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Lioness
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posted October 24, 2011 07:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does the letter G have any specific meaning?

I keep meeting people the the letter G in the first or last name.. Or both..

These ave been my most intense and difficult relationships..

Im to the point, that I dont even want to talk to anymore G's..

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posted October 27, 2011 01:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's pretty amazing, but I'm not sure what it would mean.

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posted October 27, 2011 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
That's pretty amazing, but I'm not sure what it would mean.

Thanks!!!!!!!

You soo teased me! I thought I would FINALY have an answer to this life long question

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posted October 28, 2011 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Letter G
Masonic G.....
for God and Geometry

Masonic G in Freemasonry

The Masonic letter G reminds us that our every act is done in the sight of the Great Architect of the Universe.

"By letters four and science five, this “G” aright doth stand, in due Art and Proportion; you have your answer, friend.”

What are the "letters four"? It is believed that they stand for "YHWH", the name of the Great Architect of the Universe (pronounced "Yahway". (sometimes pronounced Jehovah) in the ancient Hebrew language, from which the Bible was translated:

Which is the 5th science? Geometry.

The Letter G stands for "Geometry", which is the mathematical science upon which Architecture and Masonry were founded.

When did the letter G become part of the Square and Compass? No one knows exactly, but it is believed to be somewhere between 1730 and 1768, here in the United States. The "G" is not used in the center of the square and compasses in all jurisdictions around the world.


Letter G

In Hebrew, the language our Bible was originally written in, it is called Gheemel (or Gimel) and has a numerical value of 3.

Throughout history, we see reference to the number 3 when we speak of the Supreme Architect of the Universe...no matter which language we speak!

Gimel (in slightly different forms) is the 3rd letter of many Semitic languages including Phoenician, Greek, Aramaic, Hebrew, and Syriac.

Phonecian: Gimel (11th century BCE)

Greek: Gamma (9th century BCE)

Aramaic: Gamal (800 BCE to 600 CE) (800 years Before Common Era
to 600 years after Common Era)

Hebrew: Gimel (3rd century BCE)

Syriac: Gomal / Gamal (2nd century BCE)


G Throughout the Centuries

B.C.E. means "Before Common Era". The Common Era (C.E.), also known as the Christian Era and sometimes as the Current Era, is the period beginning with the year 1 onwards.

The term is used for a system of reckoning years that is chronologically equivalent to the Anno Domini (A.D.), which is Latin for "In the year of our Lord".

Therefore, the 3rd letter of the Phonecian alphabet, "gimel", was in use 11 centuries Before the Common Era, which is 8 centuries before the Hebrew language...give or take a few hundred years.

Why give or take a few hundred years? While scholars who study languages are very thorough; we have to remember that they have very little from which to study.

Much of our knowledge of ancient languages comes from the study of hieroglyphics carved into stone and the subsequent attempt to determine which time frame they were carved; from mummies and their accompanying sarcophagi (carved wooden coffins), etc.

Note, however that while the letter G is the 7th letter in the English, Latin and Romanic alphabets, in Russian, and some others, it is 4th; in the Arabic the 5th, and in the Ethiopian language, the 20th.

These languages are much "younger" than the "ancient" languages and most, therefore, are propagations (changes that occurred) to the ancient languages throughout the centuries due to many factors.

The letter G in Freemasonry stands for both the Great Architect of the Universe and Geometry....or, to be more technically correct, it stands for Geometry under the Great Architect of the Universe.

Just as the Supreme Architect of the Universe watches the revolutions of the planets and stars in the sky, so does HE, who placed each of us here, watch each of our movements, hears not only our words, but our thoughts, as well ...and it is to HIM that we are ultimately responsible.


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The Letter G
by Bro. Mark Dwor

