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Topic: Oak WIlt
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hippichick Knowflake Posts: 317 From: Registered: Jan 2006
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posted January 25, 2006 02:29 PM
Does anybody know of a more "spiritual" method of warding off oak wilt other that nasty, harsh, chemicals? I have oak wilt in my neighborhood, within 200 feet of my beautiful, old, south texas live oaks. I am not opposed to and very much for, visualization, burning candles, use of herbs, anything to save my trees!!! All advice much appreciated! Peace, Love and Light!IP: Logged |
Harpyr Moderator Posts: 2020 From: land of the midnight sun Registered: Dec 2002
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posted March 28, 2006 03:41 PM
Awww.. I just did alittle googling about this, as I'm from a place that doesn't have oaks and don't know a lick about them and it sounds like an awful disease. It sounds like the best thing you can do is make sure that your trees are getting a healthy balance of the proper nutrients, which doesn't necessarily mean is has to be artificial fertilizers. I'm sure you could find some good organic stuff or make your own concoction. It also seems like the most important thing to protect the healthy trees is to remove the diseased trees. This page talked about that- http://www.treehelp.com/trees/oak/diseases-oak-wilt.asp I'm sure that sending some positive thoughts to your trees in the form of a little ritual wouldn't hurt either! Maybe a protection ritual involving marking a protective ring around your trees with rocks or something? I hope your oaks stay healthy! IP: Logged |
Harpyr Moderator Posts: 2020 From: land of the midnight sun Registered: Dec 2002
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posted March 28, 2006 03:53 PM
I just found this and thought you might be interested.. I got it off the austin permaculture list so I think it might be relatively near you...----- April 8th and 9th, 2006 (512) 443-5323 "CITIZEN FORESTER WORKSHOP" “Registration begins now for the spring Citizen Forester workshop hosted by TreeFolks, Inc.” Who: TreeFolks, Inc. What: Learn about urban tree care from an array of professional arborists, foresters, and landscape designers. Workshop topics include tree biology and identification, pruning and planting techniques, the role of trees in landscape design, and how to climb trees safely with the right equipment. An official TreeFolks' Citizen Forester Certificate is awarded to participants who attend the two day workshop and complete a ten hour volunteer service component. When: April 8th and 9th, 12pm to 5pm. We’ll provide some refreshments. Where: TreeFolks at Hornesby Bend, 10803 Platt Ln. 78725 Why: Learn why, when, where and how to properly plant and irrigate trees to ensure long term survival. How to design your landscape around your trees. How to prune for safety and strength, reducing potential future problems including oak wilt. And learn the safe way to climb trees for fun or for light pruning. Cost: $45 (NON-MEMBERS) / $36 (MEMBERS) For more information contact Paul Domaruk with TreeFolks at (512) 443-5323 or paul@treefolks.org __________ Selwyn Polit (512)926-7876 selwyn@austintx.com
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Harpyr Moderator Posts: 2020 From: land of the midnight sun Registered: Dec 2002
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posted March 28, 2006 03:58 PM
Here's some more from that list.. -------------- http://www.ibiblio.org/ecolandtech/agriculture/soilfoodweb/SFI-Ezine/msg00012.html
Dr Ingham, Can you tell me whether there has been any research done by SFI on "oak wilt" or "live oak decline"? I was reading the introductory e-zine and what spurred me to ask this question is the part on bacteria vs. fungal dominated soils, the latter being proper to forrests. I have a ranch in Texas with many live oaks and other oaks, but many are dying as a result of "oak wilt". So far as I know, no one (e.g. TX A&M Univ.) even knows what causes this disease, whether its bacteria, virus or fungus--it is highly disputed. Could it be that there is simply not enough fungal activity (for whatever reason) to produce enough ammonia, and if so, would watering the affected trees with a diluted ammonia solution help restore the proper fungi to the soil and end the problem? I would appreciate your input on this. Sincerely, Chris A-3.) Hello Chris- Oak wilt, at least in other parts of the country, seems to be an Armillaria-caused disease, although it's probably actually a "community" of root-rot fungi that do the attacking. Typically the things that help root rot fungi are high levels of nitrate and reduced oxygen in the soil, such as in compacted soil. So,improve soil structure - don't compact - and the root rot will be reduced. If you apply ammonium in a bacterial-dominated soil, the nitrifying bacteria will convert the ammonium to nitrate before you can say Nitrosomonas. And then the root rots will thank you for helping them out. So, I wouldn't go for N in any form as a treatment for oak wilt. Probably the problem is