posted January 16, 2009 02:21 PM         

it is so hard to realize that and separate the actions of the sickness from the individual.

posted January 16, 2009 07:08 PM         

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Andrea Yates kills her own kids - poor depressed victim she needs our prayers... BULL.

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posted January 18, 2009 05:32 PM         

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It's amazing to me that nobody here has touched upon what are, for me, the most relevant points.
Blame it on my Pisces South Node, but, I have difficulty demonizing people and calling for their blood.

As I see it, this woman is sick.. sick.. as in, ill.. as in, not right in the head... as in, needs help.

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HSC - Yes, abusers do have a sickness that requires help. I agree. One of the first things we do in my work, is pull the abuser aside and tell them what they have done and tell them that it is an act of abuse. We allow the abuser to admit their actions were an act of abuse. Sometimes they will not admit it, but inside they know they have done wrong.

Then the process comes of "fixing" their act of abuse. "Fixing" is the consequence. Whether the "fixing" is counselling or 'containment', there is indeed a consequence. All abusers need a consequence that will assist them in acknowleding their behaviour and changing it.

In view of feeling compassion for the women apprehended for a crime, I did put that thought aside. I felt the title of this thread attracted more comment from me, than the article itself, and wished to address that act of abuse instead.

If we are to shoot that b1tch, then it is only fair we use that language in regard to mufti who wish to marry off 10 year girls. That would be equal rights, no?

However, I do have an issue with writing titles that read "Shoot the Mufti". So, keeping within a spirit of fairness and good taste, I would rather post information about the plight of the 10 year old girls, rather than dwell on the actions of this woman and swill around an argument of condemnation of her. I posted the information more for vdi's benefit than the woman in the article, as I think continually condeming women in threads is tedious, outdated, immature, ignorant and in need of a fair response.

Abuse in all forms attracts a variety of consequences.

posted January 19, 2009 02:14 AM         

I think its an interesting parallel....

But then you have to wonder if its different in other cultures.

"When in Rome" and all that.

Speaking of Rome.. what was the life expectancy back then? In ancient Rome?

I remember hearing that everyone got married around the age of 13 in the Dark Ages.

Something like that.

But then, they werent called the Dark Ages for nothing.

posted January 19, 2009 02:36 AM         

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or what kind of human being you are. That's the real disease

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Quite true, MVM. It's all about people and not singling out a group of persons for condemnation. The OP's behaviour is to target women and call them trash/garbage/stupid.

posted January 21, 2009 11:32 PM         

How does she make them look like puppies? The is no better and no worse than a male predator in most cases. Though, statistically speaking, there are more male predators and the often end up being violent (note all the little boys and girls that end up DEAD in the hands of pedofile predators).

posted January 22, 2009 03:25 PM         

what i don't understand is why venus, from india where girls are married off at, what, 12? 13? - considers this any worse...though personally plying a preteen with alcohol is nasty and implies his will was evaded rather than forcibly overcome?

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