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Topic: Where did the term 'Chockfull' come from?
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Ellynlvx Knowflake Posts: 10490 From: the Point of Light within the Mind of God Registered: Aug 2013
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posted July 11, 2014 07:20 PM
I think it's a powderhorn to muzzle term.Though they don't list that in the etymologies that I have run across. ------------------ Love, Ellyn IP: Logged |
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posted July 11, 2014 08:11 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ellynlvx: I think it's a powderhorn to muzzle term.Though they don't list that in the etymologies that I have run across.
Choke (firearms) In practice, choke tubes tighter than "Full", such as "Turkey", are also commonly marked with but a single thin notch on the end of the tube. Hence, to distinguish between "Full" vs. even tighter chokes, such as "Turkey", it becomes necessary to measure the bore exit diameter of the choke tube to determine precisely which choke type is present among the "Full" and tighter (smaller diameter) chokes. See entire article for more information. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choke_%28firearms%29 chock (adv.) Look up chock at Dictionary.com "tightly, close up against," 1799, back formation from chock-full. chock-full (adj.) Look up chock-full at Dictionary.com c.1400, chokkeful "crammed full," possibly from choke "cheek" (see cheek (n.)). Or it may be from Old French choquier "collide, crash, hit" (13c., Modern French choquer), which is probably from Germanic (compare Middle Dutch schokken; see shock (n.1)). http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=chock+full&searchmode=no ne ________________________________________ chock-full ˈCHäkˌfo͝ol,ˈCHək-/ adjective informal adjective: chockfull filled to overflowing. "my briefcase is chock-full of notes" Origin late Middle English: of unknown origin; later associated with chock. chock CHäk/ noun noun: chock; plural noun: chocks 1. a wedge or block placed against a wheel or rounded object, to prevent it from moving. a support on which a rounded structure, such as a cask or the hull of a boat, may be placed to keep it steady. 2. a fitting with a gap at the top, through which a rope or line is run. verb verb: chock; 3rd person present: chocks; past tense: chocked; past participle: chocked; gerund or present participle: chocking 1. prevent the forward movement of (a wheel or vehicle) with a chock. __________________________________ http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/chock-full chock–full adjective \ˈchək-ˈfu̇l, ˈchäk-, -ˌfu̇l\ : completely full Full Definition of CHOCK-FULL : full to the limit <hotels chock–full of tourists> See chock–full defined for English-language learners » See chock-full defined for kids » Variants of CHOCK-FULL chock–full or chock·ful Origin of CHOCK-FULL Middle English chokkefull, probably from choken to choke + full First Known Use: 15th century Related to CHOCK-FULL Synonyms brimful, brimming, bursting, chockablock, chock-full (or chockful), crammed, crowded, fat, filled, jammed, jam-packed, loaded, packed, stuffed Antonyms bare, blank, devoid, empty, stark, vacant, void Related Words overcrowded, overfilled, overflowing, overfull, overladen, overloaded, overstuffed; abounding, flush, fraught, replete, rife, swarming, teeming Near Antonyms deficient, inadequate, incomplete, insufficient, short, shortish, shy, wanting; depleted, drained, exhausted
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posted July 11, 2014 08:31 PM
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/chockful chock-full [chok-fool, chuhk-] Show IPA adjective full to the limit; crammed. Also, chock-ful, chuck-full, choke-full.
Origin: 1350–1400; Middle English chokke-fulle, equivalent to chokke (< ?) + fulle full1 Dictionary.com Unabridged Based on the Random House Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2014. World English Dictionary chock-full , choke-full or chuck-full — adj ( postpositive ) completely full [C17 choke-full; see choke , full ] choke-full , choke-full or chuck-full — adj [C17 choke-full; see choke , full ] chuck-full , choke-full or chuck-full — adj [C17 choke-full; see choke , full ]
Collins English Dictionary - Complete & Unabridged 10th Edition 2009 © William Collins Sons & Co. Ltd. 1979, 1986 © HarperCollins Publishers 1998, 2000, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2009 Cite This Source Word Origin & History
chock-full c.1400, chokkeful, possibly from choke "cheek." Or it may be from O.Fr. choquier "collide, thrust." Chock-a-block is nautical, said of two blocks of tackle run so closely they touch. Online Etymology Dictionary, © 2010 Douglas Harper IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx Knowflake Posts: 10490 From: the Point of Light within the Mind of God Registered: Aug 2013
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posted July 11, 2014 09:09 PM
I don't know why it turns me on, but it does.IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx Knowflake Posts: 10490 From: the Point of Light within the Mind of God Registered: Aug 2013
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posted July 11, 2014 09:11 PM
And I read all that, but I still think it comes from those old muzzle loaders, cause origin is unknown, and it makes sense.(Oh, but guns aren't as old as the term, huh? Oh well.) Just like I think jewelry came from the way Jewish people only had banking to resort to, and kept gems as they were easily transportable. IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx Knowflake Posts: 10490 From: the Point of Light within the Mind of God Registered: Aug 2013
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posted July 11, 2014 09:15 PM
Yeah, like Block & Tackle.Chain Hoist stuff. IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx Knowflake Posts: 10490 From: the Point of Light within the Mind of God Registered: Aug 2013
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posted July 11, 2014 09:18 PM
Oh, Thanks, LEXXI, I sure appreciate being able to ask you about these things.You're the Coolest! I sometimes forget to tell people that. Usually it's because I am so interested in the subjects we are talking about. But I really appreciate learning.  IP: Logged |
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posted July 11, 2014 11:47 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ellynlvx: And I read all that, but I still think it comes from those old muzzle loaders, cause origin is unknown, and it makes sense.(Oh, but guns aren't as old as the term, huh? Oh well.)
