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T O P I C R E V I E WTravelmanHas anyone heard about this?I have one with my gf where we have Merucry (19°09'35), Venus (16°53'55) and Mars (20°43'41) in Aquarius in House 10 which is opposite Leo sun (19°20'11) in House 4 and Sextile Sag Saturn (21°53'12) in House 8 and Aries rising (24°32'16), as well as trine Libra DSC (24°32'16), Juno, and Vertex (both 20 degrees), trine Gem Ceres (17 degrees) and Chiron (25 degrees).Moon trine pluto (1 orb) and sextile neptune (2 orb) is nice too."What is a love stellium in astrology? This is when on a composite chart (the mid-point planet relationship chart) there are planets clustered together in one to three different areas or houses. When planets (3 or more) are conjunct (sitting next to each other) it creates a loving, harmonious relationship."LaceyLeighI think it’s Sun/Mercury/Venus conjunct that makes it a love stellium. There’s a ton of threads on it. It’s supposed to indicate true love but it’s not fool-proof. It was first coined by a user named RunAroundScreaming who I believe passed away a few years ago. RIPTravelmanSo it is just a "normal" stellium?Sorry to hear about this user MMarieYou have both Leo and Sag sun written in your post but if it’s the Leo sun opposite the stellium I believe it would be just as good as a “love stellium”. I’ve read opposites in composite act similar to conjunctions. Somna7H quote:Originally posted by LaceyLeigh:I think it’s Sun/Mercury/Venus conjunct that makes it a love stellium. There’s a ton of threads on it. It’s supposed to indicate true love but it’s not fool-proof. It was first coined by a user named RunAroundScreaming who I believe passed away a few years ago. RIP What ?I don't think that way.Checked my composite and found Sun, Mercury, Venus including Vertex in 7th House. Here is the chart. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/009368.html ------------------My Chat : http://imgur.com/hCRDawDLaceyLeigh quote:Originally posted by Somna7H: What ?I don't think that way.Checked my composite and found Sun, Mercury, Venus including Vertex in 7th House. Here is the chart. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/009368.html Yeah, that’s the love stellium! It’s not fool-proof of course and the tighter it is, the stronger the feelings are.Hikaru29Like what LaceyLeigh said, the love stellium refers to Sun-Mercury-Venus conjunct or opposition. This is generally a very good indicator (not solely) of a potentially close and loving relationship. However, it isn’t almighty. If it’s afflicted by 2 or more outer planets (especially Saturn/Uranus/Neptune) it can greatly alter the quality of this stellium. I didn’t include Pluto because according to RAS and my own experience, Pluto makes the love more intense and it can be good if both learn to manage the negative sides of Pluto which is control and jealousy.Hikaru29DpLaceyLeigh quote:Originally posted by Travelman:So it is just a "normal" stellium?Sorry to hear about this user I didn’t see that it was all opposite Venus, I just saw Sun/Mercury/Mars conjunct! You have a love stellium if it’s all opposite Venus! Hikaru29 quote:Originally posted by Travelman:Has anyone heard about this?I have one with my gf where we have Merucry (19°09'35), Venus (16°53'55) and Mars (20°43'41) in Aquarius in House 10 which is opposite Leo sun (19°20'11) in House 4 and Sextile Sag Sun (21°53'12) in House 8 and Aries rising (24°32'16), as well as trine Libra DSC (24°32'16), Juno, and Vertex (both 20 degrees), trine Gem Ceres (17 degrees) and Chiron (25 degrees).Moon trine pluto (1 orb) and sextile neptune (2 orb) is nice too."What is a love stellium in astrology? This is when on a composite chart (the mid-point planet relationship chart) there are planets clustered together in one to three different areas or houses. When planets (3 or more) are conjunct (sitting next to each other) it creates a loving, harmonious relationship."You definitely have a love stellium there as opposition is counted as well. Can you share your experience with having those Pluto squares? I’m curious as my guy and I also have Pluto square our love stellium and someone insisted this will be a toxic rs but I don’t experience that.Somna7H quote:Originally posted by LaceyLeigh: Yeah, that’s the love stellium! It’s not fool-proof of course and the tighter it is, the stronger the feelings are.Thank you very much for confirming.I still have feeling for her but don't know about her. First 6 or 7 months were very strong. May be my current time is not good for me.ARB1997 quote:Originally posted by Hikaru29:Like what LaceyLeigh said, the love stellium refers to Sun-Mercury-Venus conjunct or opposition. This is generally a very good indicator (not solely) of a potentially close and loving relationship. However, it isn’t almighty. If it’s afflicted by 2 or more outer planets (especially Saturn/Uranus/Neptune) it can greatly alter the quality of this stellium. I didn’t include Pluto because according to RAS and my own experience, Pluto makes the love more intense and it can be good if both learn to manage the negative sides of Pluto which is control and jealousy.