N deposition from atmospheric sources of pollution, much as they have experienced in Europe. We're just starting to see these impacts here in the States. The thing to do for too high N is to add sugar, and get the bacteria and fungi to tie-up the excess nitrate in soil organic matter. this would help combat the disease, in that the selective factor for the root rots is high nitrate, and reducing high nitrate would select against the disease. But be careful with adding too much sugar. Add too much, and the bacteria tie-up ALL your N, and the trees die. Optimal is the important point here. Or, get a good grass-oak leaf mulch down around the trees, and use a compost tea to inoculate the beneficial organisms that should combat the disease problems on the roots. Harry Hoitink has suggested that the organisms in a good compost can give you systemic acquired resistance, which would combat the root rot fungi most likely causing oak wilt. But, it sure would be nice to have the funding to do the detailed work to determine what the problem is for certain. Elaine __________
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Harpyr Moderator Posts: 2020 From: land of the midnight sun Registered: Dec 2002
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posted March 28, 2006 04:00 PM
and some more thoughts..---------- Hi P----, My guess is that the biodynamic folks have been working on compost teas and other preparations for neutralizing the damaging effects of oak wilt. A close friend of mine in Brenham, Tim Kiphart, bought a tea spreader and was following the whole tea movement pretty closely. Tim works on pasture improvement and soil fertility and follows the native plant and ecological restoration lists. Also, Malcolm Beck and Elaine Ingham would likely know about the uses of teas against oak wilt. Even closer to home might be Gary Freeborg, Betsy Ross or Jerimiah Cunningham. Are you trying to prevent oak wilt from infecting a stand of trees or are you trying to cure a tree already infected? Are you familiar with how oak wilt spreads and what the general remedy is for it? Typically, they trench three feet deep around the trees and pump fungicides down into the root system. Here's a general course of action to consider. Gather soil samples from underneath a few different healthy stands of oaks (even better, find some oaks that have survived the fungus). Also select from a mixed stand of trees rather than from solitary oak stands. Spread the collected soils underneath the trees you are trying to protect, mulch them lightly and treat the area with a mild compost tea to feed the flora and fauna you have imported. There's another way to import flora and fauna using cooked rice in a bowl but I don't recall the method. As a spot treatment against the fungus, you could spray natural anti-fungal agents like horses tail, eucalyptus, china berry and neem under the affected trees. I wouldn't spray this on the material you import, as it may disrupt the conditions necessary for your imported cultures to take. Also I recommend, slightly lowering your soil pH by adding halfway decomposed juniper duff. Once a tree gets infected though, it's pretty rare to turn it around. Good luck, K---- IP: Logged |
Harpyr Moderator Posts: 2020 From: land of the midnight sun Registered: Dec 2002
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posted March 28, 2006 04:03 PM
An exerpt from a conversation that speculates about swales being helpful..----- "An interesting point was brought up about using swales to help our oaks be healthier and defend themselves against oak wilt. The swales would help the oaks have more water and nutrients available and have less stress in general. Of course this is not the only thing we can do. I remember Martha saying that her oaks were unaffected while all around her land oak wilt was in full swing. She is doing organics and rotational grazing (and other things too that I don't remember). These elements help as well. Swales are one of the elements Bill Mollison suggested would help out the drought and lack of groundwater that is causing the massive pinyon pine deaths." IP: Logged |
Harpyr Moderator Posts: 2020 From: land of the midnight sun Registered: Dec 2002
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posted March 28, 2006 04:06 PM
oooo.. I also just read that planting junipers will lower the soil ph and help make blights like oak wilt less likely. It sounds like juniper duff is incredibly fertile stuff and really helps out your soil..IP: Logged |
hippichick Knowflake Posts: 317 From: Registered: Jan 2006
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posted April 13, 2006 03:58 PM
Thank you all for your replies! I so want to save my trees without the use of expensive antifungals, etc! I think oak wilt is just another way mother earth is screaming out at us to DO SOMETHING!IP: Logged |
Harpyr Moderator Posts: 2020 From: land of the midnight sun Registered: Dec 2002
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posted April 14, 2006 12:34 AM
You're welcome! I couldn't agree more about Her trying to get us to wake up to reality already.... IP: Logged | |