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PeaceAngel
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posted March 29, 2009 12:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
Just in response to what you said in Astro 2 about women hating you.

It disappoints me when women hate other women just because they are female, becauase there is this sense of sisterhood that we should have and to support each other in what we, generally, perceive as a male dominated world. I'm not a feminist, but the girls, when it's right, should have each others' backs. That said, there's always going to be individual differences between people, regardless of sex.

That women hate you because you give off sexy vibes, isn't about you. The only time I can see that it would be is if you're chasing their boyfriends, and you don't strike me as that type. The way I see it is you're genuinely looking for someone to love you the way you are. And the cheating boyfriend of another women is not going to cut that for you.

The other thing it could reflect is if their partners are looking at you and it threatens them - that they don't see themselves as good looking, etc. But again, that's not yours. If someone is feeling insecure about their relationship, that's not yours either. I'm large breasted and I get killer looks from women if their partners eyes stray my way. I don't wear provactive clothing either, and there's only so much you can hide your baps (as bm likes to call them ). And I'm certainly no looker, or a threat to them or their relationships. I just figure, if I'm acting with integrity, it's not mine, let them sort it out.

I had never noticed that some women just hate other women, until my husband pointed it out. And he's right. Shame.

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koiflower
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posted March 29, 2009 12:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for koiflower     Edit/Delete Message
It's disgusting that women hate other women. It's hard enough being the gender that is payed less, have less career opportunities, discriminated against in some form or other. Then you come across another woman that knocks women - it IS shame on them!!!

I've noticed some women in the media let women down too. They put on silly voices and promote silly ideals, such as shopping for glittery shoes is vitally important.

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MyVirgoMask
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posted March 29, 2009 12:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
It's ugly dislike one's own gender - we're also, however, taught to a degree to compete from an early age (from various sources)
The more we compete, the more we dislike each other, alienate one another, and isolate ourselves.
And then we really are damsels in distress at that point...in need of rescue.

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PeaceAngel
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posted March 29, 2009 12:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
True MVM. And then you realise that the only person that you ever really compete with is yourself. Then you see everyone around you as equals and not a threat, as they are just trying to get on with their own life and find their own happiness, just like you. But you have to acceept yourself first.

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posted March 29, 2009 12:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
I do agree with you though

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PeaceAngel
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posted March 29, 2009 12:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
MVM

You're one very very interesting lady. Your breadth of experience, with life and people, and your wisdom, is enormous, girlfriend. I have so much respect for you. You are such a strong woman.

R-E-S-P-E-C-T

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posted March 29, 2009 12:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
PA, thank you, lovely lady

Sorry, I had to delete that post. Gotta retain a LITTLE mystery despite the obvious past


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PeaceAngel
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posted March 29, 2009 12:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
Okay - I won't reveal your secret life of debauchery as one of Bill Clinton's cigars in another lifetime.

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MyVirgoMask
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posted March 29, 2009 02:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
lol. You can buy the book instead. It's all in there
Hasn't sold well, but my publisher is kind of a moron.

....Bill Clinton wants nothing to do with me; he says he's given me up cold turkey. The nerve

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PeaceAngel
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posted March 29, 2009 02:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
OMG! You mean....... he made the claim that he had "no relations" with you.

Geez!

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LEXX
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posted March 29, 2009 02:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
edited.
I do not hate women, but I still do not understand or relate to them well...or most at all.
But I am not a normal "woman", physically or mentally.

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Lara
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posted March 29, 2009 03:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks PA

I will come back to this later today if you don't mind - want to be in the best frame of mind to reply to you because of your kindness toward me

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posted March 29, 2009 03:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
Any time Lara. I've seen the other thread and it's heated in there. Whenever you're ready.

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Lara
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posted March 29, 2009 04:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks PA. I'll be back later with a clear head


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Lara
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posted March 29, 2009 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for replying Peace Angel. I hate it too and yet it happens to me a lot.

No i'm not the type to chase anyone nor steal or flirt with someone else's man. To be honest i always thought it was a body jealousy because once l was in Australia on the bus and these girls sitting behind me were bitching about me and being nasty. I totally ignored it and their faces dropped a mile when we got to Bondi Beach and my hunk of a boyfriend jumped into the bus cos he was so excited to see me LOL
They just gave me kinda "how did she get him" looks!!

Anyway, l find that online i also have problems. On FaceBook l have been deleted 3 times now, reported by other women i am sure of it.
Basically i'm popular and l post lots of spiritual and positive stuff on FB and l like to debate issues. My pics are quite racy and the combination unwittingly draws attention from men. Other women don't like this and to be honest it's a real pain when i get deleted because i have nearly a 1,000 friends and l lose not only them but the sentimental videos l create with my kids, etc etc.

The same happens on social networking sites too. I was invited to 2 by different friends and l got reported and kicked off both. One the one site l was named "Queen of the site" due to my popularity and someone obviously didn't like that and reported me for stalking her. I didn't even know who she was!!!! LOL
On the other site, l posted a link to a video about 9/11 and some woman reported me for being anti-semetic. wtf?

I can't win... and it frustrates me as it affects my life.
I can't do anything about it either cos of my natural individuality so l stick out in my clothing, my attitude and my verbal expression.
I am respected a lot by other women though who think i'm cool and kinda look up to me so it seems to fall into two camps.

I do accept it and l go on with my life but then something else happens like l got deleted again off FaceBook 2 weeks ago grrrr. Thank goodness this time they reinstated my account.