This paper is based on an article written by Harry Carr, P.A.G.D.C., P.M., Secretary of the Quatuor Coronati Lodge, 1963, in Volume 76 of the Transaction of that Lodge, page 170.
The Letter G is one of those odd parts of masonic history that does not seem to follow a predictable path. The research that I have done and the research that Harry Carr has published indicate that it is an example of the unruly nature of symbols that have either outlived their original usefulness or have been somehow changed into having new meaning. In fact, the issue is so potentially confusing that Harry Carr's article ended off with the following postscript on page 195;
Doubtless there are many other variations of practice and interpretation that have arisen during the centuries. All are interesting, and some are surprising. This essay was written in an attempt to ascertain whence the practices arose and how they developed. It was not designed to show that a particular symbol or a certain form of the words is right, and that others are therefore wrong. There is a great need for a proper tolerance in such matters. We may regret that certain symbols and phrases have tended to disappear from practice, or that their importance and symbolism has been changed or altered far beyond their original significance. Within the vast boundaries of Masonry universal there is room for every shade of interpretation, and I believe the Craft is strengthened and enriched by these variations and by the absence of uniformity.
The real issue about the letter G is not so much where it came from but how it gradually changed its original meaning and how it is that this new meaning has now become the predominant one.
There are two distinct meaning given for the letter G: the first is for Geometry, and the second is for God. This is very clear in the two different versions given for it, as outlined in the Second Degree work. At the end of the Tracing Board lecture in the Second Degree, the following statement occurs, in reference to the seven who make the Lodge perfect:
They have likewise an allusion to the seven liberal arts and sciences, namely grammar, rhetoric, logic, arithmetic, geometry, music and astronomy.
The Tracing Board lecture then concludes with the following:
After our ancient brethren had gained the summit of the winding staircase, they passed into the middle chamber of the temple where their attention was directed to certain Hebrew characters which are depicted in a Fellow Craft Lodge by the letter G, denoting God, the Grand Geometrician of the Universe to whom we must all submit and whom we ought to humbly adore.
There are two charges in the Canadian work, either one of which may be chosen by the Worshipful Master to give the Fellow Craft at this point. In one of the charges, the reference to the G is as follows: "The science of Geometry which is established as a basis of our art." In the other charge, the reference is a follows: "Especially the science of Geometry which is established as the basis of our art. Geometry, or Freemasonry, originally synonymous terms."
It is the originality of Geometry and Freemasonry as synonymous that is without doubt. This can be traced back to documents as early as 1410. It is difficult to assume that the ritual as we now use it was in any way, shape or form contemplated in the 15th century, but the notion of Geometry as being particularly synonymous with Masonry is consistent, and the underlying reason that it got into being part of the regalia or furnishings of the Lodge, and consequently the ritual.
The first time that we see the letter "G" used as anything other than Geometry is in one of the early 18th century English Exposures (Richard), about 1727. This is a vague reference in the catechism to a secondary meaning for the letter G, which had until that time always been described as being in the centre of the Lodge and standing for Geometry. The most specific reference to the letter G having another meaning occurs in a French Exposure of 1744, Le Catéchisme des Francs Maçons, and in outlining how the Entered Apprentice became a Fellow Craft, describes the journey into the Middle Chamber of the Temple with the catechism –

Q. When you entered [the middle chamber] what did you see?
A. A great Light in which I perceived the Letter G.
Q. What does the Letter G signify?
A. God, that is to say DIEU, or one who is greater than you.

It must be remembered that the eighteenth century was a time of great masonic innovation in both the regalia and rituals. What we have from that time is a series of unauthorized rituals, at least up until the latter part of the 18th century, and these are all somewhat suspect; however, the information they contain is relatively consistent.
Another example of masonic innovation in the eighteenth century was the changing of a Two Degree system to a Three Degree system around 1730 in England. To make the Three Degree system, the First Degree which was based on the two pillars of the temple, was basically split into two degrees and the existing Fellow Craft Degree, which was based on the five points of fellowship, became the Third Degree to which was added the Hiramic Legend.
At about the same time, there was a gradual change from the long catechism form and the long lecture forms into a somewhat easier form to deal with, which is the basis of our present ritual work. Remnants, however, of the earlier catechism and lecture forms are still in existence and are still part of our ritual work.
One of the issues that comes up again and again is the relationship between the Blazing Star and the letter G. This Blazing Star is in drawings of the Lodge in some of these exposures, and also crops up in other publications and some of the earlier Floor Cloths or Lodge Cloths that are still extant.
The Blazing Star appears throughout the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries always in the centre of the lodge, and that is where it was drawn. Remember that the Lodge Cloth and the Tracing Boards were still all meant to be looked down upon as being on the floor, not as we would put our present Tracing Boards up on easels, etc. Some of the earlier drawing have the G and the Blazing Star separate, however, gradually these two symbols were incorporated into one and, about the same time, the general usage of G standing for God, and, specifically in the Second Degree, the Grand Geometrician came into play. This latter happened, surprisingly enough, in Europe around the 1750s and not in England until the end of the 18th century. In fact, in some of the English exposures, the letter G was taken to denote "glory, grandeur and geometry." By the end of the eighteenth, beginning of the nineteenth centuries, the letter G, at least as far as English authorities were concerned, was taken to have a symbolic meaning of God as compared to Geometry. It is these two separate notions that are still alive in the rituals as we practice them today in Canadian work.
There is sill a reference to the Blazing Star in our ritual in the First Degree Tracing Board lecture:

The Ornaments are the Mosaic Pavement, the Indented Skirting that surrounds the Pavement, and the Star in the centre.

