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virgotaurustaurus
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posted December 30, 2004 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for virgotaurustaurus     Edit/Delete Message
Wooo so I just bought my first bonsai tree 2 days ago! I haven't worked my green thumb in a few years, so I'm starting all over.

So I probably have the weirdest question...I have a lot of electronics in my bedroom, where I have my plant. Is it ok to have a plant near the electronics? I'm thinking about the energies of both the plant and the electronics, can my plant be killed due to them? The plant is sitting on top of my radio right now...

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26taurus
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posted December 31, 2004 11:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
Hey VTT,

I stumbled across this fascinating article about Plant ESP. I havent read the book yet, but have heard alot about it, it's called 'the secret life of plants.' It sounds fascinating. I believe that electronic energies will effect your plant. I'm not sure exactly how but I'm sure it would be affected. I think it would take awhile and ALOT of electronics to actually KILL it though. lol I know there have been experiments doen where a plant was sent love by someone and flourished while another plant wasnt sent love and didnt fare as well. And experiments with different music played to plants made the same kinds of plants grow differently. It makes sense. Theyre living things.

Cool site! http://www.strayreality.com/Plantsesp.htm

Good luck.

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Yin
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posted January 01, 2005 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message
Hmm, one would think if you have enough electronics to kill your plant, you probably have enough to harm YOURSELF as well...

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Randall
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posted January 03, 2005 12:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message

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26taurus
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posted January 05, 2005 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
Errmmm....? VTT? How's the tree doing?

Yin,
I think we are alot stronger than a plant. Electronic devices would kill a plant WAY before affecting us.....

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virgotaurustaurus
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posted January 06, 2005 03:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for virgotaurustaurus     Edit/Delete Message
LMAO!! There's enough forums on LL where I get confused, I kept looking for my own post wondering where I had posted it! DOH!!!

bonsai tree is alive and well I can tell if it's getting enough water by the moss with the seed pods - if those aren't standing up it's definitely time to be watered! Seems like a happy little bonsai tree to me It gets music allllll day long too!

that link is so neat! I guess I won't think about setting my tree on fire hahaha! I'm glad though, after reading that link, because everytime I look at my bonsai tree I get all happy. I'm like "woo hoo I have a bonsai tree! This rocks!" We're pals lol!

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26taurus
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posted January 07, 2005 12:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
ROFL! I knew that's what happened. hahahaha. Funny.

Yeah interesting link. "We're pals" I've wanted a bonsai tree for awhile, but I'm not too good with plants. I dont know if I trust myself. It's not very high maintenance is it?

....I need me one of those "pals"....the kind that doesnt talk back to you.

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posted January 07, 2005 12:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
......and listens to music with you, but doesnt sing the wrong words over the lyrics.....out of tune.........

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Randall
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posted January 08, 2005 10:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
VTT:

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virgotaurustaurus
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posted January 08, 2005 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for virgotaurustaurus     Edit/Delete Message
Randall Haha I'm starting to get used to all the forums the past 2 days

I was a tad afraid to go by myself one because I could never keep cacti alive for long, but I wonder if the conditions in the house weren't right for it either..hmm!!

The only care I really have to do with my bonsai is to submerge it in water 1 inch above it's trunk for a few minutes 2-3 days, and give it some light. They also told me I can spray it with water in the mornings if I want, since it's of the tropical kind and I'd be recreating a rainforest environment. But so far I've had it a week, and I've just been submerging it every 2 days and it seems to be doing just as good as when I bought it! I also got the easiest kind to take care of (Podocarpus)

HAHA! I know what you mean about having pals that don't talk back to you Bonsai trees rocccckk if this one keeps alive I'm going to get another!

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posted January 12, 2005 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message

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posted January 23, 2005 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweetlibra     Edit/Delete Message
It really hurts to see bonsai trees
I always feel that it could be a punishment for the tree to b forced to grow dwarf..

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posted January 23, 2005 09:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NeoKitty     Edit/Delete Message
Hi sweetlibra.
You mean karmically?

They might like being tiny, what makes you feel this way?

I don't really see karma as a punishment, it just IS, and in my opinion, I think plants and trees really accept was is, they are the most 'IS' type of life out of all life.
As you can see they just ARE. To look at a plant you don't expect much activity from it on the outside. I'm not sure what goes on the inside, but they are highly-conscious, so I let them be.

Obivously I couldn't get into plant perception, but bonsai trees apparently have an amazing aura of love and friendship. My asian great-grandfather said apparently that's one reason why they love them, and also because they don't have alot of room for trees, and so tiny tress are much better.

But say it was Karmic they are dwarf, then still there's no need to be sad for them, because they still ARE. And I'm sure there happy, and I feel they accept themselves for what they are.
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posted January 23, 2005 09:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
I thought bonsai trees were born that way.

