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T O P I C R E V I E WElise3090Hello all!i was thinking in people that can "influence" an environment "vibe" or the behavior of other people just from how she acts herself...but,in a subliminal mode,It's not on purposejust look like that,all things that the person do Has great consequences Like a butterfly effectthis happen with me.But I want to know if it happens to you too, and what aspects you have that can cause this "I am manipulator unintentionally" effectIt is distressingI do not know if it's normal,I'm finding this weird because it's my first life in the "practical,material world", since I've got a south node in piscesAs people are a bit extreme with me, a look and a smile of mine can make someone want to be my friend and "stick" to me for next 20 years, the against,can make someone feel very hatred of meI can give an example of a chaos that I created without wanting, but I'm ashamed nowElise3090If someone does not understand what I write I can explain better, even my English is badwell,the aspects that can create this horrible thing in me can be i have pluto in my asc,but it is in 12° house,retrograde saturnuranus in 3 house and you?Electro DGXIt really depends on the type of energy they're giving off. Powerful Ascendant contacts would be a primary indicator to look for, along with aspects that stand out in the chart. For example, I could easily cause a lot of controversy just by acting out aggressively towards someone on the board if I chose to; Mars on the ASC in Scorpio is enough for me to be able to do just that. Planets like Mars and Pluto can be prone to spilling out negative and/or aggressive energy that can stir up situations and cause problems. Uranus can too, but it's not as negative and is more chaotic and unstable. As for using this energy to control people subconsciously, the other person would have to be very susceptible to it, like strong in Pisces or Neptune so they would absorb the energy and being acting that way themselves. ------------------Scorpio AscendantAquarius Sun in 4thGemini Moon in 8thCheck out my blog ya'll: www.electrodgxtalks.wordpress.comElise3090a person with these negative aspects in ascendant like aries or scorpio, or mars and pluto, If they commit a negative actionThey are more judged by other people than someone with venus in the first house who did the same bad deed? looks terribleElise3090Seriously, like body language or a stare, or a small gesture can really influence someone without the person noticingEven the voice tone ... o_oI learned the worst way, lolElectro DGX quote:Originally posted by Elise3090:a person with these negative aspects in ascendant like aries or scorpio, or mars and pluto, If they commit a negative actionThey are more judged by other people than someone with venus in the first house who did the same bad deed? looks terribleThat's not exactly what I'm saying. I said Mars on ASC in Scorpio because those are naturally aggressive and provacative placements that express that type of energy. It has to do with the idea that Scorpio Ascendants are very polarizing; that's the energy they give off. Venus on the Ascendant wouldn't be like this because Venus on the Ascendant gives off a more beautiful and harmonious energy, which isn't provacative. ------------------Scorpio AscendantAquarius Sun in 4thGemini Moon in 8thCheck out my blog ya'll: www.electrodgxtalks.wordpress.comElectro DGX quote:Originally posted by Elise3090:Seriously, like body language or a stare, or a small gesture can really influence someone without the person noticingEven the voice tone ... o_oI learned the worst way, lolWell, if they're not noticing then it doesn't really do anything. Otherwise yes, they can play influental factors. ------------------Scorpio AscendantAquarius Sun in 4thGemini Moon in 8thCheck out my blog ya'll: www.electrodgxtalks.wordpress.comElise3090The ascendant plays a big part in how much other people care about what you do or do not ... I understandElise3090Hey i was thinkingA person with a scorpio ascendant can choose whether to control their environment..in part!hmn,people with that "negative" energy,Need simply to choose whether they want to be well Dear ones and influencers or not, where as a person with a libra rising is already naturally lovedI see it as a kind of natural control that you have, where you choose to "win" or "lose" (what is be a winner or not is subjective,I do not think that have a promotion at work is a winning thing o_o ... but my north node is in virgo, I'm trying to apply everything to the "real world")I'm imagining a work environment nowThe person can act this way "provocative"Without noticingbecause...I believe in body language and i think that donald trump win with a help of BL too.seriously!trump has mars conjunct ascendant,he can choose between be hated or be a leader...him choose,the two options lol (+/-)a person with scorpio rising and mars in 1°can be very saved for himself and defensive, which creates distrust of the part of others>>>Your behavioral language is something like: mouth contracted, arms crossed, hands overlapped etc ...