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T O P I C R E V I E WNightingaleSo we know each planet or asteroid represents their own thing, but while planets have a broader field of influence (Venus), are they also more powerful (Venus versus Valentine)?Can synastry where there is little contact between sun/moon & venus/mars be lifted up to the same levels by great asteroid aspects - Valentine to Venus, Amor to Ascendant, Lust to Pluto, etc....In other words, more specific they are, but are asteroid aspects AS GOOD? What do people think?Ami AnneI think that IQ said that planets are stronger. For me, I have Pluto conj Dejanira and he told me that Pluto would keep Dajanira safe which is the case, Thank Goodness lol------------------Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/Ceridwen quote:Originally posted by Nightingale:Can synastry where there is little contact between sun/moon & venus/mars be lifted up to the same levels by great asteroid aspects - Valentine to Venus, Amor to Ascendant, Lust to Pluto, etc....?I donīt think so.I think aspects between Sun, Moon, angles, anglerulers and nodal axis always sets the frame and outline, and asteroids add the paint or texture. Nightingale quote:I donīt think so.I wonder why that should be. Surely if Valentine means sacrificial love it is just as potent at what it represents as Jupiter is at what Jupiter means?If Lust means lust then why shouldn't it be as potent trining Venus, as Mars would be, in their different respective ways?Nightingale quote:I think that IQ said that planets are stronger.Hopefully he'll chime in and tell us why quote:For me, I have Pluto conj Dejanira and he told me that Pluto would keep Dajanira safe which is the case, Thank Goodness lolYou know, I am not familiar with Dejanira. But Pluto can be a powerful force for good that's true.NightingaleReading the forum, and despite being asteroid fans, most people here just don't feel asteroids pack as much of a punch as the planets.I am curious as to why this is the case.Ami Anne quote:Originally posted by Nightingale:Reading the forum, and despite being asteroid fans, most people here just don't feel asteroids pack as much of a punch as the planets.I am curious as to why this is the case.IQ said the planet is stronger than an asteroid if there is a conj etc------------------Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/Ami AnneMaybe, energy wise, the planets are more powerful than the asteroids in a pure energetic sense. That would be my guess------------------Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/Nightingale quote:IQ said the planet is stronger than an asteroid if there is a conj etc quote:Maybe, energy wise, the planets are more powerful than the asteroids in a pure energetic sense.Sorry Ami Anne I don't mean to be a dunce, but could you explain these two comments, I don't understand them.Ami AnneYou are not a dunce. NO question is stupid, only the unasked ones! xxOK--all life is energy. The energetic pulls of the planets are what gives them the influence on us. A planet is stronger in energy than an asteroid, I am thinking.------------------Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ShyVirgo1979I'm gonna throw in my 2 cents here bc this thread has peaked my interest. Ami I agree with what u just said. My 14 yr old son just got home from school and I was asking him a few science questions seeing how he has always done extremely well in that subject and has loved it. He was telling me that the gravitational pull of an object in space has to do with its mass. He said the greater the mass, the greater pull. So yes that makes what u just said to b true. He said asteriods r basically just frozen dust particles and their mass is extremely small compared to the mass of a planet. Which I'm sure others know all this but I didn't pay attention in science class and don't know how gravitational pull out in space works lol logically speaking a planet would emit more energy then an asteriod, there the effects of a planet is greater. Linda Jones quote:Originally posted by AmiAnne:OK--all life is energy. The energetic pulls of the planets are what gives them the influence on us. A planet is stronger in energy than an asteroid, I am thinking.Yeah, and I think the total amount of energy being put out by any cosmic object depends on the size. Planets are larger in size than asteroids, so their energy influence is greater.But asteroids are so many that, once you find a particular theme, or a repeat pattern of asteroids in a chart (with tighter orbs than between planets), they tend to fill in the "holes" in information that planets leave.I think this is what Ceridwen meant when she said earlier on this thread that "asteroids add the paint or texture" while planets form the "framework" of a chart.Anyway, this is how I'm understanding the effect of asteroids in the few weeks I've been on this forum. For me, the understanding becomes clearer in light of my relationship with my SO as there are many things between us that planets alone cannot explain.I'm not sure whether I would've understood the effect of asteroids as clearly if I had only considered my natal chart. Perhaps this is because my sensitivity toward him is greater than toward myself.Hope this helps. VelvetPriestessI don't believe the actual balls in the sky called Venus or Jupiter or Pluto have much power over us. I believe the patterns of the sky reflect a greater reality, and that we reflect that greater reality at the same time in ourselves and our lives.