posted September 10, 2006 02:06 PM         

A C EEEEEEE GG HH III LLLLLL M NNNNN SS Y

How do you do lexigrams? Do you generate words that come naturally or is it ok to get anagrams of words and form your own sentences?

The names have alot of Es and Ls, and I see hell and ills .. and I don't know where to start. I ran it through an online generator, and they came up with some words - thing is, are they considered accurate?

posted September 15, 2006 05:22 PM         

A EEEEEEE III LLLLLL C GG HH M NNNNN SS Y

I AM HIS
HE IS MINE
I CHARM HIM
HE CHARMS ME
I CAME TO HEAL
LESS ILLNESS
MAGIC CHANGE
GAY SMILE
SLY SMILE
SILLY GAMES
CLEAN GLASS
HAM N’ CHEESE
SMELL LILAC
CALL HIM? YES,
I CAN SEE MY ENEMY IN HELL
MEANNESS IS A SIN

posted September 15, 2006 07:38 PM         

No "T-R-O"
Only one "S"

posted September 15, 2006 08:16 PM         

AEHIILLLNNNSY
CEEEEEEGGHILLLMNNS

If so...
Then you share about a 37% commonality or compatibility that I can see so far. That ratio will change of course as more words are found.
Here are "some" of the words you share assuming I have the two names correct:

ells he heil hell hen hi hill hills his
I ill in inn is isle lei lens lie lien lies
line linen linens lines nil Nile nine
nines sell she shell shill shin shine
sill sin sine

AEHIILLLNNNSY
has separate from CEEEEEEGGHILLLMNNS
the following which can negate any of the common between you two negatives.
SANE SANELY SHY EASILY EASY ELAN ALLIES
HEAL HEALS LILY LILIES NAY SAY SEAL SHALL
SILLY SHINY HALE

CEEEEEEGGHILLLMNNS has here some that AEHIILLLNNNSY
does not have which again can negate some negative words you share.
SEEN SHEEN SIGH SILENCE SINCE SMILE
GEM GLEE LENIENCE SEE SEEMING SEEING
SIGN CHI SING CHIMES NICE

There are some not so happy words, but I am not sure what you are
looking for so except for ones I found that you both have in common
I have not listed any uncomfortable words you each have only as individuals.

posted September 16, 2006 04:18 AM         

I have actually tried to lexigram my own, but I suspect it is biased and skewed, because I do have an intent, and didn't allow words to form as they come. I got frustrated (a little) when some alphabets were missing, and others had too many repititions.
(one phrase I got was: He is my angel; She is his angel)

Kamilla, I resonate to your lexi, they all apply, except ham and cheese; clean glass, which I have not understood. Every thing else is spot on. And they are what's going on at the moment. Thank you.

fayte, thank you for your very detailed and comprehensive post. I was also frustrated by lack of 'O'; I find sentences hard to form otherwise. But is it possible to add an alphabet in brackets

Yes, those are the two names. you are astute

Yes, you're right it can be both or balanced.
We're both Librans and our positive/negative traits are enhanced with each other.

Also, can I ask if lets say names have a NO in them, does that mean it's a no for everything? Like if there is the word LOVE, and there is a NO, must the NO be used, or can it be ignored

posted September 18, 2006 03:42 PM         

Thank you for the corrections. You are definitely a lexigram mentor around here so I am happy to get any input from you. Obviously, I get too excited and carried away If you could look into my lexigram below I would really appreciate it

Atlenta

I am SO glad you found it helpful. I know, ham n'cheese was kind of goofy...lol... but I thought I'll throw it in for a slight chance of any personal significance. For instance, in my relationship lexigram I have "car loan" I suppose it could be suitable for married couple but we are pretty far from the stage of buying cars together...lol. However, at the time of our first date my car was in the shop and I was driving a "loaner"

I beleive that according to Linda you don't have to include NO in positive statements but you can use it to reverse negative ones. I think she said that the presence of word NO in the lexigram means that the person might be accused of something negative but NOT guilty.

I agree that "wishful thinking" syndrome can interfere with objectivity. SO....if you have a minute may be you can look into mine

III AAAAAA U O J MMMM C LLLL G H N KK R V

I see some really nice things here like LOVING, CHARMING, CARING, MAGIC, LUCK, AMOUR, GAIN, MOVING IN,GIVING,OUR,JOIN,RING,KARMIC,HARMONIC, HUG

.....and some really bad things like KILL, GUN, JAIL, CRIMINAL, HARM, IMMORAL but, I guess, that's where NO comes in.

posted September 18, 2006 04:59 PM         

Kamilla,

Is that 2 names as well?