I am not good in groups of women though i have to admit. I feel uncomfortable, preferring to hang out with a couple of girlfriends or a girl and a guy.

*sigh*

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lalalinda
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posted March 29, 2009 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message
give us a smile Lara,
you're just too pretty

I don't understand women who are like that either
I think we should band together and drive men crazy.

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Peri
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posted March 29, 2009 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message
Lara, I am sure you are Leo ASC really, you totally sound like one

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Lara
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posted March 29, 2009 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
LOL Lala
Yeah it's insane that women wanna be enemies with women. We are the same so why fight your own kind!!!

Peri - hehehe may i ask you why you think i'm Leo AC? I don't really have any of their traits

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Peri
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posted March 29, 2009 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message
I don't know... there is soooo much leo about you

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Lara
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posted March 29, 2009 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
hehe Peri

ok, well it's interesting because in my real life there really isn't much at all!!
I am so unlike Leo it's insane. I'm very attracted to them though!

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Peri
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posted March 29, 2009 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message
well, I may be wrong of course, maybe it is your DSC that I sense

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Lara
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posted March 29, 2009 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Maybe?

I wonder if you are sensing Leo DC with all my aries trining it? I don't even know if that is possible.

It's interesting because some people on her think i'm Leo and some are sure i'm Aquarius lol


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posted March 29, 2009 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
Re online: Well I'm going to be honest and say Lara that your biggest "handicap" is your Aries Moon. You might might speak the truth but it's the way you say things that can be or is offensive at times. I used to be like that in younger days where my Aries rising would just bite people but I have taught myself and with experience realised it's not what you say but HOW you say it. I also had issues with Seeing Stars concerning his communication, he has Mars in Aries.

For example, if you do end up in an argument/debate with someone consider these points:

1. Don't say "you're wrong", say "I disagree". Saying "you're wrong" can demean the other person and make the other person's opinions seem unimportant, petty, worthless.
2. Give reasons why you don't agree with their opinion.
3. Give your opinion on the matter(s).

This adds structure to your argument and explains your relationale, it's the less aggressive way of getting points across and people feel less "threatened" or offended. Ramming people never helps, you won't change another person's opinions by doing that. Gentle and well structured persuasion will and it makes your arguments more foolproof.

Re Reality: Well you probably have an immense projection or aura about you, more specifically, self-confidence. Self-confidence and good self worth/esteem will undo the strings of many and others will find you threatening. I've got this effect on other people sometimes. Front is an amazing thing.

As for dress, they say that women are allowed to dress as they choose but it doesn't change what we feel and how we judge others on the inside. Be careful with what you wear.

Re others: Leo DC is speaking up in Lara.


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posted March 29, 2009 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
I hate having an Aries moon sometimes too.
I can totally relate to what 23 says - it's very hard to contain myself. My first reaction isn't just 'You're wrong.', it's more like 'You're $%@%^& wrong, you &$@*, what the &%*#% is wrong with you???!!!'
I try not to voice it though it's really REALLY easy for me when caught off-guard and react that way. I try all the time, and I'm not always successful. When people tell me I am being hot-headed or whatever, I'm always like, are you kidding me? Do you have any idea how much worse I can be? LOL. Most of the time 'You're wrong' is actually be being highly diplomatic. There are MUCH worse things I can say, believe me

When I need to vent it out I usually do my Tasmanian Devil fit in the privacy of my room where nobody sees, even though that part of me demands audience as it projects lol. So it should be honored in some way since it's part of your nature.

And Lara: I generally don't pay much attention to cattiness. There's always going to be someone threatened or whatever. No need to dwell on it.

From time to time I have had women that react badly to me when I go out (especially when i was in my 20's). Maybe it's how I carry myself - I do tend to strut lol.
...But I generally don't pay any mind to cattiness unless it's confrontational. The times it has been, it's been completely illogical.
Example: One woman bartender at a bar I'd sometimes go to used to give me dirty looks constantly. Blatant ones, and many snide remarks. I would go above and beyond to be polite to her, thinking 'Maybe it's the way I'm ordering the drink'.
I asked her very calmly what the problem was, and she basically told me that I was a terrible person and broke her male friend's heart when he bought me a drink and I never gave him my number. I mean, how silly can you get? Can one not exercise their right to say No? The guy didn't seem to mind me saying after an hour of conversation, 'No, thanks. I'm not interested, but thank you for the drink.'
And then I was called a **** because she saw me leave the bar with a man a week earlier. WTF? I tell you, whose business is that? No one's.

That's the kind of stuff I'm talking about.
But it doesn't bother me now - and I don't see why it should bother you. You're a grown woman. If some other female or group of females has a problem with you, that's their problem, not yours.
If it brings up feelings for you, what are they? Is it the terrible injustice of standing out? Well guess what, honey, there's always a price to pay LOL!
Either that, or maybe you sincerely just want to be liked by everyone, and I could understand that. I want that too, but I know it's impossible.
Or maybe these women feel alienated by you for a certain reason. Have you ever just asked? You never know, it might be an interesting reason. Maybe it'll make sense, or not.

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Lara
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posted March 29, 2009 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
I totally hear what you are saying 23 and MVM,

A lot of this though is just people l meet out and about without my aries stellium even getting a look in and also on FaceBook where l am just sweet and just me really. I never really do anything on facebook that could allow for controversy, it just happens.
I generally keep my nose clean and out of people's way in life but they seem to want to provoke me and draw a reaction out of me, it's weird. Do you get that?

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