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moondreamer
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posted September 21, 2003 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moondreamer     Edit/Delete Message
HELLO THERE

I know many people who have astral travelled and all of them, at the time they did, mentioned that they had taken drugs of some sort just before traveling.
I want to if their is any "SAFE" to astral travel?
I dont want to use drugs in order to achieve astral travel, but rather do it in a safe way!
Is there is safe way to astral travel?
PLEASE HELP!

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bauschd
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posted September 21, 2003 08:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bauschd     Edit/Delete Message
I'm sure there is, you'd have to have a fair amount of control over your mind/body/soul though. Plus, how can you believe people who claim something that happened when they were high? I've felt close to travelling when I was younger but always freaked and prevented myself. I don't know if I was about to, or if it was anxiety, but either way, I'm glad to have sound mind/body/soul. Imagine if you travelled and couldn't find your body again?

Very Scary,
Dean.

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Randall
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posted September 22, 2003 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
There's an astral cord, so you can't lose your body. Any shock, and you'll crash right back.

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mambo
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posted September 22, 2003 08:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mambo     Edit/Delete Message
I have tried it a few times. Each time I feel my body start to shake and then I concentrate on what is happening and it stops. It is very annoying since you have to try another day and start all over.

You focus on leaving your body, but since I have explored more of this, you would also have to protect your prone body as this is the ideal time for other entities to inhabit it.

Personally the best thing a person can do is learn to meditate adeptly and after that is accomplished then move on to astral projection. When you can commune with your own god within, then you could ask about a safe way to do it, or even asking your subconscious for a way through the dream world.

The astral is the part of ourselves that deals with pain registration-which goes to explain even though we have nerve endings all over our body, a persons body that is heavily saturated with alcohol or drugs feels no pain. The astral has been forced out of the body, making it easy for other entities to take over. There are some people that say 70-100% of schizophrenia is the result of possession.

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ally
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posted September 24, 2003 08:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ally     Edit/Delete Message
~I know many people who have astral travelled and all of them, at the time they did, mentioned that they had taken drugs of some sort just before traveling.~

And phooey. If someone told me something like that,I would just consider it totally irrelevent. You do not need to take drugs in order to astral travel.
Here's a link to a site that exlains how to astral travel. http://www.thiaoouba.com/astr.htm

And here's another~ http://www.spellsandmagic.com/astral2.html

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moondreamer
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posted September 24, 2003 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moondreamer     Edit/Delete Message
DEAR ALLY

Thank you for the helpful information. i really do appreciate it.
I am going to try and astral travel tonight.
I will let you know the results sometime during this week.
MOONDREAMER.

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ally
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posted September 24, 2003 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ally     Edit/Delete Message
You're very welcome,moondreamer.

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Ra
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posted September 25, 2003 04:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
What Ally said!

I have had OBEs while under the influence of various drugs, and also while perfectly clean. There is no substitute for having an OBE with all of your senses intact - it is safer, and much more profound that way.

Have fun, moondreamer!

We will be looking forward to an update, and I would be curious as to the method/s you tried.

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moondreamer
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posted September 25, 2003 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moondreamer     Edit/Delete Message
HI ALLY

As i said, i tried to astral travel,but to no avail.I
followed the instructions as posted on the www.spellsandmagic.com/astral2.html website but nothing happened.BUT as i was trying to astral travel, a "weird" thing occured.I COULD FEEL MY SOUL,SPIRIT(whatever you want to call it)TRYING TO "ESCAPE" MY PHYSICAL BODY.but it didn't acheive its desired goal. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?I will try again this weekend.

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Ra
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posted September 26, 2003 03:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
It means you can do it!

I read the method described on the website ... not bad! It is very similar to a method I use.

As a variation, try this:

Before closing your eyes, look around at your surroundings, look at the details. Then, with eyes closed and in as relaxed a state as you can manage, visualize your surroundings. See yourself lying there. Imagine that you are floating just above your body, imagine the surroundings. See yourself as two, one on the bed, and the other floating just above. Visualize your body floating above you, imagine what it looks like from the back. Shift your imaginings from the you-on-the-bed to the you-floating-above, and back again. Imagine what the room looks like from both vantage points.

At some point in switching back and forth, you may actually induce a real OBE, and you will know the difference between an OBE and your imagination.

Good luck!

I recall vividly doing just this thing, going back and forth, back and forth, when I suddenly realized that I was seeing everything around me, 360 degrees, all at once! THAT was a very strange sensation!

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ally
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posted September 26, 2003 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ally     Edit/Delete Message
~BUT as i was trying to astral travel, a "weird" thing occured.I COULD FEEL MY SOUL,SPIRIT(whatever you want to call it)TRYING TO "ESCAPE" MY PHYSICAL BODY~


That means that you were about to leave your body. The best advice I can give you is to not be afraid of leaving it. It's most likely not going to happen the first time you try it,so just keep trying.

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scorpiogirl
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posted September 30, 2003 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scorpiogirl     Edit/Delete Message
The firststep is wanting. A friend told me to imagine your soul flies up, over the clouds before closing your eyes. Then you're free to go wherever you want.


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moondreamer
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posted September 30, 2003 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moondreamer     Edit/Delete Message
GUESS WHAT?

