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hippichick
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posted January 25, 2006 02:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message
Does anybody know of a more "spiritual" method of warding off oak wilt other that nasty, harsh, chemicals? I have oak wilt in my neighborhood, within 200 feet of my beautiful, old, south texas live oaks. I am not opposed to and very much for, visualization, burning candles, use of herbs, anything to save my trees!!!
All advice much appreciated!
Peace, Love and Light!

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Harpyr
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posted March 28, 2006 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harpyr     Edit/Delete Message
Awww.. I just did alittle googling about this, as I'm from a place that doesn't have oaks and don't know a lick about them and it sounds like an awful disease.

It sounds like the best thing you can do is make sure that your trees are getting a healthy balance of the proper nutrients, which doesn't necessarily mean is has to be artificial fertilizers. I'm sure you could find some good organic stuff or make your own concoction. It also seems like the most important thing to protect the healthy trees is to remove the diseased trees.
This page talked about that- http://www.treehelp.com/trees/oak/diseases-oak-wilt.asp

I'm sure that sending some positive thoughts to your trees in the form of a little ritual wouldn't hurt either! Maybe a protection ritual involving marking a protective ring around your trees with rocks or something?
I hope your oaks stay healthy!

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posted March 28, 2006 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harpyr     Edit/Delete Message
I just found this and thought you might be interested.. I got it off the austin permaculture list so I think it might be relatively near you...

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April 8th and 9th, 2006 (512) 443-5323

"CITIZEN FORESTER WORKSHOP"


“Registration begins now for the spring Citizen Forester workshop hosted by TreeFolks, Inc.”

Who: TreeFolks, Inc.

What: Learn about urban tree care from an array of professional arborists, foresters, and landscape designers. Workshop topics include tree biology and identification, pruning and planting techniques, the role of trees in landscape design, and how to climb trees safely with the right equipment. An official TreeFolks' Citizen Forester Certificate is awarded to participants who attend the two day workshop and complete a ten hour volunteer service component.

When: April 8th and 9th, 12pm to 5pm. We’ll provide some refreshments.

Where: TreeFolks at Hornesby Bend, 10803 Platt Ln. 78725

Why: Learn why, when, where and how to properly plant and irrigate trees to ensure long term survival. How to design your landscape around your trees. How to prune for safety and strength, reducing potential future problems including oak wilt. And learn the safe way to climb trees for fun or for light pruning.

Cost: $45 (NON-MEMBERS) / $36 (MEMBERS)


For more information contact Paul Domaruk with TreeFolks at (512) 443-5323 or paul@treefolks.org

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Selwyn Polit
(512)926-7876
selwyn@austintx.com

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posted March 28, 2006 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harpyr     Edit/Delete Message
Here's some more from that list..


-------------- http://www.ibiblio.org/ecolandtech/agriculture/soilfoodweb/SFI-Ezine/msg00012.html

Dr Ingham,

Can you tell me whether there has been any research done by SFI on
"oak
wilt" or "live oak decline"? I was reading the
introductory e-zine and what
spurred me to ask this question is the part on bacteria vs. fungal
dominated
soils, the latter being proper to forrests. I have a ranch in Texas with
many
live oaks and other oaks, but many are dying as a result of "oak
wilt". So far as I
know, no one (e.g. TX A&M Univ.) even knows what causes this disease,
whether
its bacteria, virus or fungus--it is highly disputed.

Could it be that there is simply not enough fungal activity (for
whatever
reason) to produce enough ammonia, and if so, would watering the
affected
trees with a diluted ammonia solution help restore the proper fungi to
the
soil and end the problem?

I would appreciate your input on this. Sincerely, Chris

A-3.)
Hello Chris-
Oak wilt, at least in other parts of the country, seems to be an
Armillaria-caused disease, although it's probably actually a
"community" of
root-rot fungi that do the attacking.

Typically the things that help root rot fungi are high levels of nitrate
and reduced oxygen in the soil, such as in compacted soil. So,improve
soil
structure - don't compact - and the root rot will be reduced.

If you apply ammonium in a bacterial-dominated soil, the nitrifying
bacteria will convert the ammonium to nitrate before you can say
Nitrosomonas. And then the root rots will thank you for helping them
out.

