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T O P I C R E V I E WelectricmindI'm thinking that hard aspects between the Moon and Venus, or an afflicted Venus and or Moon would make it difficult for one to perceive love.What do you think?raspberriPercieve love how?In which way?electricmindknowing/feeling that someone loves you, or that their actions are an expression of love.kfn327I have Venus square Mars, and I think I suffer from this.raspberriLike always expecting someone to hurt you, or that they are insincere?I'd say Moon/Venus/Saturn/Pluto/Chiron afflicted. electricmind quote:Originally posted by kfn327:I have Venus square Mars, and I think I suffer from this.How so?Ami AnneI have an unaspected Venus which I am just integrating. I erased a few posts cuz I can't find the words to express how the nature of Venus feels to me. I will see if I can think about it and get back .------------------If I am not for myself, who am I? If I am only for myself, what am I , BruhAmi AnnedpdysfunctionalmysticI have problems with the question - some will claim to love yet their "love" is conditional or duty based. I think all of us have a different idea of what love really is and the hard aspects will generally think deeply about such issues and be very clear about what love is for them. If one senses the love offered is insincere or not the kind of love one is seeking does that still mean that the individual has difficulty perceiving love or are they just more based in reality?It's a word that is flung around like confetti and has lost much of its meaning due to its flippant use. If it's the kind of love I want, from the people I want then I'll take it, otherwise I'd rather do without.Horrifically afflicted Venus at 29 virgo conjunct Pluto both being squared by Saturn, Venus inconjunct Mars but thankfully trine to Jupiter and sextile to Neptune,Moon is no better conjunct with chiron opposing uranus and quindecile pluto but trine the sun and merc, quintile saturn and jupiter and its the head of a thors hammer with neptune and the mc. kfn327My exes & my current love have expressed that nothing done or said seems to be "good enough" for me, and I've been asked many times (in many ways), "Can you seriously not feel my love?" I've often attributed this to LG's quote, "Aries must learn that love is trust, and teach that love is innocence." I have major trust & commitment issues.I've deluded myself (Sun square Neptune?)into thinking, "I would feel if someone loved me, since my Moon and Mercury are in Pisces."I also have a lot of BPD tendencies. One way this has manifested: I tend to focus on my last interaction with someone and disregard our total history. In other words, when the slightest unpleasantry occurs, I forget all the good and focus on this last bad occurrence alone. On the other hand, someone can consistently treat me poorly, but if we run into each other and have a pleasant interaction, I'm likely to think, "Man, they're actually pretty cool."electricmind@kfn327I can relate to everything you are saying. I always say that I have emotional amnesia. I can so easily "forget" my last encounter with someone, good or bad, and just be in the moment of the current good time. But often that results in me never dealing with my sh!t and i just carry it around with me.I've have Aries Moon square Neptune, Jupiter and my Ascendant. And Aries square Venus by sign (Venus in Capricorn)Obviously there is a lot of delusion going on. "I always say, if you really loved me, you'd do this...and not that"I'm quite defensive. I think that could be my Aries IC. At my core, my deepest intimate self as operating out of survival.electricmind@kfn327I can relate to everything you are saying. I always say that I have emotional amnesia. I can so easily "forget" my last encounter with someone, good or bad, and just be in the moment of the current good time. But often that results in me never dealing with my sh!t and i just carry it around with me.I've have Aries Moon square Neptune, Jupiter and my Ascendant. And Aries square Venus by sign (Venus in Capricorn)Obviously there is a lot of delusion going on. "I always say, if you really loved me, you'd do this...and not that"I'm quite defensive. I think that could be my Aries IC. At my core, my deepest intimate self as operating out of survival.letrami probably have the most afflicted venus and moon on this entire site.to answer the question: i don't have trouble perceiving love, i think perhaps my love desires are complex though.which makes sense to me, the more planets aspectign moon and venus, are likely all the kinds of planetary energy or themes you need to feel loved.for example,in my chart, i have moon square Jupiter, Neptune & Saturn. and oppose Venus. if you consider wide squares of 7, then my moon squares uranus too.my venus squares jupiter, saturn, uranus and opposes my moon and if you consider the wide orbs of 7 again, then my venus squares neptune. (i feel the shoe fits a bit for these wide aspects).my venus is in libra, moon in aries.my moon needs to come first (aries)my venus needs time and companionship.i think saturn on these planets needs commitment.uranus needs excitement and something different.jupiter needs something.. i am feeling it needs fun, but also trust and ethics. but perhaps jupiter and these other planets go the other way - needing space, refusing to find commitment.neptune needs a bit of dreamyness.venus oppose moon.moon needs venusian stuff.venus needs lunar stuff.i have a grand square between these planets.complex boots for a woman to fit in!letramI always say, if you really loved me, you'd do this...and not thatyes i relate to those thoughts,i think its to do with ourselves being insecure ?electricmind quote:Originally posted by letram:I always say, if you really loved me, you'd do this...and not thatyes i relate to those thoughts,i think its to do with ourselves being insecure ?yea. insecurity for sure. always testing people to see if its real.raspberriFor me, Love is when someone sacrificing things for me. They RISK. That shows true love.Sometimes, people can't sacrifice. It's dissapointing. letramperhaps the 5th and 8th house needs to be looked at.in my 5th house are saturn/uranus/neptune.letrami expect sacrifices too.not to show love by doing them but, if something comes between us, and it means us, our love, and ME or the thing that is the other choice, i would expect in true love that they sacrifice that.but im not unreasonable.raspberri5th is giving love11th is accepting i think...Saturn and Uranus rule my 5th houseSun rules my 11th houseelectricmind5th and 8th houses are emtpy.Venus rules 5th. Its in the first in Capricron. It is inconjunct my NN and quintile Pluto.Sun rules the 8th. Sun is in Aquarius in the 2nd square Saturn and Mars, sextile Uranus.