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NeoKitty
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posted January 24, 2005 12:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NeoKitty     Edit/Delete Message
Yah, they are!

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sweetlibra
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posted January 28, 2005 01:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweetlibra     Edit/Delete Message
NeoKitty, we are forcing them to be tiny.Its not their choice.
may b i feel this way cuz I have grown up seeing huge trees.
Many times i have heard and noticed that these huge trees respond to our language.
Here in my home,when our jackfruit tree bears lots of fruits and if my mother casually comments near the tree that its more than needed for us and our neighbours, next year the number of jackfruits will be just enough even though we give the same amount of fertilizer and water.
when i see the miniature of those huge trees i feel sad.I didnt mean in a karmatic sense.

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posted January 30, 2005 12:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NeoKitty     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Sweetlibra

They do respond to our language!- And that's an amazing story!

In what way has our language affected bansai trees? How are we forcing them?
Im purely asking to understand what you mean.

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posted January 30, 2005 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweetlibra     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Neokitty
we are actually forcing them to grow slow(if my understanding of Bonsai tree is right )
There are many who loves a big tree as a miniature form inside the house.
I was wondering how the bonsai tree would feel about the whole procedure while it is capable of understanding our speech.
I didnt mean that our speech affect bonsai in particular

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virgotaurustaurus
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posted February 03, 2005 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for virgotaurustaurus     Edit/Delete Message
*scratches head in wonder at what this thread has turned into...*

WHeeee it has new growth!

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Eleanore
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posted February 03, 2005 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eleanore     Edit/Delete Message
BONSAI

This was at one time, the most commonly ask of all questions, but, since the Karate Kid was first shown, the frequency with which this question gets asked has decreased a little bit..Bonsai is literally a plant, (usually a tree or shrub) grown in a tray, or dish. The first plants grown in pots were in Egypt about 4000 years ago, mostly for practical reasons, mobility, and convenience. The Greeks, Babylonians, Persians, and Hindus copied the technique. The Chinese were the first to plant trees in pots for aesthetic purposes about 200 AD. It then moved to Japan with the monks that also brought Buddhism in the 6th and 7th centuries. This data is supported in essence by a scroll from Japan's Kamakura period (1192-1333), in a scroll describing life in the Heian period (794-1191).

Bonsai as we now know it was perfected in Japan. The original bonsai trees were usually collected, dwarfed by nature. Today, however, it is probably better to allow such specimens to stay where they are. In many locations collecting them in the wild is against the law. In others the chance of finding a suitable specimen is almost zero. Over the years, techniques have evolved which allow the grower to change the height and direction of growth, and in some cases to dwarf the foliage as well as the plant. Today, bonsai is an art form, a living sculpture. There are certain classic or traditional forms that can be found and followed, but the basic rule of thumb for personal bonsai is 'If you like the way it looks, it's a good bonsai'. http://www.cyber-north.com/bonsai/bonsai.html


Quite a number of Bonsai trees need to be repotted into a bigger pot after a number of years. I'm not sure about shrubs. I'd like to invest in a Bonsai tree when hubby and I own our own home. (I can't imagine travelling with our little friend on and off for however many years.) It also depends on the species you buy whether or not it keeps growing and growing. Some dwarf varieties have been accustomed to it so long that they just remain dwarfed throughout their lives. I've read of new species being introduced to Bonsai that are not as dwarfed by nature as necessary so they do need to be contained to a small size by their growers, perhaps over a few generations. But does it really hurt the tree? One could ask the same of hybridizing (naturally, I mean) flowers, fruit and vegetable plants, etc. Also of "forcing" plants indoors in the winter. As caretakers of plants, we have it in our power to do many things with them that would never occur naturally in nature, such as the aforementioned or even just planting them in pots or baskets, or growing them in greenhouses. But is it wrong? I can't seem to think it is (well, organic methods, etc., are okay with me, at least). People who take care of plants really love them. It's certainly a responsibility. And they provide so much pleasure for us, such joy and learning! I feel that plants are happy knowing these things, being appreciated and provided for, and giving what they can to us. Nature gives freely, a valuable lesson for us to learn, and she is also much more comfortable with evolution than many humans I know.

Sorry for my rambles. I love plants. Hope your Bonsai does well virgotaurustaurus! Perhaps you could indulge us with a picture sometime.


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posted February 05, 2005 07:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweetlibra     Edit/Delete Message
very informative Eleanore

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posted February 06, 2005 07:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message

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virgotaurustaurus
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posted June 14, 2005 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for virgotaurustaurus     Edit/Delete Message
Wooo!! I still have this very bonsai, half a year later, and it even has had new growth on it!! I think I'm in love LOL!

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