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juniperb
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posted March 16, 2008 09:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
Knowflakes,

Of late ( and over time)here has been a lot of questions regarding "lexigrams rules" and how they should be adapted.

Since this has been brought up again, I thought every one would like to comment and find a way to work together.

This is Lindaland; created by Randall in honor of Linda Goodman. Most of us are here because of Linda and her teachings.

Of late, we have even been honored by her son`Michael visiting us. Because it is Lindaland and Linda`s home on the net.

With that said, why not adapt Linda Goodmans lexigram standards? It would be staying with the premise of Lindaland and the efforts Randall has set forth in respecting her name and works..

That`s not to say one couldn`t work branch out and lexigram differently but would provide a solid rule of thumb standard for lexigraming. That basic standard would set a guideline and eliminate the misunderstandings caused by so many different personal rules.

1. Does it make logical sense we adapt Linda`s standards?

2. If you disagree , why? What would you offer instead?

juniperb


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Randall
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posted March 16, 2008 10:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with posting Linda's rules as a way to convey her ideas to newbies or to refresh memories; however, I am against restricting others from doing it their way. For example, Linda said to set off letters that are not in the original word and to do that sparingly. If 26t (as an example) wishes not to follow that rule, that's her prerogative. We can't restrict freedom of expression. Linda said to question even the things she had come to know as Truth and to run them through one's own filter. So, bottom line, no, I do not agree.

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juniperb
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posted March 16, 2008 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
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We can't restrict freedom of expression.

Absolutely!

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I agree with posting Linda's rules as a way to convey her ideas to newbies or to refresh memories; however, I am against restricting others from doing it their way.

In essence, "respect". Which lexigrams to SEE

Thanks Randall!


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26taurus
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posted March 16, 2008 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
Great topic and questions, juni.

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With that said, why not adapt Linda Goodmans lexigram standards? It would be staying with the premise of Lindaland and the efforts Randall has set forth in respecting her name and works..

That makes very good sense!

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1. Does it make logical sense we adapt Linda`s standards?

Yes!

Might I add, to clarify some things with other's here that:

I had always thought, for the most part, I was following Linda's rules. I didnt realize I had been so horribly screwing them up. I dont have her rules memorized, but I did not go off on some other unbeaten path when I made a lexigram or tried to buck Linda's system or something.

It has been awhile since I have done one. One of my old ones that was recently bumped, had some errors in it and I accidentally did not bracket off a letter or two of them - i'm not sure. I didnt really care either and never went back to change it. I thought I'd let my "mistakes" hang out for all to see as I didnt think it was a big deal and was not ashamed of them. I was not trying to sneak letters in as was accused of me and others who make mistakes or miss things while creating a lexigram.


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2. If you disagree , why? What would you offer instead?

I am more than happy to lexigram the way Linda taught. I thought in essence, that is what I had been doing.

I capitalize the letters as recommended and in the past have tried to lexigram phrases or words with a limited number of vowels. I dont recall what her rule was on that right now.

If I have added a letter - which i tried to do only SPARINGLY if at all - I would bracket it off. UNLESS, I forgot to or didnt realize I added another letter.

Thanks for bringing this subject to light. Even though I dont lexigram much anymore, recently I got caught up in a debate about how they should be done and the rules of how to go about them. Things got blown out of proportion and now it seems as though I have been trying to be some kind of Rebel Lexigrammer, when I dont even lexigram anymore.

I tried to make myself and my points very clear. Though apparently I stepped on some toes in the process. For that, I am truly sorry.

p.s. Have a lovely day, juni.

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26taurus
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posted March 16, 2008 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
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If 26t (as an example) wishes not to follow that rule, that's her prerogative.

Thanks for using me as an example. Read the post above and understand me.

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We can't restrict freedom of expression.

Hopefully, that statement really and truly does apply to everyone across the board.

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Linda said to question even the things she had come to know as Truth and to run them through one's own filter. So, bottom line, no, I do not agree.

I've run it across my filter and think her way of lexigramming works just fine.