(I am a complete novice, so pardon me, fayte would do it better )

I am loving our arm
An ankh
I am moving in - Join him on a journ
Cling on, go on hills
No killings nor harm in him.
I am caring.
Mum, i am okay, no joking.
Hug mum, ring him; ring mum, hug him.
Karmic Goal

posted September 18, 2006 07:45 PM         

Ok...
First off I should say this:

Alenta....
I did a COMPARISON of the TWO names not a blending.

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That means words you each have as individuals but do not share.

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Then I gave you a few words you have in common & as individuals.

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When one BLENDS the two people's names one gets a partially false reading if you count all the words including the ones you can only get as individuals.

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Union words are Those are words you two ONLY have together, never in common as individuals or separately.

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So there is a big difference between a UNION Lexigram ©, a (Compatibility Lexigram ©), and a RELATIONSHIP LEXIGRAM©

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posted September 18, 2006 07:54 PM         

LOVING, CHARMING, CARING, MAGIC, LUCK, AMOUR, GAIN, MOVING IN,GIVING,OUR,JOIN,RING,KARMIC,HARMONIC, HUG

KILL, GUN, JAIL, CRIMINAL, HARM, IMMORAL NO

posted September 18, 2006 08:02 PM         

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I am loving our arm
An ankh
I am moving in - Join him on a journ
Cling on, go on hills
No killings nor harm in him.
I am caring.
Mum, i am okay, no joking.
Hug mum, ring him; ring mum, hug him.
Karmic Goal.

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Very good!

But you do not have any "S" or "Y".

See bolded letters for errors.

I see too many folks leaving mistakes.
Example:
I have repeatedly asked Lotus (and others too) to be honest lexigrammers and set added letters off correctly and not hide letters added.

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PLEASE DO NOT HIDE LETTERS that were ADDED and were not letters found in the source word/name/phrase/date...etcetera.

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~EXPECT A MIRACLE~

I AM A RAM, MARIE
CLEAR EACH MATE
A CIRCLE MIRACLE
A TRAMP LIE CLEARED
A MIXED TRIAL LIED
RAILED MA, RA
A ACE PIRATE
A REPTILE MEAL
MA-RA ARE A MIRACLE
A RADICAL IDEA
A DEAL MADE

LET EACH, A EAR ERECT

"EXPECT A MIRACLE"

TIME, IT ME MITE

TIME

DEEP PAIN

PEACE TRAIN

MA-RA AT ALTAR, ALTER THE RACE
DRACO PEACE PACT-RE-IN-ACT

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My big thing is people who sneak and add letters not found in the word/name/phrase, being Lexigrammed.
By hiding the added letters, I mean like Lotus does,(and some others do it too, even Linda did it!) this"ADDING" letters but hiding them in the resulting Lexigram, and by NOT setting them off as one should; (E) or (e), Or like this; APPLe
with the actual letters in upper case and the added ones in lower case.
MOST folks I think honestly make mistakes. But some do it intentionally, as Lotus herself freely admits doing.
This is unfair to those of us who do not cheat and hide letters to make our lexigrams look better.
But if one does do their Lexigramming in lower case, the added letters, if any can still be set apart thusly; (A) or (a).
The big thing is do not sneak and hide letters!If you want to add them, fine! But do not hide your added letters please.

Sadly I have noticed that too many of the so called professional Lexigrammers with sites
charging $250 or more,(some call it a donation, but it is a charge because you will not get anything from them without paying$$$) have many errors in their Lexigramming examples. I wonder how many of their clients never realized this and paid dearly for Lexigrams full of errors.

posted September 18, 2006 08:06 PM         

Please tell me what the two names have letter wise as individuals, not a blending please.

posted September 18, 2006 09:02 PM         

Atlenta,

It was great. Especially, "karmic goal" and "no killing, no harm in him". Great way to put it . I missed "e" too, it would add a lot more words. Of course, now I see that we both were "going about it the wrong way" so to speak

Fayte

posted September 19, 2006 05:46 AM         

What does it mean if we share the same words?

ells he heil hell hen hi hill hills his
I ill in inn is isle lei lens lie lien lies
line linen linens lines nil Nile nine
nines sell she shell shill shin shine
sill sin sine

From his lexigram,

SEEN SHEEN SIGH SILENCE SINCE SMILE
GEM GLEE LENIENCE SEE SEEMING SEEING
SIGN CHI SING CHIMES NICE

I see words that describe him well, i.e: silence, lenience. I think I understand him better.

What's the difference between union and comparison, in the context of a relationship?

Woops, I added those alphabets unwittingly. Interestingly, there were a few words that I really wanted to add in there, but the alphabet was not there. I didn't know what it meant..

Correction .. hehe still retained the original meaning.

