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T O P I C R E V I E WvirgoscorpioChallenging transits to composite or natal charts that put stress on a relationship? So I know what to look out for. ThanksGalacticCoreExplosion One of the roughest periods/cycles of my life was when T. Saturn was going through the 1st, and during this period T. Pluto was squaring N. Saturn which rules Sun and Merc and co-rules Venus and Descendant. Had a bit of a stalker during this time, among other things. Not sexual, as he is a straight male and so am I. But Plutonian/obsessional, and a underground seething rage and dislike of me who powerfully stirred up his rather strong and unconscious shadow. (In his chart, Sun Neptune Saturn conjunction with Sun closely cusped Scorpio, ruling Planet in Scorpio, Pluto closest planet to Ascendant, etc. and a whole lot of intense squares, oppositions, and conjunctions between Pluto, Saturn, Mars and personal/sensitive points (including Nodes) between our charts. Thanks to intuition, found out exactly who he was. As he is well known (I guess rich people with too much time and money on their hands get easily bored at times?), when his identity was addressed, he finally disappeared. virgoscorpioWow sounds scaryGalacticCoreExplosion It wasn´t really scary, it was just annoying and frustrating to have someone that in one´s psychic space without permission or mutual interest. It was very pressing. It started with unasked for p.m.´s and giving me life and spiritual advice, which I initially thanked him for in an impersonal and brief manner. But when I started disagreeing with him or the sources he liked (like Alice Bailey, certain Gurus, etc), publicly, it just got weirder and weirder, more and more harassing and more pressing. He contacted someone that I had spent time with in real life and started trying to convince her I was a narcissist. He´s not a negative person in any extreme sense. He has many good and positive traits. He just doesn´t see himself too objectively. Interestingly, we both share difficult experiences/dynamics with father figures. What´s interesting is that he tried to convince others that I am narcissistic, and yet he clearly has those traits within (especially when I found out his identity and did a little digging into things like how during an interview during a dinner, he pulled out a Guru based spiritual book and had the female interviewer read the disciple part and him read the ¨master¨ part to her, or that most his many relationships have been with women half to a third his age, that he followed some obviously and overtly fake arse Gurus [like Sri Chinmoy], etc). Yet, he´s a Hollywood type with Leo South Node, and the last thing he should have went into was acting (not really aligned with the Aqua North Node dharmic path).He was projecting his own disowned/repressed/suppressed shadow onto me (happens a lot to those of us with Pisces and/or Jupiter and/or Neptune strong in our charts). That combined with some difficult past life interactions that he was not consciously aware of, made it easy for him to both intensely dislike and yet be obsessed with me (he followed me onto another forum I was already on, after I had made the mistake of mentioning it on the forum we met, and after I left that one). And, to be honest, much of our interaction happened when T. Saturn was in my 1st, and I was certainly in a slower vibratory phase and was more resonant with narcissistic type energies at the time. So he was not completely 100 percent off. But I was in my mid 20´s, going through a lot, having been through a lot, trying to find greater balance, and here is this guy more than twice my age following me around and making things more difficult while in his mind he was ¨helping¨ me. Tooĺ´s song 46&2 about ¨my shadow¨ comes strongly to mind. He was like the material manifestation of that. Yes, it was a very strange dynamic. RandallBump!ShipwreckSirenI would say the worst of the worst is going to be Uranus touching personal planets and falling into certain houses. It's not uncommon for divorces to occur during these times. Uranus is the planet that shakes things up and forces you to let go of old stuff and embrace the new. It doesn't necessarily mean a divorce or breakup will happen, but if there is any weakness at all then Uranus is going to rattle things loose. Librapurr quote:Originally posted by ShipwreckSiren:I would say the worst of the worst is going to be Uranus touching personal planets and falling into certain houses. It's not uncommon for divorces to occur during these times. Uranus is the planet that shakes things up and forces you to let go of old stuff and embrace the new. When I had Uranus transit, it wasn't that bad. I think It activated my Uranus Sun/Moon Natal. I got a little crazy, so emotional like I wasn't for years. It's like Uranian part of my personality really popped up. I did some stupid stuff during that time. But It was kind of fun, and revealing, and emotional cleansing. So I think it depends on your natal chart or synastry with close one. If you already have much Uranus influence , it wouldn't be so scary because you used to this kind of energy. Hikaru29 quote:Originally posted by ShipwreckSiren:I would say the worst of the worst is going to be Uranus touching personal planets and falling into certain houses. It's not uncommon for divorces to occur during these times. Uranus is the planet that shakes things up and forces you to let go of old stuff and embrace the new. It doesn't necessarily mean a divorce or breakup will happen, but if there is any weakness at all then Uranus is going to rattle things loose. I tend to agree with this as I've seen it happen to some couples. Uranus transit composite/natal 7th may not cause too much turbulence but if it's also making harsh aspects to personal planets (esp. Venus or chart ruler/DSC ruler) it can rattle an unstable relationship.But of course if your r/s is strong and stable, there's nothing to worry about. It might just cause some significant changes.Aries23DegreesTransiting Saturn on Venus/Moon or going through the 4th/7th house. The native may feel less "loved" and demonstrate aloofness or distance that is interpreted as "the love is gone".Transiting Uranus on Moon/Venus or going through the 4th/7th house.Circumstances beyond either of your control tend to crop up and establish physical distance that test the bond.They work night shift. You work a day shift. They get work out of town or you do,they get arrested and spend time in jail or you do etc.
