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RedScorp
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posted February 06, 2012 07:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is it's meaning? I heard it was a "dark" asteroid...negative? Is it bad if someone activates it in synastry? Or if it's conjunct a planet in your natal?

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posted February 06, 2012 08:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariesdragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's been a debate on this so thanks for asking your question because I would like to know too.

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posted February 06, 2012 08:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have it on my Asc and I don't look like the devil. LOL

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posted February 06, 2012 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So that means it's squares my Venus

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posted February 06, 2012 08:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Try putting this into google:

site: linda-goodman.com, Lucifer

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RedScorp
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posted February 06, 2012 10:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Stawr:
I have it on my Asc and I don't look like the devil. LOL

Lmfao! Well, it says this asteroid is connected to satanic practices...that sounds kinda horrible. :C

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loffra180
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posted February 07, 2012 12:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for loffra180     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Lucifer 1 degree conjunct my Jupiter, and 1 degree conjunct my MC. Since it is at 8 Leo that also means it 2 degree conjuncts my Hekate and 1 degree conjuncts my Circe, which if you think about it makes sense. However, Lucifer is still a rather scary asteroid.

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posted February 07, 2012 12:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/204571.html

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posted February 07, 2012 12:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for loffra180     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, so through using the definition of Lucifer being the Morning Star and bringing light, it really isn't scary. It's more about me bringing light through my faith, well I think anyway. Hekate and Circe add more of a metaphysical aspect to it, I would think anyway since they are both goddesses of witchcraft. I could be wrong though, I'm a beginner.

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posted February 07, 2012 02:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, so, after reading lengthy descriptions and sorting through useless examples, all I could find was:

Lucifer is the harbinger of light. Aspects affect one' ability to bring light, yes? No?

I can't tell 'cause I couldn't find a straight answer. >:I

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posted February 07, 2012 02:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone got a straight answer for little ol' me about what Lucifer means?

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posted February 07, 2012 05:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Asteroid Lucifer indicates the nature of one's Rebellious Tendencies.
In people of dark polarity, this asteroid would show whether they would indulge in Satanic Rituals.
In the chart of potential victims, this asteroid would show susceptibility to being the victims of murder rituals.
In those with Light Polarity, it will show how they will kick the butt of tyrants.


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posted February 07, 2012 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Starlover     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi,

IQ, what great interps!

Today t. Lucifer's at 22SCO.

Has anyone with a placement at that degree noticed anything?

It has a "little Pluto" feeling sometimes to me. Like if someone I'm interacting with seems to be hiding something or could have an ulterior motive or doesn't seem to be telling the truth, then I check Lucifer and, sure enough, it's in hard aspect to my Sun.

Where it's placed natally I have to be cautious in some aspects of that area of life, but I've also been helped and given the support of others at times when I've been on the receiving end of it.

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posted February 07, 2012 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Starlover:

Today t. Lucifer's at 22SCO.

Has anyone with a placement at that degree noticed anything?


Then that means it's
conjuncting my 2 Lilith Moons and Juno house 6
sextiling my Saturn in house 9
Squaring my Mars house 10

hmm lets see what's new with me...

*been getting lots of extra hours at work, more money yeay...but it's making me act like a crab ass when I'm at home. Cause I have been coming to work early every single day since last week. I'm tired when I get home. Frustrated cause I don't have time to grocery shop, paint my nails, shower soon enough, pick out my clothes for the week. I didn't even bother styling my hair after work last night cause I had a headache. I could go on, and on, and b!tch, and b!tch! But today I slept though my alarm clock. So I only had like 10 minutes to get ready for work...so you bet I did not have enough cafine, probably why I have a headache again. And I had to hide in a corner and atempt to put some make up on at work. But I know this hard work will pay off.

*been shopping a bit more
~yesterday durring my break, I went to barnes and noble
and I was disapionted. Because they don't have Anton Lavey's Satanic bible there anymore. I sware they use to have it. Okay listen I only want to read it because I read a bit about it on wiki and the philosophy of it sounds interesting...I'm not trying to join a cult or anything.
So instead I bought the book "Common Sence" by Thomas Paine.

*and some of my friends are trying to encourage me to take things farther with this guy I only like having a platonic thing with.
~A few nights ago was very awkward and uncomfortible for me because of that.