@ Hikaru29Could you please explain what how a love stellium that is afflicted by two or more outer planets would manifest like? Would they not love each other as much?Hikaru29 quote:Originally posted by ARB1997: [QUOTE]@ Hikaru29Could you please explain what how a love stellium that is afflicted by two or more outer planets would manifest like? Would they not love each other as much?Feelings should be seen through Synastry, not composite. IMO a composite afflicted by 2 or more outer planets shows a lot of challenges. How it will manifest depends on which planet is afflicting it. With Saturn there can be a lot of coldness and criticism, with Uranus a lot of fights over structure and freedom, with Neptune a lot of idealism then disappointments. Even with a love stellium, the relationship can eventually sour (especially if one or both are not mature to handle conflicts). Note that I’m not talking about 2 or 3 squares but afflictions to the entire stellium.I ever saw a friend’s composite with Sun-Venus-Mercury-Moon stellium but afflicted by 2 or 3 outer planets (can’t remember which ones but I know Saturn is involved). They were on/off, couldn’t achieve stability and she finds the guy unreliable. They also had intimacy issue...he seemed to be afraid of coming close to her even though he liked her a lot. But despite the challenges they kept coming back together. I don’t know if they’re still together though.I also had a Sun-Mercury-Mars stellium with Venus opposite Mercury/Mars with my ex, so kinda like a half love stellium there. They’re afflicted by Saturn and Neptune. I suffered so much pain in that relationship. He was very critical and controlling and treated me like a door mat. Also felt extremely disillusioned towards the end as he was sooo nice, romantic and gentlemanly when he was chasing me.Travelman quote:Originally posted by MMarie:You have both Leo and Sag sun written in your post but if it’s the Leo sun opposite the stellium I believe it would be just as good as a “love stellium”. I’ve read opposites in composite act similar to conjunctions. Sorry, that should say Sag Saturn. I edited.Yes, it is a Leo Sun.Travelman quote:Originally posted by Hikaru29: You definitely have a love stellium there as opposition is counted as well. Can you share your experience with having those Pluto squares? I’m curious as my guy and I also have Pluto square our love stellium and someone insisted this will be a toxic rs but I don’t experience that.Pluto does not do much in our composite. It is at 9 degrees so it is too wide of an orb for the aqua planets in Venus, Mercury, and Mars (16, 19 and 20 degrees, respectively) but it does trine moon by exactly 1 degree which I guess adds to those intense feelings and sextile Neptune by 2 degrees and an exact inconjunct Jupiter.zionkay quote:Originally posted by Hikaru29: You definitely have a love stellium there as opposition is counted as well. Can you share your experience with having those Pluto squares? I’m curious as my guy and I also have Pluto square our love stellium and someone insisted this will be a toxic rs but I don’t experience that.Hi! I have the love stellium with an impossible love. The stellium is squared by pluto and north node. I've read that it's toxic too but so far I haven't experienced that as she is very mature and kind and all i have for her is unconditional love. My love for her is intense despite our current separation but our meetings were fated, and i think the pluto squares denotes my tendency to be obsessive towards her. And of course the power dynamics because she is older. I dont know if she feels the same though. Hikaru29 quote:Originally posted by zionkay: Hi! I have the love stellium with an impossible love. The stellium is squared by pluto and north node. I've read that it's toxic too but so far I haven't experienced that as she is very mature and kind and all i have for her is unconditional love. My love for her is intense despite our current separation but our meetings were