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Lara
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posted August 16, 2010 05:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
I am seriously fed up with this pathetic crap now.
Why should I put up with this deranged persons anger and bitterness toward me just because he can't pigeon hole me!

Please see his latest comment when I have ignored him as asked to by Randall.

"Winged Leo
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posted August 15, 2010 11:02 PM         
Ami,
She is just jealous of you and has some serious insecurity issues and it's manifesting as jabs at you. She can't stand seeing your posts get a lot of attention and that people are genuinely and thoughtfully answering your questions and they really like you, this is what eats her up. I think you were doing fine ignoring her. Let her drown in her whole miserable puddle of hate.

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Dy-na-mi-tee
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posted August 16, 2010 05:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dy-na-mi-tee     Edit/Delete Message
Lara - could I please get your email quickly?
We're both on now.. so you can post it and then delete.

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popcorn
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posted August 16, 2010 05:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message
Ami,
She is just jealous of you and has some serious insecurity issues and it's manifesting as jabs at you. She can't stand seeing your posts get a lot of attention and that people are genuinely and thoughtfully answering your questions and they really like you, this is what eats her up. I think you were doing fine ignoring her. Let her drown in her whole miserable puddle of hate.

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I don't like that. This more describe the writers than someone else. Commonly lifes rules.

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popcorn
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posted August 16, 2010 06:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message
Lara. What an individual say about one another individual more describe the person who say it. That's it. I know everyone here know that.

Dont care about it. You have been here in so long time so....who care about what she say.

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Peri
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posted August 16, 2010 06:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message
from what I've read, Ami asked you not to post in her theads because she finds your comments offensive but you still do it and thus upset her and provoke her friend WingedLeo, why do you keep doing this? Maybe you should simply stop posting in their threads if you don't get along? I think this was Randall's advice to you.

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Dy-na-mi-tee
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posted August 16, 2010 06:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dy-na-mi-tee     Edit/Delete Message
It is a public forum and she can post wherever she likes.. on whichever thread and express her opinion. There is no ban against this.
It is simply not the thread starter's prerogative, on a public forum - to prevent others from replying and expressing their opinion.

Neither is it the prerogative of the webmaster to demand someone no longer posts on particular threads -- Which is why - this:

"I think this was Randall's advice to you."
-- was in deed an "advice", which the poster can take or leave, and not a demand.

What happened to freedom of speech?

--

However I do think that the way in which the opinion is expressed is in a particular tone - that ends up being instigating. And this should change.

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popcorn
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posted August 16, 2010 06:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message
I like democracy and a forum there we get to have different views. Thats improve . I dont like personal attack.

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Peri
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posted August 16, 2010 07:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message
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And it is entirely silly, imo - to ask a person to stop posting on your threads.What happened to freedom of speech?

I personally don't find it silly. I myself used to refrain from posting in the threads if I did not get along with the topic starter. Other knowflakes do it too. It is not about freedom of speech at all, it's about common sense and not provoking a fight because you know beforehand that your opinion is not welcomed or needed and may cause a hostile reaction.

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mir
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posted August 16, 2010 07:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message
I just want to say this;

I read the other thread and it did a lot to me in a negative way when I read your first comment about the INANE question and the RATIO you brought up regarding 'glad to be born because etc. etc.' afterwards.

Some people are NOT glad to be born and they have enough reasons to feel that way.
Some people do not deny life & their FEELINGS and they are often more in contact with their whole body than the ones who agitate against the so-called 'negative ones'.

Life Lara, is so much more than 'pressing the reset button in the brain' so that the person has a cleaner flow of energy running through them.

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Dy-na-mi-tee
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posted August 16, 2010 07:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dy-na-mi-tee     Edit/Delete Message
I edited that as I didn't want to offend anyone with the "silly" comment.. Because at the end of the day I don't think I should be labeling behaviours as "silly" simply because they don't suit me.


quote:
I myself used to refrain from posting in the threads if I did not get along with the topic starter.

Peri - that was your CHOICE.
What you do is your CHOICE.
But you cannot request someone else to stop posting on your thread. Because that is not your choice.
It is theirs.

quote:
It's about common sense and not provoking a fight

That's very true. I do believe the tone of some of the posts is provoking and instigating - and this should change.

quote:
you know beforehand that your opinion is not welcomed or needed

It is a public forum. Her opinion was welcomed and needed by me. It was welcomed by Teasel - and I am sure it was welcomed by others.
The people posting on a particular thread are not posting ONLY for the thread starter.
They are posting for anyone out there who cares to read their opinion.

The TONE of her post however - was patronizing in parts. This is what I see as unwelcome.

Also - There is a difference between posting ON a thread regarding the topic -- and -- directing your post towards a particular person. If that particular person finds your advice unnecessary - I agree that there is NO point in directing posts *towards* them.

But that does not mean you should not post your opinion ^ regarding the thread topic.

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popcorn
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posted August 16, 2010 07:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message
Peri. If someone not see things on the same way as me I'm happy they say that to me even if I do not agree. Maybee I also feel me angry in the beginning but I start the process to think about it and can find my own answer.

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Ami Ann
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posted August 16, 2010 07:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
from what I've read, Ami asked you not to post in her theads because she finds your comments offensive but you still do it and thus upset her and provoke her friend WingedLeo, why do you keep doing this? Maybe you should simply stop posting in their threads if you don't get along? I think this was Randall's advice to you.

It IS a public forum but you would think that anyone with consideration for another person would RESPECT that person's wishes when they were said nicely and respectfully.