*tonight I'm taking my first yoga class

that's about it

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posted February 07, 2012 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh and one more thing!
My laptop broke on Saturday so it's at Micro center...so I'm borrowing my mom's for a while.

but last night she fliped out cause I was reading someone's blog...and they had a picture of a snake on their blog...so my mom was all like "what is that a picture of? Is that a snake?" "I think so" "No get that off I wont be having stuff like that on my laptop" (not cause she's scared of them because she thinks they are evil and anti christian and stuff)
So I was like "didn't God create snakes?"
and then she said something like
"yes but he made them to trick humans"
and I was like "why would he do that?, that's stupid." haha

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posted February 07, 2012 07:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by iQ:
Asteroid Lucifer indicates the nature of one's Rebellious Tendencies.
In people of dark polarity, this asteroid would show whether they would indulge in Satanic Rituals.
In the chart of potential victims, this asteroid would show susceptibility to being the victims of murder rituals.
In those with Light Polarity, it will show how they will kick the butt of tyrants.



OOOOOOOOOOOh, rebellious tendencies, okaaaay.

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posted February 07, 2012 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Starlover     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is from Jeff Green from a workshop in 2000:

"Lucifer as a Bearer of Light‭'

"Lucifer is a Latin word that translates into‭ '‬the Bearer of Light.‭' ‬What this means is that the absence of evil or darkness reflects 'the Light' or God/Goddess.‭ ‬Thus,‭ ‬to the extent that we are free from this influence,‭ ‬that very degree allows for the Light of the Source to shine and be known.‭ ‬Since the Asteroid Lucifer seems to correlate to the totality of the archetype of‭ '‬evil‭' ‬and its influence,‭ ‬the location where any of us has the natal symbol of Lucifer,‭ ‬and the aspects it is making to other planets,‭ ‬becomes the very door thru which the Light and truth of God/Goddess can be known.‭ ‬Jeffrey‭"

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posted February 07, 2012 09:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilithpluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Speaking of rebelious tendencies...

I was not really that ill but i went see doc as my flu was on-off since last weekend. The doc gave me 2 days Medical Leave to rest at home (after I "complained" flu, cough and wanted the strongest medicine ).. This comes as an interesting timing as my boss just overloaded me with extra duties and I was angry inside. I seldom take medical leave you see... only work til I cannot bear it, then I leave.

Feel so relax resting at home now (while my colleages slogged it out at work)... my skin even looks more refreshed after just one day rest... I feel so pampered. Hmmm.. gonna go do me some mask

Lucifer sextile Jupiter (1 degree)
Lucifer sexitile Eros (1 degrees)
Lucifer trine Ixion (1 degree)
Lucifer trine Tyche (2 degrees)

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posted February 08, 2012 10:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fondue Knight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Lucifer exactly conjunct my Sun and I have been described as a contrarian.

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posted February 08, 2012 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
found on astro by putting 1930 in extra box, bottom left..

Search Engine for LL http://www.google.com/cse/home?cx=008618649001241799762:gzvuymx7vjg

"Vennus Lucifer retrograde people often find themselves involved in the arts, especially as exemplars dedicating their life and work to new ideals. Such truly avant-garde individuals may be so far ahead of their time that their true stature is recognized only after the close of an often tragic life. In other instances, a struggle against the past and its biological and social imperatives, combined with a search for higher values and ideals, may lead to ascetic practices or to a life of devotion and renunciation. But ironically, such practices and their associated forms of devotion and renunciation, and the values and ideals driving them, are likely to be rooted in a past tradition.
Examples of the denunciatory type include Meher Baba, the once famous "silent mystic", and the female Christian mystic Teresa de Avila. The birth chart of Meher Baba features Venus in the first house Aquarius, with no planets between it and the Sun. Uranus is on the Midheaven, with Scorpio Moon and Saturn retrograde nearby. In the instance of Teresa de Avila, Venus is on the Ascendant and Mercury rises between it and the Sun. Pluto retrograde is on the Midheaven" http://www.khaldea.com/planets/venus_lx.shtml

"Venus is seen stationary, turning direct, about three weeks after its inferior conjunction with the Sun, marking the beginning of the approximately nine-month long Lucifer-Direct phase of Venus. During this face of Venus, the emotions become more relaxed, free-flowing and less encumbered by fear of loss, hurt and rejection.
Venus Lucifer direct people are not necessarily more emotional, or even more emotionally demonstrative, than Venus Lucifer retrograde types. But whereas Lucifer retrograde people internalize emotional difficulties, often to an intense degree, and tend to fear or anticipate future emotional hurt, Lucifer direct people are more emotionally relaxed, at ease and resilient. They seem to quickly bounce back from a romantic break-up, a personal rejection, a disappointment or an insult. Because they appear to bounce back so easily, and because they do not always appear to register emotional impacts, Lucifer direct types sometimes seem like emotionally detached social butterflies. But such an impression can be deceptive because Lucifer direct people can be very adapt at concealing their emotions, which are often far more intense, delicate and vulnerable than they care to reveal. This is especially so of people born during the early part of the Lucifer direct phase, because they tend to be working their way out of the Venus retrograde character, and are therefore more delicate emotionally than those born later on in the phase, who tend to possess quicker, more fluid emotional natures.
Venus Lucifer types often conceal the more vibrant (and dark) sides of their emotions because they desire to fit into the cultural mainstream, a tactic Venus Morning Star direct people often feel will at once give them a greater sense of self-worth and enable them to effect their culture and its values and ideals more successfully. Nevertheless, Lucifer direct people can be very direct and demonstrative regarding their feelings, and they tend to have an open and optimistic approach to life and to relationships.
Venus Lucifer direct people are often involved in promoting new values, ideals, outlooks and ways of life created or exemplified by others. They do not wish to live a life "against the grain," which is more the destiny of Lucifer retrograde types. And because they wish to "fit in," they tend not to "act out" their emotional turmoil as fully as Venus Morning Star retrograde types." http://www.khaldea.com/planets/venus_ld.shtml