fated, and i think the pluto squares denotes my tendency to be obsessive towards her. And of course the power dynamics because she is older. I dont know if she feels the same though. Thanks for sharing your experience! I too experience the intense and obsessive nature. I used to think I was the only one obsessed with him but later I realised he feels the same too. There’s also this fear of losing the other so we tend to grip too tight at times, especially him.ARB1997 quote:Originally posted by Hikaru29: Feelings should be seen through Synastry, not composite. IMO a composite afflicted by 2 or more outer planets shows a lot of challenges. How it will manifest depends on which planet is afflicting it. With Saturn there can be a lot of coldness and criticism, with Uranus a lot of fights over structure and freedom, with Neptune a lot of idealism then disappointments. Even with a love stellium, the relationship can eventually sour (especially if one or both are not mature to handle conflicts). Note that I’m not talking about 2 or 3 squares but afflictions to the entire stellium.I ever saw a friend’s composite with Sun-Venus-Mercury-Moon stellium but afflicted by 2 or 3 outer planets (can’t remember which ones but I know Saturn is involved). They were on/off, couldn’t achieve stability and she finds the guy unreliable. They also had intimacy issue...he seemed to be afraid of coming close to her even though he liked her a lot. But despite the challenges they kept coming back together. I don’t know if they’re still together though.I also had a Sun-Mercury-Mars stellium with Venus opposite Mercury/Mars with my ex, so kinda like a half love stellium there. They’re afflicted by Saturn and Neptune. I suffered so much pain in that relationship. He was very critical and controlling and treated me like a door mat. Also felt extremely disillusioned towards the end as he was sooo nice, romantic and gentlemanly when he was chasing me.Thanks Hikaru!So if I have a SUN-MERCURY-VENUS stellium with the man I am seeing, ie all 3 are conjunct each other, but then Uranus and Neptune are making squares to ALL 3 planets, that is considered afflicted right?Uranus Square -6s Sun Uranus Square -10s MercuryUranus Square -3s VenusNeptune Square -9s SunNeptune Square -13s Mercury Neptune Square -6s VenusSaturn is creating trines with all 3 planets (Large Orbs).. does that also mean it id "afflicting" it, or because it is Trine it is positive?Somna7H quote:Originally posted by LaceyLeigh: Yeah, that’s the love stellium! It’s not fool-proof of course and the tighter it is, the stronger the feelings are.I think Trine from Saturn ruined all the fun.Saturn always obstacles, delay and ultimately end with life lessons.Hikaru29 quote:Originally posted by ARB1997: Thanks Hikaru!So if I have a SUN-MERCURY-VENUS stellium with the man I am seeing, ie all 3 are conjunct each other, but then Uranus and Neptune are making squares to ALL 3 planets, that is considered afflicted right?Uranus Square -6s Sun Uranus Square -10s MercuryUranus Square -3s VenusNeptune Square -9s SunNeptune Square -13s Mercury Neptune Square -6s VenusSaturn is creating trines with all 3 planets (Large Orbs).. does that also mean it id "afflicting" it, or because it is Trine it is positive?Yes, squares are affliction but your Neptune squares are at very wide orbs (it’s out of orb with Mercury, in fact) so may not be obvious. Your Uranus squares though will be more obvious. Uranus causes suddenness which will permeate throughout the relationship, that is why the bad rep of being unstable. You will suddenly be very close and suddenly need a lot of space... Uranus strong in a chart indicates a need to let go of expectations. Did you guys meet unexpectedly when both were not looking for a relationship and then sparks suddenly fly?Saturn trine isn’t an affliction. It’s supportive and provides resilience.ARB1997 quote:Originally posted by Hikaru29: Yes, squares are affliction but your Neptune squares are at very wide orbs (it’s out of orb with Mercury, in fact) so may not be obvious. Your Uranus squares though will be more obvious. Uranus causes suddenness which will permeate throughout the relationship, that is why the bad rep of being unstable. You will suddenly be very close and suddenly need a lot of space... Uranus strong in a chart indicates a need to let go of expectations. Did you guys meet unexpectedly when both were not looking for a relationship and then sparks suddenly fly?Saturn trine isn’t an affliction. It’s supportive and provides resilience.Thank you Hikaru! Yes it feels like a very Uranian