>>>This generate a negative emotional reaction from others,subconsciously,because these people think that scorpio rising person has something to hide or is protecting herselfthis person can choose between be a mysterious and strong leader or simply hated ...At the same time,that person has no choice ... this is annoying
this happen with me.But I want to know if it happens to you too, and what aspects you have that can cause this "I am manipulator unintentionally" effectIt is distressingI do not know if it's normal,I'm finding this weird because it's my first life in the "practical,material world", since I've got a south node in pisces
As people are a bit extreme with me, a look and a smile of mine can make someone want to be my friend and "stick" to me for next 20 years, the against,can make someone feel very hatred of me
I can give an example of a chaos that I created without wanting, but I'm ashamed now
well,the aspects that can create this horrible thing in me can be i have pluto in my asc,but it is in 12° house,retrograde saturnuranus in 3 house and you?
For example, I could easily cause a lot of controversy just by acting out aggressively towards someone on the board if I chose to; Mars on the ASC in Scorpio is enough for me to be able to do just that. Planets like Mars and Pluto can be prone to spilling out negative and/or aggressive energy that can stir up situations and cause problems. Uranus can too, but it's not as negative and is more chaotic and unstable.
As for using this energy to control people subconsciously, the other person would have to be very susceptible to it, like strong in Pisces or Neptune so they would absorb the energy and being acting that way themselves.
------------------Scorpio AscendantAquarius Sun in 4thGemini Moon in 8thCheck out my blog ya'll: www.electrodgxtalks.wordpress.com
Even the voice tone ... o_o
I learned the worst way, lol
quote:Originally posted by Elise3090:a person with these negative aspects in ascendant like aries or scorpio, or mars and pluto, If they commit a negative actionThey are more judged by other people than someone with venus in the first house who did the same bad deed? looks terrible
That's not exactly what I'm saying. I said Mars on ASC in Scorpio because those are naturally aggressive and provacative placements that express that type of energy. It has to do with the idea that Scorpio Ascendants are very polarizing; that's the energy they give off. Venus on the Ascendant wouldn't be like this because Venus on the Ascendant gives off a more beautiful and harmonious energy, which isn't provacative.
quote:Originally posted by Elise3090:Seriously, like body language or a stare, or a small gesture can really influence someone without the person noticingEven the voice tone ... o_oI learned the worst way, lol
Well, if they're not noticing then it doesn't really do anything. Otherwise yes, they can play influental factors.
hmn,people with that "negative" energy,Need simply to choose whether they want to be well Dear ones and influencers or not, where as a person with a libra rising is already naturally loved
I see it as a kind of natural control that you have, where you choose to "win" or "lose" (what is be a winner or not is subjective,I do not think that have a promotion at work is a winning thing o_o ... but my north node is in virgo, I'm trying to apply everything to the "real world")
I'm imagining a work environment now
The person can act this way "provocative"Without noticingbecause...
I believe in body language and i think that donald trump win with a help of BL too.seriously!trump has mars conjunct ascendant,he can choose between be hated or be a leader...him choose,the two options lol (+/-)
a person with scorpio rising and mars in 1°can be very saved for himself and defensive, which creates distrust of the part of others>>>Your behavioral language is something like: mouth contracted, arms crossed, hands overlapped etc ...>>>This generate a negative emotional reaction from others,subconsciously,because these people think that scorpio rising person has something to hide or is protecting herself
this person can choose between be a mysterious and strong leader or simply hated ...At the same time,that person has no choice ... this is annoying
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