Lara does not wish to do that.

I just want to make it known that I told her repeatedly that I do not wish to engage.

I feel badly for Randall that people cannot figure out simple rules of human engagement without bothering him .

He told people to stay away from people who bother them.
If Lara does not care for me--Stay away.
Randall ALREADY told you this, Lara.
Winged Leo came in cuz YOU violated what Randall already said.
Think about it.

Have some respect for Randall, too.
My Goodness,does he want to be bothered with pettiness?
He told you --Get along OR WALK AWAY---
CAPICHE??????

Ami

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popcorn
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posted August 16, 2010 07:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message
bump

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lalalinda
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posted August 16, 2010 07:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message
Exellent advice Peri

Since there is no Astro content here I am going to transfer this thread to LLC2

Lara and Winged Leo. There is a thin line between love and hate, you two need to work out your differences.

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Dy-na-mi-tee
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posted August 16, 2010 07:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dy-na-mi-tee     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
It IS a public forum but you would think that anyone with consideration for another person would RESPECT that person's wishes when they were said nicely and respectfully.

Ami - I'm sorry but I disagree with this.
It is true that she should not post instigating comments TOWARDS you.

But she can post on whichever thread she likes - about the topic at hand.

Once you put an idea out there in PUBLIC - anyone has the prerogative to reply with their opinion. Absolutely anyone -- as long as they stick to the rules of "behaviour" SET by the particular website.
(But provocative behaviour is not ^ in accordance with the rules imo.)

It is not up to you as the thread starter to censor this, nor should it be.

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Peri
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posted August 16, 2010 07:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message
quote:

Peri - that was your CHOICE.
What you do is your CHOICE.
But you cannot request someone else to stop posting on your thread. Because that is not your choice.
It is theirs.

Of course it is my choice and of course I do not and am not entitled to request Lara to do or not do anything, I was just wondering why she does it anyway because she knows exactly what the reaction will be.

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Ami Ann
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posted August 16, 2010 07:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Dyna
I totally agree with you.
She can post to any topic/thread.
She has said horrible, unprovoked things to me and about me.You have seen the worst she did on that thread about us.
All I have asked is her not to address ME--personally.
She is welcome to give her opinions on any topic --my threads included.
When this dies down, I will go back to ignoring--anyway--so it won't happen again.
I made a mistake by responding and this is the result.

Ami

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Dy-na-mi-tee
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posted August 16, 2010 07:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dy-na-mi-tee     Edit/Delete Message
Peri - Well I guess she does it - because she wants to state her opinion, on a topic that seems *significant*.

I mean I think it is a significant issue to ask whether others wished they were never born. It ties in to many psychological issues and problems.

If I saw this topic I would WISH to post my opinion.. because I would WANT it to be out there.

The problem in my opinion - is the fact that Lara ends up using a patronizing tone because she is too passionate about the issues brought up and secondly - she aims her posts at Ami (when Ami has expressively said she is not interested in Lara's opinion).

So Lara - Aim your opinions at those people who ARE interested!
And do so in a tone that is not patronizing.
I AM interested. Aim your opinions at me or someone else.. or just state them - and aim them at no one.

That's my only advice ^

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Dy-na-mi-tee
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posted August 16, 2010 07:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dy-na-mi-tee     Edit/Delete Message
Ami -

quote:
Dyna
I totally agree with you.
She can post to any topic/thread.
She has said horrible, unprovoked things to me and about me.

All I have asked is her not to address ME--personally.
She is welcome to give her opinions on any topic --my threads included.


That's exactly what I think about it.

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Peri
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posted August 16, 2010 07:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
The problem in my opinion - is the fact that Lara ends up using a patronizing tone...

exactly

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Ami Ann
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posted August 16, 2010 07:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Of course we agree Dyn-a cuz it is common sense and common courtesy.
I mean life exists without moderators having to be called on to look at a pimple.
Lara-- play in the sandbox well with others.
I will ,too.
Let's let it go.

Ami

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To will to be the self which one truly is,is indeed,the opposite of despair.

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Dy-na-mi-tee
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posted August 16, 2010 07:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dy-na-mi-tee     Edit/Delete Message
Ami -

quote:
I mean life exists without moderators having to be called on to look at a pimple.

That's true!

That's why I would've liked to email Lara.

Because - Lara, I get the feeling that you think you are unappreciated and therefore overreact to things.
Many people here do appreciate you and you can focus on those.

Ami is the person she is.
You are the person you are.
WLeo is the person he is.

You are all different people.
And you do not appreciate each other.

So it is pointless.

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Benedict Moon*
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posted August 16, 2010 08:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message
I didn't see Lara do anything other than give some constructive advice...even the FIRST time you asked her not to address you anymore. Maybe it's her delivery that bothers you? Either way, it was no reason for WingedLeo to stalk and personally attack her once again.

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Dy-na-mi-tee
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posted August 16, 2010 08:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dy-na-mi-tee     Edit/Delete Message
The delivery was patronizing.
I agree about WLeo's post being uncalled for.
But if there was no instigation - I doubt it would've gone that way.

I would just like to see a happy Lara again, posting her thoughts - rather than snapping.
Some things are like beating a dead horse with a stick. Trying to get Ami or anyone to listen to your advice if they do not find it helpful - is one of these things.

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belgz
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posted August 16, 2010 10:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
Lol this is funny. Someone please tell me who winged Leo is? Is it PDF or not? Whenever I ask no one answers!!

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