relationship, we aren’t in an official relationship but when we met it felt like it could have been a long term relationship, I think both of us felt that way. To be honest there is a lot of Uranus in out synastry as well. Unfortunately it just ended up being something without a title. It feels very on and off, and I feel like I am more invested in him whereas he needs more freedom. I am afraid to lose him and I think I am in love with him. I have no idea if he feels the same way, I think he does but we just show our love in diff ways. It’s just surprising to me because I thought composite meant both people feel the energy so I wonder why I am wanting more of a stable relationship and he is embodying Uranus and wanting more freedom. vansiofake-out-makeout “love stellium” is not some holy grail - that’s like saying 7-11 is the best place to stop for snacks (convenience store logic of planets that are always set-up around the corner of each other)Venus and Sun are enemies ffsSun also dgaf about Mercury lol and Mercury’s all like *thinking* here I am with my “friends” dummmmmmbThe only legit “love” aspect in composite (if we’re going to qualify that by astrology) is Sun-Moon. Obviously no set of laws in nature are required [to love], but can with some dignity mention this one for sake of presumptionsSorry to anyone who wishes for ‘a given’ in astrology Travelman quote:Originally posted by vansio:fake-out-makeout “love stellium” is not some holy grail - that’s like saying 7-11 is the best place to stop for snacks Nobody said it was. quote:Originally posted by vansio:The only legit “love aspect” in composite (if we’re going to qualify that) is Sun-Moon. [/B]No.vansioI really don’t care if anyone wants to disagree with my opinion, you seem to make a point to do just that. I’m replying to the topic of the “love stellium”, not your relationship. My Saturn is in the 9th House. (Aquarius) I personally have had to spend time really analyzing wtf Running-Around-Screaming was promoting and others were repeating. Because once upon a time, by coming-across the ‘concept’ online, I was convinced this is “a thing”, before actually studying it and coming to my own conclusion that it doesn’t add up to the relationships I was seeing IRL. Seeing people just-as vulnerable to a viral lazy idea, also makes me annoyed. C’est la vie Sun-Venus might mean to the naked eye that the couple has proudly identified their unit as harmonious, attractive and pleasure-seeking (doesn’t mean it’s deep), but as we all know with Sun in the Venus-signs, Libras were born imbalanced and Taurus stubborn-possessive. Venus in Leo wants to be worshiped aka self-centered. Do you recognize the default of them influencing each other? Like I said, my disregard is a matter of relational and traditional dignity, and to what extent is it functional, well besides Mercury who perceives the scene however he likes, to figure out and define it, aka the one who’s talking.The trine and sextile is likely easier for each planet, less pressure, but then what is even the point of this LABEL if the “stellium” gets stretched and flipped about, usually so that people can feel a part the hype. In your case, it’s probably better that Venus is opposite to Sun, seven signs away [from her enemy], where she’s strong and belongs. DynamicWhatever~ cookbook astrology is gross, doesn’t surprise me how it gets carried away considering the particular planets involved. Btw, I’ve had “it”. Sun-Venus-Mercury conjunction, sextile Jupiter/Neptune/Uranus, widely trine Pluto, and sign-based sextile to Saturn. :P if this concept alone was true [love] I’d be the first to standbyHikaru29 quote:Originally posted by ARB1997: Thank you Hikaru! Yes it feels like a very Uranian relationship, we aren’t in an official relationship but when we met it felt like it could have been a long term relationship, I think both of us felt that way. To be honest there is a lot of Uranus in out synastry as well. Unfortunately it just ended up being something without a title. It feels very on and off, and I feel like I am more invested in him whereas he needs more freedom. I am afraid to lose him and I think I am in love with him. I have no idea if he feels the same way, I think he does but we just show our love in diff ways. It’s just surprising to me because I thought composite meant both people feel the energy so I wonder why I am wanting more of a stable relationship and he is embodying Uranus and wanting more freedom. Study your synastry for individual feelings. Look at his natal.. Is he strong in Uranus energy or even Sag/Gemini?
