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raj_105_2001
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posted February 03, 2002 12:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for raj_105_2001     Edit/Delete Message
Fate is Feat, and Feat is Fate.

It should have been in Lexigrams, but I thought it is more appropriate here.

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posted February 03, 2002 01:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message
feat1 (ft)
n.
A notable act or deed, especially an act of courage; an exploit.
An act of skill, endurance, imagination, or strength; an achievement.

fate (ft)
n.
The supposed force, principle, or power that predetermines events.
The inevitable events predestined by this force.
A final result or consequence; an outcome.
Unfavorable destiny; doom.
Fates Greek & Roman Mythology. The three goddesses, Clotho, Lachesis, and Atropos, who control human destiny. Used with 'the'

Hmmm Raj... This is interesting ! This makes me think that the definition, "Unfavorable destiny; doom." for the word *fate* is another on of those convoluted meanings to a word.

If a *feat* is a *good* thing, then it seems so too should be *fate* - Like, if we are successful in meeting our chosen or agreed to *destiny* in any lifetime, our *fate*, then we have accomplished a *feat* - a good thing ?

~Princess

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Nephthys
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posted February 03, 2002 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nephthys     Edit/Delete Message
I do believe in Fate & Destiny ~ I just do ~ it's innate, inside of me

" Your Soul knows the Geography of your Destiny. Your Soul alone has the Map of your Future, therefore, you can trust this indirect, oblique side of YourSelf. If you do, it will take you where you need to go, but more important, it will teach you a kindness of rhythm in your journey." ~from Anam Cara, A Book of Celtic Wisdom

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posted February 03, 2002 01:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Nephy~ I love that book I'm so glad you told me about it and, I agree ... everyone has a destiny

If *fate* does exist, I think we write it ourselves, not some etherial force - it would be those things that balance out our own bad karma. The etherial force might insure we meet that *fate* but WE wrote it by our own actions and or misdeeds.

I've always struggled with believing bad things are written in stone It just doesn't *feel* right to me.

~Princess

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posted February 04, 2002 08:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for raj_105_2001     Edit/Delete Message
I think the Lexigram means we are 'fated' to perform a feat. Unfortunately, we are also given the 'choice' of not to perform it. Yet we also keep believing (thanks to Mass Negative Programming) that fate's sole purpose is to make us suffer. Often Nobody refers to Fate, when he succeeds. But when he fails, he invariably blames it on his poor luck ie fate. Right from my childhood, I have always believed everyone has a unique mission in his life, and he will always get whatever he needs to fulfill the mission - I always thought fate must be positive - Thank God, I didn't succumb to Negative Programming.

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posted February 04, 2002 11:45 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Perhaps if we changed out attitude towards FATE...FATE would change 'Her' attitude towards us.

What would happend if we actually tried to work with FATE instead of trying to run in the opposite direction? If we quit being scared!

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posted February 05, 2002 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nephthys     Edit/Delete Message
I forgot to come back to this thread!

I believe that we chose our lessons before incarnation; including our difficult or hard lessons.
So, Princess, when you said "bad things written in stone".......well, we chose the difficult bad experiences, to learn and grow from them. We might not always understand why we have to go through such difficult things, or why people suffer, but each Soul *chooses* his/her life path and the experiences.
I believe this as sure as I am that my cat Yoda is black!
But yes, we always have Free Will. At the same time, our Soul, Our Intuition, Our Higher S-elf, "guides" us.........to the place we intended to take in this particular incarnation in the Universe.

Yivy, my response to your statement, is what's wrong with having a positive attitude? If only people would start each day fresh and new; there is so much beauty out there, if only we *try* to see and SMILE


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posted February 05, 2002 11:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Nephy~ I believe one can balance some karmic debts without having to go thru the difficulties, heartbreak or hardship of it. I think thru enLightenment we can recognize, or reMember on a Soul level, what our karmic lessons are before we begin the *drama* - then with *looking in the mirror* and seeing what was once in us, even grieving and feeling the due remorse, comes understanding, and the will and ability to love and forgive *first* - before the drama begins ... I could be wrong, but from what I understand, Jesus agrees with me

~Princess

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posted February 06, 2002 12:30 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Nephy...that's right, Yoda is a black kitty. I love black kitties..
they always seem to have the most intense green eyes.

Oh, I meant not to think of fate as evil, but as a good thing. What if fates wants you to have a wonderful life. If you run from it, then you can't receive the gift. What if you are 'fated' to live forever???

I don't think of fate as something written in concrete. I think we should learn to work hand-in-hand with fate. Exercising free will, but not over looking any good possibilities.

Sorry, was that more confusing

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posted February 06, 2002 10:50 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Nephy~ Yoda is black? How awesome - my favorite Kitty-color is black - well, it's my favorite Dog-color too

~Princess

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posted February 07, 2002 08:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nephthys     Edit/Delete Message
Yep, he's a black little boy-cat

Yes, Of course what you said is true too, Princess

Yivy, I have no desire to be Physically Immortal After I cross over, I'll visit you from the Other Side though

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posted February 08, 2002 12:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Don't 'spook' my husband...I'll never hear the end of it

Might put you to work around the house though....no lazy ghosts just hanging around. How are you at dusting???

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posted February 08, 2002 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nephthys     Edit/Delete Message

Ok, I'll try to remember. Remind me in about 40 years before I cross over.

I am a clean and neat freak so I am good at dusting. I'll also make sure only good positive Souls/Ghosts hang out there (if that's what you meant).

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posted February 09, 2002 03:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message
And Yivy, I'm sure Nephthys will do an excellent job of minding the critters and keeping them out of harm's way.

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posted February 10, 2002 12:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message
YIPPEE!!! Nephy, you're hired! And great idea about the animals, VR. They won't mind as long as they get their dinner. And Nephy, being a ghost you can watch them while I'm on a vacation, plus scare the burglers away. Then 'flit' to where I am and back.

Not that I'm rushing you or anything, but..........

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posted February 10, 2002 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nephthys     Edit/Delete Message

Like I said, remind me in several years!

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Randall
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posted February 11, 2002 10:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Very enlightening thoughts, Raj!

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posted February 11, 2002 07:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message
I believe that we have control over our FATE...it's called Free Will..I am not afraid of FATE......


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posted February 12, 2002 07:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Sometimes, those Free-will Tinker Toys get in the way of the choices of the Soul.

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posted February 12, 2002 11:52 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Soma~ Agreed... just like we have control over our FEATS. But like Randall said, with our Free Will, we can certainly prolong the process of reaching our Soul-goal with those tinker toys

I don't think anyone should fear their FATE ... only the messes we make along the way to it

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posted February 12, 2002 12:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Oh yes i agree whole heartedly ~is that really a word~ ~laughing~ That's why I WILL BE HERE A LONG LONG TIME
But i feel I am getting close...I definitely know I remember more this time around.....this time I am just walking off into the sunset and start again until I get it right.
~Soma~

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posted February 14, 2002 01:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Just by being here and trying, we are getting it right.

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posted February 14, 2002 11:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message
How true! Such beautiful words of wisdom.

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posted February 15, 2002 08:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Because the process of Life is just in the trying.

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posted February 15, 2002 10:40 PM           Edit/Delete Message
You are so RIGHT, Randall...even if we don't get it the first hundred times...don't ever give up.

KEEP TRYING

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