The Tracing Boards themselves show the relative non-conformity in regard to this matter, because some Tracing Boards from 1801 have the letter G inside a Blazing Star on them, and some Tracing Boards up to the 1840s do not have the letter G or a Blazing Star on them.
There are a number of masonic jewels from about 1760 which have the letter G intertwined with working tools; however, the practice of having the G inside a square and compasses is relatively modern, although it is used in Ireland, as I will note below, for different purposes.
The other issue regarding the letter G is its placement in the lodge. In our particular lodge it is placed on the wall above the Master's chair. In many other lodges in this jurisdiction it is hung from the ceiling. In London and Southern England there is no letter G attached to the wall or hung from the ceiling in Lodge Halls. Once you get further north in England and Scotland, the practice appears to be that the G is attached right to the ceiling or to the wall behind the Master's chair.
In the Scottish ritual lecture known as Middle Chamber Lecture, the final paragraph goes as follows:

My brother, we have now arrived at a place representing the Middle Chamber of King Solomon,s Temple. Behold the letter G suspended in the east; it is the initial letter of geometry, the first and noblest of sciences.

In Ireland, on the other hand, the G is displayed in the lodge room, quite often intertwined with the square and compasses above the Worshipful Master's chair. However, the ritual practice in Ireland is such that the G does not mean God, it does not mean Geometry – very specifically, what it means is the first letter of the Worshipful Master's word.
In Ancient work, as practised in this jurisdiction, the G also stands for both Geometry and God, as outlined in their Second Degree work.
It is hard to draw a conclusion, except to say that the G originally meant Geometry and, gradually, when the new Second Degree was established in the eighteenth century and when the needs of the Craft required, G also came to represent God, although the original geometrical meaning has never disappeared, at least in our work. There is no "A" in the First Degree work to denote the Great Architect, nor is there an "M" or an "H" in the Third Degree work to denote Most High, but somewhere along the line the G started to stand for, not just Geometry, but also the Grand Geometrician of the Universe (God) and that is how our ritual has evolved.
Presented to Centennnial-King George Lodge No. 171 B.C.R. on December 3, 1996 by Bro. Mark Dwor, Education Officer.


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posted October 28, 2011 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow.. Thanks Lexx

I just skimmed it, Im in the middle of cleaning.. SO I WILL be back later to really sit down and read it...


Also.. Tell me what you think of this... I met this lady on line, that says she speaks to angels and can hear/see others Angels.. Not knowing anything at all about me or the G thing with me..
She told me I have 3 Angels with me
Glenn
Gwen
G (another G I forgot the name)
She said they call them self the 3 g's..
I found that really odd, especially since I always met G... people.

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posted October 29, 2011 07:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lioness:
Wow.. Thanks Lexx

I just skimmed it, Im in the middle of cleaning.. SO I WILL be back later to really sit down and read it...


Also.. Tell me what you think of this... I met this lady on line, that says she speaks to angels and can hear/see others Angels.. Not knowing anything at all about me or the G thing with me..
She told me I have 3 Angels with me
Glenn
Gwen
G (another G I forgot the name)
She said they call them self the 3 g's..
I found that really odd, especially since I always met G... people.


Thank you! You're welcome!
Hmmmmm............
Depending on your viewpoints, I may not be the person you want to get answers from concerning angels and people who love them or claim to be in communication with them.
I am not going to elaborate here concerning my personal experiences;
but I generally think of angels, or what folks see as them;
those pretty pretty stereotypical golden and feathered types..........
as deceivers of humanity and or evil;
and the folks deluded by them are in my view not to be trusted, because they serve the deceivers, whether willingly or out of naivete`.
Sorry that was not the answer you wanted or expected.
I will give links to my posts on such if you wish, and or answer any questions you may have on this issue.
Another point of view is that the lady you met online,
DID indeed pick up on things connected to the letter G, but,
whether they were what she thought, ie; angels.....
or something else is the issue.
Many folks misinterpret what they pick up psychically, especially if their view is tainted or flavored by their preconceived concepts of a what a thing is,
based on religion and what they want it to be,
not what it really is.
I would say you possibly have 3 persons, discarnate people around you,
but could be more possibly your own past live's identities awakening within you;
or your connection to God within,
aspects of your Meta-soul trying to consciously connect with you;
but not any angels or such.
The 3G label "they" gave to themselves, if true.....does however smack of kind hearted but misguided delusional discarnate
(dead folks) who foolishly think being dead makes them angels, when they are simply discarnate folks who are trying to be helpful, but should have moved on instead of messing in the affairs of the incarnate folks.

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posted October 29, 2011 07:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moving this to Universal Codes as it is a kind of mystery/psychic topic.

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