I have one with my gf where we have Merucry (19°09'35), Venus (16°53'55) and Mars (20°43'41) in Aquarius in House 10 which is opposite Leo sun (19°20'11) in House 4 and Sextile Sag Saturn (21°53'12) in House 8 and Aries rising (24°32'16), as well as trine Libra DSC (24°32'16), Juno, and Vertex (both 20 degrees), trine Gem Ceres (17 degrees) and Chiron (25 degrees).
Moon trine pluto (1 orb) and sextile neptune (2 orb) is nice too.
"What is a love stellium in astrology? This is when on a composite chart (the mid-point planet relationship chart) there are planets clustered together in one to three different areas or houses. When planets (3 or more) are conjunct (sitting next to each other) it creates a loving, harmonious relationship."
Sorry to hear about this user
quote:Originally posted by LaceyLeigh:I think it’s Sun/Mercury/Venus conjunct that makes it a love stellium. There’s a ton of threads on it. It’s supposed to indicate true love but it’s not fool-proof. It was first coined by a user named RunAroundScreaming who I believe passed away a few years ago. RIP
What ?I don't think that way.Checked my composite and found Sun, Mercury, Venus including Vertex in 7th House. Here is the chart.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/009368.html
------------------My Chat : http://imgur.com/hCRDawD
quote:Originally posted by Somna7H: What ?I don't think that way.Checked my composite and found Sun, Mercury, Venus including Vertex in 7th House. Here is the chart. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/009368.html
Yeah, that’s the love stellium! It’s not fool-proof of course and the tighter it is, the stronger the feelings are.
quote:Originally posted by Travelman:So it is just a "normal" stellium?Sorry to hear about this user
I didn’t see that it was all opposite Venus, I just saw Sun/Mercury/Mars conjunct! You have a love stellium if it’s all opposite Venus!
quote:Originally posted by Travelman:Has anyone heard about this?I have one with my gf where we have Merucry (19°09'35), Venus (16°53'55) and Mars (20°43'41) in Aquarius in House 10 which is opposite Leo sun (19°20'11) in House 4 and Sextile Sag Sun (21°53'12) in House 8 and Aries rising (24°32'16), as well as trine Libra DSC (24°32'16), Juno, and Vertex (both 20 degrees), trine Gem Ceres (17 degrees) and Chiron (25 degrees).Moon trine pluto (1 orb) and sextile neptune (2 orb) is nice too."What is a love stellium in astrology? This is when on a composite chart (the mid-point planet relationship chart) there are planets clustered together in one to three different areas or houses. When planets (3 or more) are conjunct (sitting next to each other) it creates a loving, harmonious relationship."
I have one with my gf where we have Merucry (19°09'35), Venus (16°53'55) and Mars (20°43'41) in Aquarius in House 10 which is opposite Leo sun (19°20'11) in House 4 and Sextile Sag Sun (21°53'12) in House 8 and Aries rising (24°32'16), as well as trine Libra DSC (24°32'16), Juno, and Vertex (both 20 degrees), trine Gem Ceres (17 degrees) and Chiron (25 degrees).