I am loving our arm
An ankh
I am moving in - Join him on a journ
Cling on, go on a hill
No killing nor harm in him.
I am caring.
Mum, i am ok, no joking.
Hug mum, ring him; ring mum, hug him.
Karmic Goal

Kamilla, is the lexigram about your mum accurate? Because I keep getting mum.. and I the ankh

I think if you add the full names they'd come out with many many more words, especially since all vowels are used! For mine, I added my full names.

posted September 19, 2006 09:22 AM         

You see, according to Linda you are not allowed to use all 5 vowels because then you will have TOO MANY words. I think, she even says that if someone's name (or phrase)has 5 vowels or more than 15 letters all together, it "doesn't want" to be lexigramed.

It is very interesting that you got a positive "Mum" vibe, I didn't notice it. My daughter really likes him and since, of course, I AM Mum, first and foremost, it's an important thing.

Thank you SO much for all your input I think I understand what Fayte means by union and comparison. I'll try to look at yours (and mine) from this perspective. Who knows, may I'll come up with something worthwhile

posted September 19, 2006 10:59 AM         

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You see, according to Linda you are not allowed to use all 5 vowels because then you will have TOO MANY words. I think, she even says that if someone's name (or phrase)has 5 vowels or more than 15 letters all together, it "doesn't want" to be lexigramed.

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Ok my respects to Linda but this is NOT TRUE!
Perhaps if you really believe in the druid thing....and let "them" unnecessarily limit your efforts illogically.
BUT LOGICALLY that is not true.
And I can prove it is not true.
If it were true, than I could not Lexigram any name..especially ones with more than 5 vowels or more than 15 letters.
BUT I CAN! NO PROBLEM!
I never remove letters! Too many vowels? NEVER! And ANY NAME CAN BE LEXIGRAMMED! NO SUCH THING AS A NAME "NOT WANTING TO BE LEXIGRAMMED!" And you CANNOT get most every word! That is impossible! The OED has like a MILLION words!
So as to IMJ instead of SMJEA

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The names are AAAAAAEGIKKLLLMMNOOORVV, and AAACEEGHHIJLLMMMNSTTUW. I used "IMJ" and no middle names because otherwise I would have all 5 vowels.

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I do not see any reason to limit the letters as I explained above.
YOU HAVE THEM...then use them! Otherwise your source word(s), or names are not true and the resulting Lexigram will not be valid either, if you remove what is there to be used.
In fact, if I were to Lexigram the full names...
of:
The names are AAAAAAEGIKKLLLMMNOOORVV, and AAACEEGHHIJLLMMMNSTTUW FIRST I would also want the MIDDLE names! If I were doing a FULL name Lexigram of ANY kind.
I would ADD the name IMJ to it because that is one of his names!
If it were a name like William, I would add BILL or Billy if he used that too.
I knew a man who wanted "math" to be in his lexigram.
He did not have a letter "H" in his birth name.
I said...ok so what is it your parents called you?
He said, "CHIP". I said, "there is your needed "H"...CHIP.
Where is the logic in removing letters one has and then as many do, adding letters one does not have? That invalidates the resulting Lexigram. It would no longer be completely based on the source word name etcetera.

Ok...continued next post. Posting glitching.

posted September 19, 2006 11:00 AM         

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For comparison you can use full names, right?

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You need the two people's names. (or each person in a family or group's name)
Full names are better than only one each.
For example:

ROMEO
JULIET

Yes one can do them simply like that.
However, by using their FULL NAMES...
Ideally doing it in ITALIAN...(since the characters were Italian)...

ROMEO MONTAGUE/JULIET CAPULET
Together and only together, as a Union, acquire;
TRAGIC ROMANCE
If one adds their Compatibilty, they get;
A TRAGIC ROMANCE, as they share the word A.
One would get a much more in depth and accurate Lexigram compatibility/comparison, or a union Lexigram on the two of them.
See above for my explanation of the differences between a union and a compatibility form of Lexigram.

One would in the case of these two only add AND, as in ROMEO AND JULIET when talking of the PLAY, not them as individuals. That goes for adding Mr.Mister, Mrs.Missus, Ms, and so forth.
Those are titles not names.
Oh yes you can do them with the titles added but that is not them alone, but them and the title.
President Abraham Lincoln would have a different Lexigram result than Abraham Lincoln.
Mrs. Or Missus Lincoln a different result than Mary Todd Lincoln.

Yes Lexigrams DO WORK in languages other than English.
AVE MARIA, GRATIA PLENA, DOMINUS TECUM
(“Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.”)

can be anagrammed to become

VIRGO SERENA, PIA, MUNDA ET IMMACULATA
(“Virgin serene, holy, pure, and immaculate.”)
While that was an anagram example, Lexigrams of course can also be done in other languages.