I think I astral travelled!
Over the weekend I tried the methods to astral travel.I was getting nowhere.ALL of a sudden I find myself sitting in the tv room staring at the tv.I got up to turn it on but i was thinking of aliens and UFOS(dont ask me why)and remembered that you musn't think of anything you dont want to.Anyway, I was walking down the passage towards my parents room and as soon as I passed my room, I immediately woke up.How FREAKY was that?

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Randall
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posted October 01, 2003 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message

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Ra
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posted October 02, 2003 03:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Sounds like a first step!

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Katie
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posted November 28, 2003 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Katie     Edit/Delete Message
Hi! Sounds like u did it!
It's happened to me spontaneously plenty of times, but only once when I TRIED. Can be pretty spooky tho....depends on your state of mind.
It hasn't happened to me for a while now, I think the last time was a couple of years ago now. But at some times in my life it's happened every night sometimes several times a night, and as a teenager it even happened a couple of times when I was fully awake - very very odd feeling. - And no, I wasn't taking any drugs. Drugs haven't played a part in any of my astral experiences. I don't know why it happens, it's happened on & off all my life, but it used to happen to my mum all the time too, so maybe it's something that just runs in my family.
For me, it usually happens when I'm very tired and / or stressed, and as I'm falling asleep I just woosh straight out of my body.
I've met people I know in this state, had conversations with them, & even had an argument with a boyfriend. When I next saw him, he sort of remembered - he knew I'd told him that I would come & see him that day, although he didn't know how he knew.
I met one friend in the astral about a year before I met him in person. He died 6 months later, but I've met up with him a few times since then! He's the same as ever.

Good luck in your experiments, & your experiences!

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Randall
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posted November 29, 2003 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Glad someone can do this. I never have any luck.

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Everlong
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posted December 01, 2003 10:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Everlong     Edit/Delete Message
Dude... I just tried it.

And it was pretty incredible

My body started feeling weird and I started shaking a bit, and you know how when you're dreaming your eyes move rapidly? MY EYES STARTED FREAKING OUT! It was so cool! They were spasming without me even doing anything. I don't know if that's a good thing though. I stopped because I'm kinda scared of the dark.

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grayheart
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posted December 04, 2003 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for grayheart     Edit/Delete Message
You are on the right track, the fears that have been expressed need to be addressed however. Astral travel is by no means going to open you up to any form of "possesion" It should be explained better, and I feel the "travel" part is the main thing that scares people, the thought of leaving your body is extremely frightening. As it should be, if you ever did leave your body, it would be a shock to the psyche. But astral travel does not involve actually leaving the body, at no point do you relinquish control of the body. In fact, I would say that you don't even leave it at all.

Astral travel is in fact an extremely powerful version of remote viewing. you are not so much "leaving" you body, as expading you perception outwards until you are tapped into the perception of your higher self, which perceives all at once. You then refocus your perception on the remote location where you wish to travel. I am suggesting that astral travel is like looking through the view finder on a camcorder and zooming all the way in. During our normal day to day routine, we are zoomed in on our own physical area, but zoom out and zoom in on another area and you don't even have to move, simply shift your focus, right? I would state that astral projection works in this way. Our mind/soul/higher self perceive all things, and in our normal day to day activites we are simple focused on our immediate physical surroundings. But we maintain a subconsious knowledge of what is going on outside of that area. All you have to do is zoom out, and back in on the remote location. So the fears about leaving the body or not getting back, or having someone else try to inhabit it while you are gone, are unfounded. Just like if you are focused on something with a camera, if someone else tries to take the camera, you will know about it as soon as they try, same with your body, if anything happens your focus will instantly snap back. This is perhaps what makes astral travel so difficult. things are constantly happening around the body, and so we constantly get pulled back to deal with it. The key is in convincing the percesption to ingnore insignificant disturbances like a fly buzzing or the like, and only pull back if something more significant happens.

Once you get good at astral travel, you may even notice that you hear thing that happen around you body as well as where you are focusing, which can be disconcerting at first, but is relatively easy to learn to deal with. This only further enforces what I am saying. With much practice, I believe that one can even begin to focus on both locations simultaneously, therby allowing awarness of things around the body and wherever you wish to focus, though probably are diminished clarity.

And yes, in case you are wondering I have traveled astrally before, I have even visited my girlfriend in her dream state. She is the only one I have even been able to make my presence known in a dream state, though she is also the only one who has made a joint decision to try to meet in a dream, or astral travel state, and I feel this is the only reason I could reach her, because she allowed it.

Anyway, that is my view, it has served me. I used to feel that it was a scary concept, leaving the body, but once I thought about it and read what people describe about how they feel when the do it, and what how things pull them back, and what they have to do to be able to "travel", I realized that it did not sound any different than using a camcorder with a zoom. And after discovering that I have had only minor difficulties overcoming the distraction of my surrounding and not falling asleep while attempting to tune out my surroundings. If I am well rested and can isolate myself from my dog and other people, and/or unplug the phone, I usually have very little trouble.

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MOONAT
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posted December 20, 2003 05:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MOONAT     Edit/Delete Message
OMG! i just realised that i nearly did this once without knowing what the...? i was doing!

we had to do some kind of meditation in school and we had to lie down, i was soo bored and i wanted to see what was happening, on the other side of the hall, so i imagined that there were two of me, and got the other one of me to fly over nad see what was happening...it wasnt a real OBE, but it was pretty cool.

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