You definitely have a love stellium there as opposition is counted as well. Can you share your experience with having those Pluto squares? I’m curious as my guy and I also have Pluto square our love stellium and someone insisted this will be a toxic rs but I don’t experience that.
quote:Originally posted by LaceyLeigh: Yeah, that’s the love stellium! It’s not fool-proof of course and the tighter it is, the stronger the feelings are.
Thank you very much for confirming.I still have feeling for her but don't know about her. First 6 or 7 months were very strong. May be my current time is not good for me.
quote:Originally posted by Hikaru29:Like what LaceyLeigh said, the love stellium refers to Sun-Mercury-Venus conjunct or opposition. This is generally a very good indicator (not solely) of a potentially close and loving relationship. However, it isn’t almighty. If it’s afflicted by 2 or more outer planets (especially Saturn/Uranus/Neptune) it can greatly alter the quality of this stellium. I didn’t include Pluto because according to RAS and my own experience, Pluto makes the love more intense and it can be good if both learn to manage the negative sides of Pluto which is control and jealousy.
Could you please explain what how a love stellium that is afflicted by two or more outer planets would manifest like? Would they not love each other as much?
quote:Originally posted by ARB1997: [QUOTE]@ Hikaru29Could you please explain what how a love stellium that is afflicted by two or more outer planets would manifest like? Would they not love each other as much?
Feelings should be seen through Synastry, not composite. IMO a composite afflicted by 2 or more outer planets shows a lot of challenges. How it will manifest depends on which planet is afflicting it. With Saturn there can be a lot of coldness and criticism, with Uranus a lot of fights over structure and freedom, with Neptune a lot of idealism then disappointments. Even with a love stellium, the relationship can eventually sour (especially if one or both are not mature to handle conflicts). Note that I’m not talking about 2 or 3 squares but afflictions to the entire stellium.
I ever saw a friend’s composite with Sun-Venus-Mercury-Moon stellium but afflicted by 2 or 3 outer planets (can’t remember which ones but I know Saturn is involved). They were on/off, couldn’t achieve stability and she finds the guy unreliable. They also had intimacy issue...he seemed to be afraid of coming close to her even though he liked her a lot. But despite the challenges they kept coming back together. I don’t know if they’re still together though.
I also had a Sun-Mercury-Mars stellium with Venus opposite Mercury/Mars with my ex, so kinda like a half love stellium there. They’re afflicted by Saturn and Neptune. I suffered so much pain in that relationship. He was very critical and controlling and treated me like a door mat. Also felt extremely disillusioned towards the end as he was sooo nice, romantic and gentlemanly when he was chasing me.
quote:Originally posted by MMarie:You have both Leo and Sag sun written in your post but if it’s the Leo sun opposite the stellium I believe it would be just as good as a “love stellium”. I’ve read opposites in composite act similar to conjunctions.
Sorry, that should say Sag Saturn. I edited.
Yes, it is a Leo Sun.
quote:Originally posted by Hikaru29: You definitely have a love stellium there as opposition is counted as well. Can you share your experience with having those Pluto squares? I’m curious as my guy and I also have Pluto square our love stellium and someone insisted this will be a toxic rs but I don’t experience that.
Pluto does not do much in our composite. It is at 9 degrees so it is too wide of an orb for the aqua planets in Venus, Mercury, and Mars (16, 19 and 20 degrees, respectively) but it does trine moon by exactly 1 degree which I guess adds to those intense feelings and sextile Neptune by 2 degrees and an exact inconjunct Jupiter.
Hi! I have the love stellium with an impossible love. The stellium is squared by pluto and north node.
I've read that it's toxic too but so far I haven't experienced that as she is very mature and kind and all i have for her is unconditional love. My love for her is intense despite our current separation but our meetings were fated, and i think the pluto squares denotes my tendency to be obsessive towards her. And of course the power dynamics because she is older.
I dont know if she feels the same though.
quote:Originally posted by zionkay: Hi! I have the love stellium with an impossible love. The stellium is squared by pluto and north node. I've read that it's toxic too but so far I haven't experienced that as she is very mature and kind and all i have for her is unconditional love. My love for her is intense despite our current separation but our meetings were fated, and i think the pluto squares denotes my tendency to be obsessive towards her. And of course the power dynamics because she is older. I dont know if she feels the same though.
