 2:1 for Portland.

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Harpyr
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posted July 01, 2008 08:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harpyr     Edit/Delete Message
oh we're doing good.. Quinn will be 7 in a couple weeks and Azalea is a very tall 3 year old. And then there's 6 month old Meara Maeve too! Hmm.. I should start a thread for an update on us....
It'll have to be later tho cause baby is calling me. There's a link to my blog on my profile if anyone is interested.

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wheelsofcheese
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posted July 02, 2008 09:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wheelsofcheese     Edit/Delete Message
Apparently, I should be living in Louisiana!

Great quiz, ta!

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MoonWitch
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posted July 03, 2008 09:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonWitch     Edit/Delete Message
Can't beat the weather in Los Angeles, honestly.

But public transportation isn't great and it is very expensive.

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Harpyr
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posted July 03, 2008 08:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harpyr     Edit/Delete Message
That is a great quiz! It's really funny but my number one town was Milwaukie, OR.. which is right outside of Portland- where I lived for years! haha I knew there was a reason why I missed it.

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zenwarner
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posted July 03, 2008 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for zenwarner     Edit/Delete Message
I always get placed in small towns in the pacific north west. Mostly Oregon. Im visiting in October.
Everything about it sounds like heaven. sigh.....

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Yin
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posted July 04, 2008 07:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message
Every time I do the quiz the first city that pops up is Little Rock, AR

Anybody from Little Rock here?

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Obe
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posted July 04, 2008 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Obe     Edit/Delete Message
HI Yin

I highly recommend anywhere in western washington, if you can deal with rain most of the year and giant slugs the size of bratwurst, it really is worth it for the natural beauty and temperate weather. The puget sound connects all the Seattle- area cities with its ferry system,or the land transportation can connect you too. You should look up olympia WA and see what you think of it. This place seems to have it's own consciousness, it's like the 60's ideals have been kept alive, though not in appearances. Of course you'll probably mostly get to see just the towns on line, but the forest is all around and you can always choose to live in the sticks and still be very close to the city. and you can always get fresh sushi anywhere around.

the plus about living in town is that the public transportation is great, so you won't have gas worries, but the plus to living in the sticks is that rent is very affordable, and don't worry, this wouldn't be just some house in the middle of nowhere, neighborhoods are wonderfully constructed so that nature and civilization are in harmony

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nattie33
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posted July 05, 2008 11:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nattie33     Edit/Delete Message
I have never been to little rock. but found this link

http://www.littlerock-living.com/

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