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T O P I C R E V I E Wlovelyricha1So I had briefly met this boy in 2016, and then nothing. And then just about 2 months ago, 1st november to be precise we meet again. And now things seem to be getting interesting. Would like to see if this is heading for platonic friendship or something more? I have a 'fated' feeling about this and softissues very kindly pointed out that we have venus conjunct nn that is 'fated' so am interested in knowing how does it play out usually...because I haven't had the best luck in terms of relationships thus far.I know basics of natal chart readings and I know that I have natal venus-pluto-neptune connections that give me ultra dose of 'rose tinted glasses' as well as obsessive streaks in terms of relationships..so I just want to let the more experienced ones here take a look at these charts before I get tooooo obsessed I am a complete noob at understanding synastries, composites, davisons, so just call it as you see it, appreciate the honesty most of all This is SYNASTRY (I am inner, him outer) This is COMPOSITE MID POINT METHOD This is DAVISON UNCORRECTED RandallBump!Stoika7Hi lovelyricha1yes there are fated elements and this relationship may get very intense emotionally, passionate and with strong expectations, this is cause composite Sun/Eros is conjunct MC, Saturn in Capricorn is sextile North Node/Venus, and Moon/Jupiter midpoint is conjunct Vertex and square Neptune. This is actually matching with a "'rose tinted glasses' relationship, initially, cause it could sweep off your feet and give you a strong soulmate feeling. My concern in both synastry and composite is about the Chiron aspects. His Saturn/Chiron opposition square your Saturn is a tough one, as he has a "secluded" trait linked to poor self-assertiveness and maybe in need of constant emotional support that may become a heavy burden to you or such an issue may prevent him to commit with you seriously cause Composite Mars is conjunct ASC and square Sun/MC... this aspects looks more sexual than leading to a long term union. Composite Chiron is opposite Neptune and square vertex... this may contain a toxic trait or indication that the relationship has an unattainable side and expectations may not be realistic. My feeling is that it all may look very promising but turning out as a false promise in the end, despite the intensity of feelings, and that he may withdraw as soon as things get more serious.Since composite Vertex is so strong along the nodes and Moon in 12th square MC, this may actually never take off the ground as expected. If it does instead, I would warn you of potential inner upheaval this relationship may bring to you, cause the Chiron aspects look potentially "toxic" to me, potentially triggering your own issues about "failing" in relationship matters (your natal Saturn in 7th house). toddWhoopslovelyricha1 quote:Originally posted by Stoika7:Hi lovelyricha1yes there are fated elements and this relationship may get very intense emotionally, passionate and with strong expectations, this is cause composite Sun/Eros is conjunct MC, Saturn in Capricorn is sextile North Node/Venus, and Moon/Jupiter midpoint is conjunct Vertex and square Neptune. This is actually matching with a "'rose tinted glasses' relationship, initially, cause it could sweep off your feet and give you a strong soulmate feeling. My concern in both synastry and composite is about the Chiron aspects. His Saturn/Chiron opposition square your Saturn is a tough one, as he has a "secluded" trait linked to poor self-assertiveness and maybe in need of constant emotional support that may become a heavy burden to you or such an issue may prevent him to commit with you seriously cause Composite Mars is conjunct ASC and square Sun/MC... this aspects looks more sexual than leading to a long term union. Composite Chiron is opposite Neptune and square vertex... this may contain a toxic trait or indication that the relationship has an unattainable side and expectations may not be realistic. My feeling is that it all may look very promising but turning out as a false promise in the end, despite the intensity of feelings, and that he may withdraw as soon as things get more serious.Since composite Vertex is so strong along the nodes and Moon in 12th square MC, this may actually never take off the ground as expected. If it does instead, I would warn you of potential inner upheaval this relationship