Thanks for sharing your experience! I too experience the intense and obsessive nature. I used to think I was the only one obsessed with him but later I realised he feels the same too. There’s also this fear of losing the other so we tend to grip too tight at times, especially him.
quote:Originally posted by Hikaru29: Feelings should be seen through Synastry, not composite. IMO a composite afflicted by 2 or more outer planets shows a lot of challenges. How it will manifest depends on which planet is afflicting it. With Saturn there can be a lot of coldness and criticism, with Uranus a lot of fights over structure and freedom, with Neptune a lot of idealism then disappointments. Even with a love stellium, the relationship can eventually sour (especially if one or both are not mature to handle conflicts). Note that I’m not talking about 2 or 3 squares but afflictions to the entire stellium.I ever saw a friend’s composite with Sun-Venus-Mercury-Moon stellium but afflicted by 2 or 3 outer planets (can’t remember which ones but I know Saturn is involved). They were on/off, couldn’t achieve stability and she finds the guy unreliable. They also had intimacy issue...he seemed to be afraid of coming close to her even though he liked her a lot. But despite the challenges they kept coming back together. I don’t know if they’re still together though.I also had a Sun-Mercury-Mars stellium with Venus opposite Mercury/Mars with my ex, so kinda like a half love stellium there. They’re afflicted by Saturn and Neptune. I suffered so much pain in that relationship. He was very critical and controlling and treated me like a door mat. Also felt extremely disillusioned towards the end as he was sooo nice, romantic and gentlemanly when he was chasing me.
Thanks Hikaru!
So if I have a SUN-MERCURY-VENUS stellium with the man I am seeing, ie all 3 are conjunct each other, but then Uranus and Neptune are making squares to ALL 3 planets, that is considered afflicted right?
Uranus Square -6s Sun Uranus Square -10s MercuryUranus Square -3s Venus
Neptune Square -9s SunNeptune Square -13s Mercury Neptune Square -6s Venus
Saturn is creating trines with all 3 planets (Large Orbs).. does that also mean it id "afflicting" it, or because it is Trine it is positive?
I think Trine from Saturn ruined all the fun.Saturn always obstacles, delay and ultimately end with life lessons.
quote:Originally posted by ARB1997: Thanks Hikaru!So if I have a SUN-MERCURY-VENUS stellium with the man I am seeing, ie all 3 are conjunct each other, but then Uranus and Neptune are making squares to ALL 3 planets, that is considered afflicted right?Uranus Square -6s Sun Uranus Square -10s MercuryUranus Square -3s VenusNeptune Square -9s SunNeptune Square -13s Mercury Neptune Square -6s VenusSaturn is creating trines with all 3 planets (Large Orbs).. does that also mean it id "afflicting" it, or because it is Trine it is positive?
Yes, squares are affliction but your Neptune squares are at very wide orbs (it’s out of orb with Mercury, in fact) so may not be obvious. Your Uranus squares though will be more obvious. Uranus causes suddenness which will permeate throughout the relationship, that is why the bad rep of being unstable. You will suddenly be very close and suddenly need a lot of space... Uranus strong in a chart indicates a need to let go of expectations. Did you guys meet unexpectedly when both were not looking for a relationship and then sparks suddenly fly?
Saturn trine isn’t an affliction. It’s supportive and provides resilience.
quote:Originally posted by Hikaru29: Yes, squares are affliction but your Neptune squares are at very wide orbs (it’s out of orb with Mercury, in fact) so may not be obvious. Your Uranus squares though will be more obvious. Uranus causes suddenness which will permeate throughout the relationship, that is why the bad rep of being unstable. You will suddenly be very close and suddenly need a lot of space... Uranus strong in a chart indicates a need to let go of expectations. Did you guys meet unexpectedly when both were not looking for a relationship and then sparks suddenly fly?Saturn trine isn’t an affliction. It’s supportive and provides resilience.