When Pontius Pilate asked “what is truth”, the answer was contained in an anagram in Latin of the words he uttered. The letters in “quid est veritas” can be rearranged to form “vir est qui adest” - “it is the man before thee”

An anagram is always a Lexigram, but a Lexigram is not an Anagram, unless it is first an Anagram also.

posted September 19, 2006 11:40 AM         

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What does it mean if we share the same words?

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ANSWER:

It means these are words you share. You BOTH HAVE THEM IN YOUR NAMES and ALSO as TWO INDIVIDUAL people.
SO YOU SHARE or HAVE same things/aspects..."in common."=COMPATIBLE.

Depending on the descriptiveness of the word, it can reflect things/ways you two are ALIKE TOGETHER, as a couple; yet also as individuals.

Like the word NICE. If you both have it in your own individual names, then you also have it together. So one might have sweet and the other not have it. So that word would not be a compatibility word.
So there are words only he can get from his name and words only you can get from your name.

These will only reflect you each as individuals. and not anything you have in common. Which leads us to your next question.

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What's the difference between union and comparison, in the context of a relationship?

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WORDS YOU BOTH HAVE AS INDIVIDUALS AND SHARE ARE YOU COMPATIBILITY INDICATORS.
UNION WORDS ARE WHAT YOU CREATE TOGETHER,
AND WORDS YOU ONLY HAVE AS SEPARATE INDIVIDUALS ARE ABOUT YOU EACH AS UNIQUE INDIVIDUALS.
RELATIONSHIP WORDS ARE YOUR UNION AND COMPATIBILITY WORDS. Generally for committed couples not just dating couples.

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Oh, and what's exactly the meaning of ankh? Is that a symbol of life (womb)?

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The ankh (pronounced 'ahnk', symbol ☥ was the Egyptian hieroglyphic character that stood for the word ʿnḫ, which means life.

for more see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ankh

posted September 19, 2006 12:15 PM         

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Oh, this is wonderful. Thank you! The 5 vowels / 15 letters rule felt very restrictive and limiting to me. And in regards to TOO many words... well, if you really tune into it you will only see what you need to see, right?
Can't wait to hear more

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Definitely!
Even if you have a 1,000 words or more, you will still only use a small part of them in a resulting Lexigram.
ONLY words that "RESONATE" to your mind or intuition will jump out and say,
"Use me!".
So unless you try to use all of them...which is generally ridiculous....
Then yes...
Only what is Relevant will jump or stand out if you let it happen.
To FORCE a Lexigram to say what you desire rather than looking at the words and letting the relevent ones catch your mind's eye as you meditate over them...reading them.
Forcing means: ADDING LETTERS.
You are trying to FORCE the LEXIGRAM TO SAY SOMETHING THAT IS SIMPLY NOT THERE....No matter how much you want it to be , it is not valid! That is deluding one's self.
Let the words you HAVE speak to you.
The "right words", even on a large list, will reveal themselves and the rest will be ignored.

posted September 19, 2006 12:53 PM         

I'll work on my lexigrams with all my newly acquired knowledge and hopefully you will be kind enough to check it out at some point Of course, I would love for you to look into that but that might be asking too much. I mean, you already spent a lot of time on this thread.

posted September 19, 2006 01:28 PM         

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So...would that be cheating if I decide not to use my middle name in lexigram.....?

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No...it would not be cheating at least not anyone but yourself of a fuller meaning.

It is perfectly OK to only use the names you go by.
But for a more complete life path, or birth destiny Lexigram type result, or reading, the full names are more complete as to the resulting Lexigram's meaning. Dates too can be included in certain life path Lexigrams.

Then there is the issue of Married/Maiden names.
Comparisons between them, Or each separate or hyphenated will tell you where you are at each point of your life/relationship(s).
For example:
Birth name:
JANE ALEXIA DOE
Used name:
JANE DOE
or JANEY(her nickname) DOE
Married name:
JANE ALEXIA SMITH
or JANE SMITH
or JANEY(her nickname) SMITH
Maiden/Married Hyphenated name:
JANE ALEXIA DOE-SMITH
or
JANE DOE-SMITH
or
JANEY(her nickname)DOE-SMITH

All these permutations on her name will give radically different words and the Lexigram results will be different also.

If she changes her name:
As in changing JANE to JAYNE.
Suddenly she has a letter "Y" which she did not have before unless she used her nickname JANEY.
Maybe she decides to turn ALEXIA into ALEXANDRA.
She loses her letter "I"-but picks up the letters "D"-"N"-"R"-and aquires a third letter "A".

So name changes/nicknames/middle names. etcetera; can make a big impact on the resulting Lexigram for a person's name.

posted September 19, 2006 01:36 PM         

Kamilla
I removed your actual names from my post and scrambled them.
Is this ok?
The scrambled names are AAAAAAEGIKKLLLMMNOOORVV, and AAACEEGHHIJLLMMMNSTTUW