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Had a bit of a stalker during this time, among other things. Not sexual, as he is a straight male and so am I. But Plutonian/obsessional, and a underground seething rage and dislike of me who powerfully stirred up his rather strong and unconscious shadow. (In his chart, Sun Neptune Saturn conjunction with Sun closely cusped Scorpio, ruling Planet in Scorpio, Pluto closest planet to Ascendant, etc. and a whole lot of intense squares, oppositions, and conjunctions between Pluto, Saturn, Mars and personal/sensitive points (including Nodes) between our charts.
Thanks to intuition, found out exactly who he was. As he is well known (I guess rich people with too much time and money on their hands get easily bored at times?), when his identity was addressed, he finally disappeared.
He´s not a negative person in any extreme sense. He has many good and positive traits. He just doesn´t see himself too objectively. Interestingly, we both share difficult experiences/dynamics with father figures.
What´s interesting is that he tried to convince others that I am narcissistic, and yet he clearly has those traits within (especially when I found out his identity and did a little digging into things like how during an interview during a dinner, he pulled out a Guru based spiritual book and had the female interviewer read the disciple part and him read the ¨master¨ part to her, or that most his many relationships have been with women half to a third his age, that he followed some obviously and overtly fake arse Gurus [like Sri Chinmoy], etc). Yet, he´s a Hollywood type with Leo South Node, and the last thing he should have went into was acting (not really aligned with the Aqua North Node dharmic path).
He was projecting his own disowned/repressed/suppressed shadow onto me (happens a lot to those of us with Pisces and/or Jupiter and/or Neptune strong in our charts).
That combined with some difficult past life interactions that he was not consciously aware of, made it easy for him to both intensely dislike and yet be obsessed with me (he followed me onto another forum I was already on, after I had made the mistake of mentioning it on the forum we met, and after I left that one).
And, to be honest, much of our interaction happened when T. Saturn was in my 1st, and I was certainly in a slower vibratory phase and was more resonant with narcissistic type energies at the time. So he was not completely 100 percent off. But I was in my mid 20´s, going through a lot, having been through a lot, trying to find greater balance, and here is this guy more than twice my age following me around and making things more difficult while in his mind he was ¨helping¨ me. Tooĺ´s song 46&2 about ¨my shadow¨ comes strongly to mind. He was like the material manifestation of that. Yes, it was a very strange dynamic.
quote:Originally posted by ShipwreckSiren:I would say the worst of the worst is going to be Uranus touching personal planets and falling into certain houses. It's not uncommon for divorces to occur during these times. Uranus is the planet that shakes things up and forces you to let go of old stuff and embrace the new.
So I think it depends on your natal chart or synastry with close one. If you already have much Uranus influence , it wouldn't be so scary because you used to this kind of energy.
quote:Originally posted by ShipwreckSiren:I would say the worst of the worst is going to be Uranus touching personal planets and falling into certain houses. It's not uncommon for divorces to occur during these times. Uranus is the planet that shakes things up and forces you to let go of old stuff and embrace the new. It doesn't necessarily mean a divorce or breakup will happen, but if there is any weakness at all then Uranus is going to rattle things loose.
I tend to agree with this as I've seen it happen to some couples. Uranus transit composite/natal 7th may not cause too much turbulence but if it's also making harsh aspects to personal planets (esp. Venus or chart ruler/DSC ruler) it can rattle an unstable relationship.
But of course if your r/s is strong and stable, there's nothing to worry about. It might just cause some significant changes.
Transiting Uranus on Moon/Venus or going through the 4th/7th house.Circumstances beyond either of your control tend to crop up and establish physical distance that test the bond.
They work night shift. You work a day shift. They get work out of town or you do,they get arrested and spend time in jail or you do etc.
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