Thank you Hikaru!
Yes it feels like a very Uranian relationship, we aren’t in an official relationship but when we met it felt like it could have been a long term relationship, I think both of us felt that way. To be honest there is a lot of Uranus in out synastry as well. Unfortunately it just ended up being something without a title. It feels very on and off, and I feel like I am more invested in him whereas he needs more freedom. I am afraid to lose him and I think I am in love with him. I have no idea if he feels the same way, I think he does but we just show our love in diff ways. It’s just surprising to me because I thought composite meant both people feel the energy so I wonder why I am wanting more of a stable relationship and he is embodying Uranus and wanting more freedom.
Venus and Sun are enemies ffsSun also dgaf about Mercury
lol and Mercury’s all like *thinking* here I am with my “friends” dummmmmmb
The only legit “love” aspect in composite (if we’re going to qualify that by astrology) is Sun-Moon. Obviously no set of laws in nature are required [to love], but can with some dignity mention this one for sake of presumptions
Sorry to anyone who wishes for ‘a given’ in astrology
quote:Originally posted by vansio:fake-out-makeout “love stellium” is not some holy grail - that’s like saying 7-11 is the best place to stop for snacks
Nobody said it was.
quote:Originally posted by vansio:The only legit “love aspect” in composite (if we’re going to qualify that) is Sun-Moon. [/B]
The only legit “love aspect” in composite (if we’re going to qualify that) is Sun-Moon.
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My Saturn is in the 9th House. (Aquarius)
I personally have had to spend time really analyzing wtf Running-Around-Screaming was promoting and others were repeating. Because once upon a time, by coming-across the ‘concept’ online, I was convinced this is “a thing”, before actually studying it and coming to my own conclusion that it doesn’t add up to the relationships I was seeing IRL. Seeing people just-as vulnerable to a viral lazy idea, also makes me annoyed. C’est la vie
Sun-Venus might mean to the naked eye that the couple has proudly identified their unit as harmonious, attractive and pleasure-seeking (doesn’t mean it’s deep), but as we all know with Sun in the Venus-signs, Libras were born imbalanced and Taurus stubborn-possessive. Venus in Leo wants to be worshiped aka self-centered. Do you recognize the default of them influencing each other?
Like I said, my disregard is a matter of relational and traditional dignity, and to what extent is it functional, well besides Mercury who perceives the scene however he likes, to figure out and define it, aka the one who’s talking.
The trine and sextile is likely easier for each planet, less pressure, but then what is even the point of this LABEL if the “stellium” gets stretched and flipped about, usually so that people can feel a part the hype. In your case, it’s probably better that Venus is opposite to Sun, seven signs away [from her enemy], where she’s strong and belongs. Dynamic
Whatever~ cookbook astrology is gross, doesn’t surprise me how it gets carried away considering the particular planets involved.
Btw, I’ve had “it”. Sun-Venus-Mercury conjunction, sextile Jupiter/Neptune/Uranus, widely trine Pluto, and sign-based sextile to Saturn. :P if this concept alone was true [love] I’d be the first to standby
quote:Originally posted by ARB1997: Thank you Hikaru! Yes it feels like a very Uranian relationship, we aren’t in an official relationship but when we met it felt like it could have been a long term relationship, I think both of us felt that way. To be honest there is a lot of Uranus in out synastry as well. Unfortunately it just ended up being something without a title. It feels very on and off, and I feel like I am more invested in him whereas he needs more freedom. I am afraid to lose him and I think I am in love with him. I have no idea if he feels the same way, I think he does but we just show our love in diff ways. It’s just surprising to me because I thought composite meant both people feel the energy so I wonder why I am wanting more of a stable relationship and he is embodying Uranus and wanting more freedom.
Study your synastry for individual feelings. Look at his natal.. Is he strong in Uranus energy or even Sag/Gemini?
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