may bring to you, cause the Chiron aspects look potentially "toxic" to me, potentially triggering your own issues about "failing" in relationship matters (your natal Saturn in 7th house). Dayummmmmm! Thanks so much Stoika, your analysis is indeed mesmerizing 👍 I am inclined to believe everything you said about the long term problems with this relationship because the main thing is, this boy is extremely closed off and secluded by nature...so it is impossible to know what's happening in his mind..can you believe it he is an actor! And even his characters have that quietness and seclusion qualities that lend them a mysterious air..but I reckon that in a real life relationship it won't be good for long term prospects *sigh*So I should assume that the 'fated' thing means I was supposed to meet him and just be an emotional support maybe as a friend? I am so confused..because I don't know what in my natal chart shows this, but I keep meeting guys every few years (without seeking any relationship) and it becomes serious and it always has a 'fated' quality and then it doesn't work out. It is massively depressing Anyway,I think it is better to temper my expectations accordingly, this relationship is still in the beginning stages so I can still train my mind to be less obsessed *fingers crossed* lovelyricha1 quote:Originally posted by todd:WhoopsWhoops?? What is whoops?? Todd? Todd?? Todd??? Stoika7yes he's secluded and he's an actor cause natal neptune is in 10th house square venus/asc, and chiron in leo/5th opposite saturn helps him in opening out there to the world through acting, this is likely the only way he can connect to the outer world and find his self-assertiveness, through acting.Composite north Node/Venus in 11th house, friendship is a possibility... but he wont feel at ease with you if you question his inner issue and are not in tune with his emotional depth and artistic/self-centered ambition. lovelyricha1 quote:Originally posted by Stoika7:yes he's secluded and he's an actor cause natal neptune is in 10th house square venus/asc, and chiron in leo/5th opposite saturn helps him in opening out there to the world through acting, this is likely the only way he can connect to the outer world and find his self-assertiveness, through acting.Composite north Node/Venus in 11th house, friendship is a possibility... but he wont feel at ease with you if you question his inner issue and are not in tune with his emotional depth and artistic/self-centered ambition. Makes sense Stoika, appreciate it a lot, thanks so so much lovelyricha1 quote:Originally posted by lovelyricha1: Whoops?? What is whoops?? Todd? Todd?? Todd??? Tooooooodddddddddd todd quote:Originally posted by lovelyricha1: Tooooooodddddddddd I posted the wrong interpretation yesterday....Any ways just a couple of points.This will never be platonic because there is just too much emotional/sexual chemistry...but it will not be a long term hookup either..a intense affair but no more.The sun/moon midpoint is conjunct the Venus/node so this is all about boy meets girl.Venus is septile to mars and the midpoint conunct lilth,,coupled with the node Venus gives a otherworldly attraction..one may feel this is so karmic something serious must develop.But the Mars/Venus is also square to Uranus which indicates ungodly intensity but extreme instabity.once he is surfeited of the intensity he will leave....though he may want a open relationship so as to keep you as an option.The Uranus/mars midpoint is also square to Jupiter,which again shows he has no interest in a committed relationship.No question it is very exciting and hot but pay no attention to any promises madetodrlovelyricha1Dear God, Toddddddd You don't sugarcoat anything, do you LOVE it. This is exactly what one needs to hear...for sure I needed to hear...As an aside, my natal saturn in 7th, does that indicate I will keep meeting such karmic/fated people again and again with nothing long term? Because this is the 3rd time in my life this is happening...meet someone awesome, things seem interesting and then craaaaaaaash. What the heck is wrong with my love life toddRIt terms of your social/romantic nature you are a bit of a manic/ depressive,but not stop n a pathological way.Jupiter and Venus in your 9 are favoablexfor serious relationnships,but Saturn in the 7th is a unfavorable for the preliminary of dating.it might be you give off a serious attitude to readily.Your moon/Saturn which is