But because I am not Linda, my lexigrams will have their own flair to them, obviously. Mistakes will still be made as I am not perfect either. No one is.

And because a lexigram may come out looking like someone isnt following someone else's rules doesnt mean it is on purpous. We all have our "own Way" because we are individuals.

I dont want to be told what anyones rules are. I learned about lexigramming in Star Signs. I have given it a shot in the past and thought I did a decent job. The whole "rule issue" is really not something I am interested in strictly following, at least. I am not starting a business doing lexigrams, so it isnt as important to me to. I did them for fun and dont feel like I need "THE RULES", whom ever's they may be, shoved in my face.

I know how to lexigram. Linda in her book, Star Signs taught me how. Unfortunately, I will mess them up in the process once in awhile just like LEXX says that Linda did.

No one is perfect. And I know how to rearrange letters to make words, though they way i do it may not always fall in line with another's way. I'm sorry. If we all had the same style, things would be pretty boring around here.

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We can't restrict freedom of expression.

Exactly!

Thank you.

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Randall
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posted March 16, 2008 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
You should run for office. Do you or don't you agree?

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26taurus
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posted March 16, 2008 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
Something I find odd is that you always gave me a thumbsup and liked my lexigrams in the past, Randall. You also complimented me on my ability to create them before and were "blown away" by them numerous times. Or so you said.

Now it seems - even though I havent even done one in quite some time - that you disagree with how I have gone about doing them? As evidenced, mainly in another thread.

I should add that, when I was a Moderator in this forum, I deleted a few of my own threads. So looking back we wont get to see many of the ones I did.

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26taurus
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posted March 16, 2008 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
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You should run for office. Do you or don't you agree?

Read the posts above and you will SEE!

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Randall
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posted March 16, 2008 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
I never said I disagreed with how you did Lexigrams. How did you come to that conclusion? I clearly stated where I stand on the subject. You, however, agreed with Juniperb in your first response (you try to do them Linda's way and feel that should be the way of Lindaland) and then stated the opposite in your second response (no one should tell you how to Lexigram). Which is it? And who should we blame for your deleted Lexigrams? ??? Exactly.

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"There is no use trying," said Alice; "one can't believe impossible things." "I dare say you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was your age, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." Lewis Carroll

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silverstone
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posted March 16, 2008 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverstone     Edit/Delete Message
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Randall
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posted March 16, 2008 10:22 AM
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I agree with posting Linda's rules as a way to convey her ideas to newbies or to refresh memories; however, I am against restricting others from doing it their way. For example, Linda said to set off letters that are not in the original word and to do that sparingly. If 26t (as an example) wishes not to follow that rule, that's her prerogative. We can't restrict freedom of expression. Linda said to question even the things she had come to know as Truth and to run them through one's own filter. So, bottom line, no, I do not agree.

I second that

I do not agree either, Juniperb. I think everyone should feel welcomed to lexigram in any way they want. I don't think it should be Linda's way only. I also do not see anything wrong with other's fixing errors in lexigraming. I also do not think it's rude to fix someone's errors when they post a lexigram on the boards for everyone to see, even if they didn't ask to have errors corrected. We do not own the threads nor the forum, etc... I also think most people here are adult enough to acknowledge and perhaps understand that there's a possibility that there are many different ways to do a Lexigram. We don't have to agree with everyone's ways, but we can sit and watch.


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Between the woods and frozen lake
The darkest evening of the year....
The only other sound's the sweep
Of easy wind and downy flake.

The woods are lovely, dark, and deep,
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
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lotusheartone
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posted March 16, 2008 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
Do you feel everyone's spelling errors
should be pointed out, too?

Can't we let the word druids have a little fun
and

LOve and Magic!?

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silverstone
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posted March 16, 2008 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverstone     Edit/Delete Message
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Do you feel everyone's spelling errors
should be pointed out, too?

If someone wants to point them out, I think is ok.

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lotusheartone
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posted March 16, 2008 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
I think it's rude, just my onion!

been there, done this already!

