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Thorshammer
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posted March 06, 2008 11:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thorshammer     Edit/Delete Message
It had come to my attention from my Sagi sista that i am lacking in my ventures around...as I am a master gardner...lol.

I first came across this in a video a bunch of cospiracy friends of mine posted...sure enough a couple of months later the media decides to print something about this...so beware...when things like this come up...something is amiss and coming soon...to a theatre near you!
http://hashemsfilms.com/component/option,com_seyret/task,videodirectlink/Itemid,40/id,152/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svalbard_Global_Seed_Vault

so later on its on the news online...though two months ago...NO ONE talked about it.

so who's saving seeds?


Doomsday vault to avert world famine

* 12 January 2006
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WITHIN a large concrete room, hewn out of a mountain on a freezing-cold island just 1000 kilometres from the North Pole, could lie the future of humanity.

The room is a "doomsday vault" designed to hold around 2 million seeds, representing all known varieties of the world's crops. It is being built to safeguard the world's food supply against nuclear war, climate change, terrorism, rising sea levels, earthquakes and the ensuing collapse of electricity supplies. "If the worst came to the worst, this would allow the world to reconstruct agriculture on this planet," says Cary Fowler, director of the Global Crop Diversity Trust, an independent international organisation promoting the project.

New Scientist has learned that the Norwegian government is planning to create the seed bank next year at the behest of crop scientists. The $3 million vault will be built deep inside a sandstone mountain lined with permafrost on the Norwegian Arctic island of Spitsbergen. The vault will have metre-thick walls of reinforced concrete and will be protected behind two airlocks and high-security blast-proof doors. It will not be permanently manned, but "the mountains are patrolled by polar bears", says Fowler.
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“If the worst came to the worst, the seed vault would allow the world to reconstruct agriculture on this planet”

The vault's seed collection, made up of duplicates of those already held at other seed banks, will represent the products of some 10,000 years of plant breeding by the world's farmers. Though most are no longer widely planted, the varieties contain vital genetic traits still regularly used in plant breeding.

To survive, the seeds need freezing temperatures. Operators plan to replace the air inside the vault each winter, when temperatures in Spitsbergen are around -18 °C. But even if some catastrophe meant that the vault was abandoned, the permafrost would keep the seeds viable. And even accelerated global warming would take many decades to penetrate the mountain vault.

"This will be the world's most secure gene bank by some orders of magnitude," says Fowler. "But its seeds will only be used when all other samples have gone for some reason. It is a fail-safe depository, rather than a conventional seed bank."

Norway first proposed the project in the 1980s but it was shelved because of security concerns: under an international treaty the Soviet Union had access to Spitsbergen at the time. With the end of the cold war and the signing of the International Treaty on Plant Genetic Resources, which gives legal protection to national crops, the door was open for the idea's revival.

The project also comes at a time when there is growing concern about the safety of existing seed banks around the world. Many have been criticised for their poor security, ageing refrigeration systems and vulnerable electricity supplies. In the late 1980s, terrorists ransacked an international potato seed bank in the Peruvian Andes, while more recently anti-globalisation campaigners have demonstrated against other banks.

The new Fort Knox for the world's crops will start by taking seeds from the network of seed banks run in the Philippines, Mexico, Syria, Nigeria and elsewhere by the Consultative Group on International Agricultural Research, which is part-funded by the World Bank. "We will then add samples from elsewhere until we have a complete set of the world's crop varieties," says Fowler.

The scheme won UN approval at a meeting of the Food and Agriculture Organization in Rome last October. A feasibility study said the facility "would essentially be built to last forever".
From issue 2534 of New Scientist magazine, 12 January 2006, page 12
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posted March 07, 2008 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message

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posted April 07, 2008 02:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yourfriendinspirit     Edit/Delete Message
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I went exploring about many websites to learn more of this project. WOW!!!

That's err.. crazy!

Seems that this baby had been in the works for a very long time yet kept very hush...

The whole idea sickens me to think of the behind the scenes agendas going on.

I'd love to think that this is for our planets protection and our peoples nourishment should the need ever arise.

But, I simply cannot just now with the information I've read thus far.

It really seems that a situation is going to be created in order to destroy our resources.

Also that only an elite group of preselected people will benefit from this project and others like it.

So the question still remains on my lips..

"Where ya' gonna hide your seeds?"

I currently do not have a safe place to do so, does anyone?

Thank you Thor for posting this here...
I look forward to hearing others views on this as well.


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posted April 12, 2008 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for goatgirl     Edit/Delete Message
There are many local organizations dedicated to seed saving and exchanges of such. We have maybe a half dozen here in Iowa. I would start there, and many have online groups and things of that nature. There are good resources/books to read up on this type of activity. I'd say start locally, and get that going.

I know that Iowa State has such a seed bank, though at this point it's for research type of thing. It could be used if needed though I would think.

I'd been aware of the seed vault for about 5 years now, and had wondered if it really was for the benefit of all or would it be used for the wealthiest, etc.

Thanks for posting it here Thor.

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posted April 12, 2008 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yourfriendinspirit     Edit/Delete Message

*confused

How could you have been aware of this global seed vault for 5 years?

Global Seed Vault opened officially on February 26, 2008.

It is only now just 1 1/2 months old (or) new if you will...

(or) are you perhaps speaking of the idea of this concept or another one entirely?

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posted April 13, 2008 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Crazy stuff.

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posted April 27, 2008 10:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for goatgirl     Edit/Delete Message
I remember reading about it, on the "tubes". I guess it could have been another one, but I swear it was this one

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posted May 01, 2008 06:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Good quotes!

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posted May 02, 2008 11:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for goatgirl     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks Randall.

They keep me mindful

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