action nice or commitment and loyalty has it's midpoint square to mars which is also somewhat anticipative of closeness.Though these aspects are "grounded", you sun is conjunct to uranus which makes you very excitable .hence your moods can swing back and forth.Your Venus/mars midpoint is square to Pluto which gives you a focus on physical appetites rather than emotional bonding.Then your Saturn is square to psyche which gives you are ingenue vaccine bration that attracts older men who were expect a degree of emotional fragility rather than a deep personal strength as you have.With a strong Saturn one would expect significant relationships to form in your third decade.toddlovelyricha1Thank you Todd...now I can try and engage my manic/depressive tendencies more constructively rather than get obsessed with relationships..maybe meditation will help? Will look into it. Appreciate your insights a lot 👍lovelyricha1@Graham, any thoughts? I am interested in knowing what Davison chart shows...as Stoika and Todd have pointed out, our relationship has a very fated element..and right now it is hot and exciting but does Davison add or delete from the 'fatedness' or shows something else? Very curious about it lovelyricha1Just wanted to thank you guys, Todd, Stoika, Softissues...you were bang on point. The actor behaved in exactly the non-committal way in terms of long term relationship as you had pointed out. Sure it was unbelievably intense while it lasted but I would trade this intensity for a lifetime of commitment and surety any day...In fact Todd he did bring up the point of being in an 'open' sort of arrangement and that just made me chuckle because you had accurately said this that he may want to keep me as an option and want something in the open realm. So accurate!I have put up a new potential relationship up for study, if you guys have time RandallBump!
Would like to see if this is heading for platonic friendship or something more? I have a 'fated' feeling about this and softissues very kindly pointed out that we have venus conjunct nn that is 'fated' so am interested in knowing how does it play out usually...because I haven't had the best luck in terms of relationships thus far.
I know basics of natal chart readings and I know that I have natal venus-pluto-neptune connections that give me ultra dose of 'rose tinted glasses' as well as obsessive streaks in terms of relationships..so I just want to let the more experienced ones here take a look at these charts before I get tooooo obsessed
I am a complete noob at understanding synastries, composites, davisons, so just call it as you see it, appreciate the honesty most of all
This is SYNASTRY (I am inner, him outer)
This is COMPOSITE MID POINT METHOD
This is DAVISON UNCORRECTED
yes there are fated elements and this relationship may get very intense emotionally, passionate and with strong expectations, this is cause composite Sun/Eros is conjunct MC, Saturn in Capricorn is sextile North Node/Venus, and Moon/Jupiter midpoint is conjunct Vertex and square Neptune. This is actually matching with a "'rose tinted glasses' relationship, initially, cause it could sweep off your feet and give you a strong soulmate feeling. My concern in both synastry and composite is about the Chiron aspects. His Saturn/Chiron opposition square your Saturn is a tough one, as he has a "secluded" trait linked to poor self-assertiveness and maybe in need of constant emotional support that may become a heavy burden to you or such an issue may prevent him to commit with you seriously cause Composite Mars is conjunct ASC and square Sun/MC... this aspects looks more sexual than leading to a long term union. Composite Chiron is opposite Neptune and square vertex... this may contain a toxic trait or indication that the relationship has an unattainable side and expectations may not be realistic. My feeling is that it all may look very promising but turning out as a false promise in the end, despite the intensity of feelings, and that he may withdraw as soon as things get more serious.Since composite Vertex is so strong along the nodes and Moon in 12th square MC, this may actually never take off the ground as expected. If it does instead, I would warn you of potential inner upheaval this relationship may bring to you, cause the Chiron aspects look potentially "toxic" to me, potentially triggering your own issues about "failing" in relationship matters (your natal Saturn in 7th house).