Indeed; the term predates firearms. quote: Originally posted by Ellynlvx:
Just like I think jewelry came from the way Jewish people only had banking to resort to, and kept gems as they were easily transportable.
No; that is not true. Not even close. Also jewels/gems/precious stones/crystal; go back before prehistory. The source of the word "jewelry" is basically the following:jewel (n.) Look up jewel at Dictionary.com late 13c., "article of value used for adornment," from Anglo-French juel, Old French jouel "ornament, jewel" (12c.), perhaps from Medieval Latin jocale, from Latin jocus "pastime, sport," in Vulgar Latin "that which causes joy" (see joke (n.)). Another theory traces it to Latin gaudium, also with a notion of "rejoice" (see joy). Sense of "precious stone" developed early 14c. Meaning "beloved person, admired woman" is late 14c. Colloquial family jewels "testicles" is from 1920s, but jewel as "testicle" dates to late 15c. _______________________ jewelry (n.) Look up jewelry at Dictionary.com late 14c., juelrye "precious ornaments, jewel work," from Old French juelerye, from jouel (see jewel). In modern use it can be analyzed as jewel + -ery or jeweler + -y (1). Also jewellery. _______________________ The basic etymology of the word "Jew", has nothing to do with jewelry/jewels. Jew (n.) Look up Jew at Dictionary.com late 12c. (in plural, giwis), from Anglo-French iuw, Old French giu, from Latin Iudaeum (nominative Iudaeus), from Greek Ioudaios, from Aramaic jehudhai (Hebrew y'hudi) "Jew," from Y'hudah "Judah," literally "celebrated," name of Jacob's fourth son and of the tribe descended from him. Replaced Old English Iudeas "the Jews." Originally, "Hebrew of the kingdom of Judah." IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx Knowflake Posts: 10490 From: the Point of Light within the Mind of God Registered: Aug 2013
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posted July 12, 2014 12:04 AM
Leo Rears His Regal Maned Head yet again.IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx Knowflake Posts: 10490 From: the Point of Light within the Mind of God Registered: Aug 2013
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posted July 12, 2014 12:11 AM
Thanks, LEXXI.  IP: Logged |
Lexxigramer Moderator Posts: 4718 From: The Etheric Realms...Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat...& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion! Registered: Feb 2012
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posted July 12, 2014 08:13 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ellynlvx: I don't know why it turns me on, but it does.
quote: Originally posted by Ellynlvx: Leo Rears His Regal Maned Head yet again.
There are times you make no sense to me...........oh well.  IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx Knowflake Posts: 10490 From: the Point of Light within the Mind of God Registered: Aug 2013
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posted July 12, 2014 04:25 PM
Leo is the Tribe of Judah.I wasn't being rude, Lexxi. IP: Logged |
Lexxigramer Moderator Posts: 4718 From: The Etheric Realms...Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat...& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion! Registered: Feb 2012
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posted July 12, 2014 06:16 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ellynlvx: Leo is the Tribe of Judah.I wasn't being rude, Lexxi.
I did not think that you were being rude. I simply did not know what you were going on about. Now I see the context you were referring to. Thank you for clarifying.IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 59359 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 15, 2015 01:13 PM
I use the term in my writing. Good to know the origin.IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 59359 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 16, 2015 04:10 PM
I am chock-full of ideas.IP: Logged |
Lexxigramer Moderator Posts: 4718 From: The Etheric Realms...Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat...& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion! Registered: Feb 2012
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posted November 22, 2015 07:33 PM
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