"Lucifer means lightbringer, from the Latin lux ”light” and ferre ”to bear or bring.” The word Lucifer is found in only one place in the Bible — Isaiah 14:12 — but only in the King James and related versions: “How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! . . .” In other translations we find: “O shining star of the dawn!” (Moffatt) or “O morning-star, son of the dawn!” (Hebrew Bible). The King James Version is based on the Vulgate, the Latin translation of Jerome. Jerome translated the Hebrew helel (bright or brilliant one) as “lucifer,” which was a reasonable Latin equivalent. And yet it is this lucifer, the bright one or lightbearer, that came to be understood by so many as the name for Satan, Lord of Darkness." http://blog.beliefnet.com/astrologicalmusings/2009/07/lucifer-satan-or-venus.html
http://schoolofevolutionaryastrology.com/school/lucifer-adversary-vs-bearer-of-light

to read the full articles click on links..

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posted February 08, 2012 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by loffra180:
I have Lucifer 1 degree conjunct my Jupiter, and 1 degree conjunct my MC. Since it is at 8 Leo that also means it 2 degree conjuncts my Hekate and 1 degree conjuncts my Circe, which if you think about it makes sense. However, Lucifer is still a rather scary asteroid.

Loff,

Huh. Maybe you were a bad priestess. Part of why some of the weirdness going on in this life could be asking you to re-examine your relationship to the occult?

I jokingly say I have both Mulder (Scorpio Moon-Mercury-Uranus) AND Scully (Jupiter-Saturn in Virgo) in my chart. It helps keep me balanced regarding how to approach a thing -- even if those two will NOT give me peace some days.

Of course, on others, I have to go, 'OKAY! OKAY! It's aliens. Jesus, can I have my coffee now?'

Just consider the potential that your Lucifer in connection to Jupiter (big, grandiose things, religion, excess, all that) might be pointing to somewhere in the past that you misused your talents, gifts, to bring harm to others. Especially that high in the chart. You could've achieved some notoriety (in the traditional sense) for it, and it became a 'calling'.

... Which, now that I think on it - you might want to check Olivian more than Pyrossa. I'll get you in touch with Jane. And you and I can discuss someone I've not told you about entirely, but who's something of a secondary villainess who makes a bigger splash in S2.


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posted February 08, 2012 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Starlover:
Hi,

IQ, what great interps!

Today t. Lucifer's at 22SCO.

Has anyone with a placement at that degree noticed anything?

It has a "little Pluto" feeling sometimes to me. Like if someone I'm interacting with seems to be hiding something or could have an ulterior motive or doesn't seem to be telling the truth, then I check Lucifer and, sure enough, it's in hard aspect to my Sun.

Where it's placed natally I have to be cautious in some aspects of that area of life, but I've also been helped and given the support of others at times when I've been on the receiving end of it.


Huh. Moon-Ura here. I've certainly been very 'YOU CAN'T MAKE ME!' the last few days. Not that I've been flat-out willing to 'break out', but damn, if it doesn't fit with where I'M going, then DON'T EVEN TRY.

... So, maybe. Definitely warrants more investigation.

My partner would have it on his Saturn. He's been feeling rather sick of his present circumstances, too, but with so MUCH natal Saturn butting up against a natural Uranian personality with Jupiter strong, he's kind of just staying put and -- evidently making himself sick. We BOTH got sick yesterday, even though we're nowhere near each other.

Oh! He was also genetically engineering E. Coli yesterday. We're not sure if there's a connection. Is E. Coli satanic? ;p


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posted February 11, 2012 01:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlackSeraph     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm, transit Lucifer at 22 Sco would put it sextile my natal Lucifer. Heh... jury's still out on this one.

About my natal Lucifer (22 Cap 22'14" (R)), I've taken a second look and it seems to be quintile my Ixion (10 Sco 47'35"). I know a Quintile's supposed to be a creative aspect of sorts... I'm not sure what to say on this one though. I'll have to double-check this when I'm not about to pass out.

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