I'd say Moon/Venus/Saturn/Pluto/Chiron afflicted.
quote:Originally posted by kfn327:I have Venus square Mars, and I think I suffer from this.
------------------If I am not for myself, who am I? If I am only for myself, what am I , Bruh
If one senses the love offered is insincere or not the kind of love one is seeking does that still mean that the individual has difficulty perceiving love or are they just more based in reality?
It's a word that is flung around like confetti and has lost much of its meaning due to its flippant use. If it's the kind of love I want, from the people I want then I'll take it, otherwise I'd rather do without.
Horrifically afflicted Venus at 29 virgo conjunct Pluto both being squared by Saturn, Venus inconjunct Mars but thankfully trine to Jupiter and sextile to Neptune,
Moon is no better conjunct with chiron opposing uranus and quindecile pluto but trine the sun and merc, quintile saturn and jupiter and its the head of a thors hammer with neptune and the mc.
I've often attributed this to LG's quote, "Aries must learn that love is trust, and teach that love is innocence." I have major trust & commitment issues.
I've deluded myself (Sun square Neptune?)into thinking, "I would feel if someone loved me, since my Moon and Mercury are in Pisces."
I also have a lot of BPD tendencies. One way this has manifested: I tend to focus on my last interaction with someone and disregard our total history. In other words, when the slightest unpleasantry occurs, I forget all the good and focus on this last bad occurrence alone. On the other hand, someone can consistently treat me poorly, but if we run into each other and have a pleasant interaction, I'm likely to think, "Man, they're actually pretty cool."
I can relate to everything you are saying. I always say that I have emotional amnesia. I can so easily "forget" my last encounter with someone, good or bad, and just be in the moment of the current good time. But often that results in me never dealing with my sh!t and i just carry it around with me.
I've have Aries Moon square Neptune, Jupiter and my Ascendant. And Aries square Venus by sign (Venus in Capricorn)
Obviously there is a lot of delusion going on. "I always say, if you really loved me, you'd do this...and not that"
I'm quite defensive. I think that could be my Aries IC. At my core, my deepest intimate self as operating out of survival.
to answer the question: i don't have trouble perceiving love, i think perhaps my love desires are complex though.
which makes sense to me, the more planets aspectign moon and venus, are likely all the kinds of planetary energy or themes you need to feel loved.
for example,
in my chart, i have moon square Jupiter, Neptune & Saturn. and oppose Venus. if you consider wide squares of 7, then my moon squares uranus too.
my venus squares jupiter, saturn, uranus and opposes my moon and if you consider the wide orbs of 7 again, then my venus squares neptune. (i feel the shoe fits a bit for these wide aspects).
my venus is in libra, moon in aries.
my moon needs to come first (aries)
my venus needs time and companionship.
i think saturn on these planets needs commitment.
uranus needs excitement and something different.
jupiter needs something.. i am feeling it needs fun, but also trust and ethics. but perhaps jupiter and these other planets go the other way - needing space, refusing to find commitment.
neptune needs a bit of dreamyness.
venus oppose moon.
moon needs venusian stuff.
venus needs lunar stuff.
i have a grand square between these planets.
complex boots for a woman to fit in!
yes i relate to those thoughts,
i think its to do with ourselves being insecure ?
quote:Originally posted by letram:I always say, if you really loved me, you'd do this...and not thatyes i relate to those thoughts,i think its to do with ourselves being insecure ?
yea. insecurity for sure. always testing people to see if its real.
Sometimes, people can't sacrifice. It's dissapointing.
in my 5th house are saturn/uranus/neptune.
not to show love by doing them but, if something comes between us, and it means us, our love, and ME or the thing that is the other choice, i would expect in true love that they sacrifice that.
but im not unreasonable.
Saturn and Uranus rule my 5th houseSun rules my 11th house
Sun rules the 8th. Sun is in Aquarius in the 2nd square Saturn and Mars, sextile Uranus.
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