quote:Originally posted by Stoika7:Hi lovelyricha1yes there are fated elements and this relationship may get very intense emotionally, passionate and with strong expectations, this is cause composite Sun/Eros is conjunct MC, Saturn in Capricorn is sextile North Node/Venus, and Moon/Jupiter midpoint is conjunct Vertex and square Neptune. This is actually matching with a "'rose tinted glasses' relationship, initially, cause it could sweep off your feet and give you a strong soulmate feeling. My concern in both synastry and composite is about the Chiron aspects. His Saturn/Chiron opposition square your Saturn is a tough one, as he has a "secluded" trait linked to poor self-assertiveness and maybe in need of constant emotional support that may become a heavy burden to you or such an issue may prevent him to commit with you seriously cause Composite Mars is conjunct ASC and square Sun/MC... this aspects looks more sexual than leading to a long term union. Composite Chiron is opposite Neptune and square vertex... this may contain a toxic trait or indication that the relationship has an unattainable side and expectations may not be realistic. My feeling is that it all may look very promising but turning out as a false promise in the end, despite the intensity of feelings, and that he may withdraw as soon as things get more serious.Since composite Vertex is so strong along the nodes and Moon in 12th square MC, this may actually never take off the ground as expected. If it does instead, I would warn you of potential inner upheaval this relationship may bring to you, cause the Chiron aspects look potentially "toxic" to me, potentially triggering your own issues about "failing" in relationship matters (your natal Saturn in 7th house).
Dayummmmmm! Thanks so much Stoika, your analysis is indeed mesmerizing 👍 I am inclined to believe everything you said about the long term problems with this relationship because the main thing is, this boy is extremely closed off and secluded by nature...so it is impossible to know what's happening in his mind..can you believe it he is an actor! And even his characters have that quietness and seclusion qualities that lend them a mysterious air..but I reckon that in a real life relationship it won't be good for long term prospects *sigh*
So I should assume that the 'fated' thing means I was supposed to meet him and just be an emotional support maybe as a friend? I am so confused..because I don't know what in my natal chart shows this, but I keep meeting guys every few years (without seeking any relationship) and it becomes serious and it always has a 'fated' quality and then it doesn't work out. It is massively depressing
Anyway,I think it is better to temper my expectations accordingly, this relationship is still in the beginning stages so I can still train my mind to be less obsessed *fingers crossed*
quote:Originally posted by todd:Whoops
Whoops?? What is whoops?? Todd? Todd?? Todd???
quote:Originally posted by Stoika7:yes he's secluded and he's an actor cause natal neptune is in 10th house square venus/asc, and chiron in leo/5th opposite saturn helps him in opening out there to the world through acting, this is likely the only way he can connect to the outer world and find his self-assertiveness, through acting.Composite north Node/Venus in 11th house, friendship is a possibility... but he wont feel at ease with you if you question his inner issue and are not in tune with his emotional depth and artistic/self-centered ambition.
Makes sense Stoika, appreciate it a lot, thanks so so much
quote:Originally posted by lovelyricha1: Whoops?? What is whoops?? Todd? Todd?? Todd???
Tooooooodddddddddd
quote:Originally posted by lovelyricha1: Tooooooodddddddddd
I posted the wrong interpretation yesterday....Any ways just a couple of points.This will never be platonic because there is just too much emotional/sexual chemistry...but it will not be a long term hookup either..a intense affair but no more.The sun/moon midpoint is conjunct the Venus/node so this is all about boy meets girl.Venus is septile to mars and the midpoint conunct lilth,,coupled with the node Venus gives a otherworldly attraction..one may feel this is so karmic something serious must develop.But the Mars/Venus is also square to Uranus which indicates ungodly intensity but extreme instabity.once he is surfeited of the intensity he will leave....though he may want a open relationship so as to keep you as an option.
The Uranus/mars midpoint is also square to Jupiter,which again shows he has no interest in a committed relationship.
No question it is very exciting and hot but pay no attention to any promises made
todr
As an aside, my natal saturn in 7th, does that indicate I will keep meeting such karmic/fated people again and again with nothing long term? Because this is the 3rd time in my life this is happening...meet someone awesome, things seem interesting and then craaaaaaaash. What the heck is wrong with my love life
In fact Todd he did bring up the point of being in an 'open' sort of arrangement and that just made me chuckle because you had accurately said this that he may want to keep me as an option and want something in the open realm. So accurate!
I have put up a new potential relationship up for study, if you guys have time
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