I see both sides, and both have merit

but there is never a need to play a
victum role...
and make it about ones-elf, and everything
they've been through..

every time there is conflict

it's getting very old!

LOve to ALL. ...

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26taurus
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posted March 16, 2008 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
Randall, you used me as an example. I have been pointing out that my lexigrams may have come out looking as if I wasnt following Linda's ruled. I was NOT purposely trying NOT TO and have ALSO not been trying to follow them to the letter either! So I dont need someone telling me how I should be doing them.

I'm just as free to express as anyone else, right?

So, it's not about me and some imaginary "prerogative".

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I never said I disagreed with how you did Lexigrams. How did you come to that conclusion?

Because of what you have been saying to me in posts.

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silverstone,

"I think everyone should feel welcomed to lexigram in any way they want. I don't think it should be Linda's way only."

Good! Tell that to LEXX!

It doesnt have to be only her way either.

If people dont bracket off a letter - that should not annoy her. Maybe others are using their freedom of expression and they have every right to!

"I also do not see anything wrong with other's fixing errors in lexigraming."

That is your good opinion. Others feel differntly! What is wrong with that??? No one should take that personally.

"I also do not think it's rude to fix someone's errors when they post a lexigram on the boards for everyone to see, even if they didn't ask to have errors corrected. We do not own the threads nor the forum, etc... "

silverstone, did you notice I said that exact same thing in the other thread???????

I already pointed that out. I wont be posting lexigrams here. Nuff said!

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silverstone
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posted March 16, 2008 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverstone     Edit/Delete Message
Um, who does this:

quote:
but there is never a need to play a
victum role...
and make it about ones-elf, and everything
they've been through..

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lotusheartone
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posted March 16, 2008 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
It's very clear

I've been through this and that
and on and on and on...

but says they do not want pity
yet they drag all these things up every time

oh poor me, the victum!

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silverstone
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posted March 16, 2008 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverstone     Edit/Delete Message
26T,

quote:

That is your good opinion. Others feel differntly! What is wrong with that??? No one should take that personally.

26t, it's not a private forum. I think the approach is what counts. For example, I don't think one should say, "what were you thinking when you were doing that Lexigram, you have errors everywhere, I'll be pointing them out"

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Between the woods and frozen lake
The darkest evening of the year....
The only other sound's the sweep
Of easy wind and downy flake.

The woods are lovely, dark, and deep,
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep. ~Robert Frost

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posted March 16, 2008 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverstone     Edit/Delete Message
Lotus, I got it, I thought you were refering to me at first.

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lotusheartone
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posted March 16, 2008 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
Oh, if it was you, you'd know it! LOL

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26taurus
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posted March 16, 2008 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
"I think the approach is what counts."

Thank you silverstone.
YES, exactly.

off to work. Have a nice night ladies.

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posted March 16, 2008 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverstone     Edit/Delete Message
LOL, Lotus

So do you agree or disagree? What's your opinion on the topic?

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Between the woods and frozen lake
The darkest evening of the year....
The only other sound's the sweep
Of easy wind and downy flake.

The woods are lovely, dark, and deep,
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep. ~Robert Frost

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26taurus
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posted March 16, 2008 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
one more thing

"it's not a private forum."

Yes, silverstone. I know that. I never said it was. In fact, I pointed out that it wasnt and I was aware of that fact.

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silverstone
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posted March 16, 2008 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverstone     Edit/Delete Message
26Taurus,

Why don't you just face the fact that you are stubborn as hell? LOL, kidding...just kidding Have a nice day at work. And I am not a lady...lol

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26taurus
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posted March 16, 2008 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
now Im late.

"And who should we blame for your deleted Lexigrams? ??? Exactly." - Randall

Did I ask you to blame anyone??? It was something I was pointing out for another reason entirely. Not because I wanted to blame anyone else.

Those threads are gone by my own hand! Big deal!


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26taurus
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posted March 16, 2008 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks silverstone. And sorry for thinking you were a woman. oops.

(a lexigram: )

SILVERSTONE

SIR

How'd I do?

Have a nice night, sir.

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