So, I wouldn't go for N in any form as a treatment for oak wilt.
Probably
the problem is N deposition from atmospheric sources of pollution, much
as
they have experienced in Europe. We're just starting to see these
impacts
here in the States.

The thing to do for too high N is to add sugar, and get the bacteria and
fungi to tie-up the excess nitrate in soil organic matter. this would
help
combat the disease, in that the selective factor for the root rots is
high
nitrate, and reducing high nitrate would select against the disease. But
be careful with adding too much sugar. Add too much, and the bacteria
tie-up ALL your N, and the trees die. Optimal is the important point
here.

Or, get a good grass-oak leaf mulch down around the trees, and use a
compost tea to inoculate the beneficial organisms that should combat the
disease problems on the roots. Harry Hoitink has suggested that the
organisms in a good compost can give you systemic acquired resistance,
which would combat the root rot fungi most likely causing oak wilt.

But, it sure would be nice to have the funding to do the detailed work
to
determine what the problem is for certain.

Elaine


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Harpyr
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posted March 28, 2006 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harpyr     Edit/Delete Message
and some more thoughts..

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Hi P----,

My guess is that the biodynamic folks have been working on compost teas
and other preparations for neutralizing the damaging effects of oak
wilt. A close friend of mine in Brenham, Tim Kiphart, bought a tea
spreader and was following the whole tea movement pretty closely. Tim
works on pasture improvement and soil fertility and follows the native
plant and ecological restoration lists.

Also, Malcolm Beck and Elaine Ingham would likely know about the uses of
teas against oak wilt. Even closer to home might be Gary Freeborg,
Betsy Ross or Jerimiah Cunningham.

Are you trying to prevent oak wilt from infecting a stand of trees or
are you trying to cure a tree already infected? Are you familiar with
how oak wilt spreads and what the general remedy is for it? Typically,
they trench three feet deep around the trees and pump fungicides down
into the root system.

Here's a general course of action to consider. Gather soil samples from
underneath a few different healthy stands of oaks (even better, find
some oaks that have survived the fungus). Also select from a mixed
stand of trees rather than from solitary oak stands. Spread the
collected soils underneath the trees you are trying to protect, mulch
them lightly and treat the area with a mild compost tea to feed the
flora and fauna you have imported.

There's another way to import flora and fauna using cooked rice in a
bowl but I don't recall the method.

As a spot treatment against the fungus, you could spray natural
anti-fungal agents like horses tail, eucalyptus, china berry and neem
under the affected trees. I wouldn't spray this on the material you
import, as it may disrupt the conditions necessary for your imported
cultures to take.

Also I recommend, slightly lowering your soil pH by adding halfway
decomposed juniper duff.

Once a tree gets infected though, it's pretty rare to turn it around.
Good luck,

K----

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posted March 28, 2006 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harpyr     Edit/Delete Message
An exerpt from a conversation that speculates about swales being helpful..

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"An interesting point was brought up about using swales to help our oaks be
healthier and defend themselves against oak wilt. The swales would help the
oaks have more water and nutrients available and have less stress in general.
Of course this is not the only thing we can do. I remember Martha saying that
her oaks were unaffected while all around her land oak wilt was in full swing.
She is doing organics and rotational grazing (and other things too that I don't
remember). These elements help as well.

Swales are one of the elements Bill Mollison suggested would help out the
drought and lack of groundwater that is causing the massive pinyon pine deaths."

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Harpyr
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posted March 28, 2006 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harpyr     Edit/Delete Message
oooo.. I also just read that planting junipers will lower the soil ph and help make blights like oak wilt less likely. It sounds like juniper duff is incredibly fertile stuff and really helps out your soil..

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hippichick
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posted April 13, 2006 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you all for your replies! I so want to save my trees without the use of expensive antifungals, etc! I think oak wilt is just another way mother earth is screaming out at us to DO SOMETHING!

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posted April 14, 2006 12:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harpyr     Edit/Delete Message
You're welcome!

I couldn't agree more about Her trying to get us to wake up to reality already....

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