------------------Classic SherlockiQPlanets have a Cosmological Significance, they represent different aspects of the Cosmic, Divine Man/Woman. Asteroids are from a fragmented Planet. Integrating them when they have important themes and when they conjunct Planets help integrate this missing planet. And integration of any component of this missing planet will help integration of all planets and make our understanding of our own Divine Nature even more profound. It is hypothesized that all planets are fragments from higher dimension of Earth which was destroyed in the original cataclysm that has been recorded in Ancient Texts as the "Fall of Man". This predates even Atlantis by several million years.Planets have been proven to rule parts of the body. Asteroids in total as the exploded Planet too may rule a body part, possibly the HippoCampus and Hypothalamus. Humanity does have an Amnesia about its Divine Origins, perhaps since this planet exploded?Asteroids stimulate Higher Levels of thinking as they are precede Jupiter. The Patterns and Subtle Themes of Asteroids will definitely boost our Jupiter and thus boost luck and growth. 99% of Astrologers are denying themselves and their clients the power of Fortuna in Charts through denial of Asteroids. Just one example.Thus, Asteroids may not be as important as planets but they are very much important in their own right, and neglecting them will prevent a person from 100% Mastery for the person is neglecting what was once a complete planet.------------------ Astrology Articles New Services and short readings ariesdragon quote:Originally posted by iQ:Planets have a Cosmological Significance, they represent different aspects of the Cosmic, Divine Man/Woman. Asteroids are from a fragmented Planet. Integrating them when they have important themes and when they conjunct Planets help integrate this missing planet. And integration of any component of this missing planet will help integration of all planets and make our understanding of our own Divine Nature even more profound. It is hypothesized that all planets are fragments from higher dimension of Earth which was destroyed in the original cataclysm that has been recorded in Ancient Texts as the "Fall of Man". This predates even Atlantis by several million years.Planets have been proven to rule parts of the body. Asteroids in total as the exploded Planet too may rule a body part, possibly the HippoCampus and Hypothalamus. Humanity does have an Amnesia about its Divine Origins, perhaps since this planet exploded?Asteroids stimulate Higher Levels of thinking as they are precede Jupiter. The Patterns and Subtle Themes of Asteroids will definitely boost our Jupiter and thus boost luck and growth. 99% of Astrologers are denying themselves and their clients the power of Fortuna in Charts through denial of Asteroids. Just one example.Thus, Asteroids may not be as important as planets but they are very much important in their own right, and neglecting them will prevent a person from 100% Mastery for the person is neglecting what was once a complete planet.Great explanation IQ! Thank you lilithpluto^^ NiceNightingaleThanks IQ, good to hear your answer on the subject. Really you need both planets and asteroids to understand astrology.Although I am still confused about whether something like an Isis-Osiris trine stands on its own in terms of potency, ie. does an Isis-Osiris trine between two people mean anything at all in and of itself.
Can synastry where there is little contact between sun/moon & venus/mars be lifted up to the same levels by great asteroid aspects - Valentine to Venus, Amor to Ascendant, Lust to Pluto, etc....
In other words, more specific they are, but are asteroid aspects AS GOOD?
What do people think?
------------------Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal
http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
quote:Originally posted by Nightingale:Can synastry where there is little contact between sun/moon & venus/mars be lifted up to the same levels by great asteroid aspects - Valentine to Venus, Amor to Ascendant, Lust to Pluto, etc....?
?
I donīt think so.
I think aspects between Sun, Moon, angles, anglerulers and nodal axis always sets the frame and outline, and asteroids add the paint or texture.
quote:I donīt think so.
I wonder why that should be. Surely if Valentine means sacrificial love it is just as potent at what it represents as Jupiter is at what Jupiter means?
If Lust means lust then why shouldn't it be as potent trining Venus, as Mars would be, in their different respective ways?
quote:I think that IQ said that planets are stronger.
Hopefully he'll chime in and tell us why
quote:For me, I have Pluto conj Dejanira and he told me that Pluto would keep Dajanira safe which is the case, Thank Goodness lol
You know, I am not familiar with Dejanira. But Pluto can be a powerful force for good that's true.
I am curious as to why this is the case.
quote:Originally posted by Nightingale:Reading the forum, and despite being asteroid fans, most people here just don't feel asteroids pack as much of a punch as the planets.I am curious as to why this is the case.
IQ said the planet is stronger than an asteroid if there is a conj etc
quote:IQ said the planet is stronger than an asteroid if there is a conj etc
quote:Maybe, energy wise, the planets are more powerful than the asteroids in a pure energetic sense.
Sorry Ami Anne I don't mean to be a dunce, but could you explain these two comments, I don't understand them.
OK--all life is energy. The energetic pulls of the planets are what gives them the influence on us. A planet is stronger in energy than an asteroid, I am thinking.
quote:Originally posted by AmiAnne:OK--all life is energy. The energetic pulls of the planets are what gives them the influence on us. A planet is stronger in energy than an asteroid, I am thinking.
Yeah, and I think the total amount of energy being put out by any cosmic object depends on the size. Planets are larger in size than asteroids, so their energy influence is greater.
But asteroids are so many that, once you find a particular theme, or a repeat pattern of asteroids in a chart (with tighter orbs than between planets), they tend to fill in the "holes" in information that planets leave.
I think this is what Ceridwen meant when she said earlier on this thread that "asteroids add the paint or texture" while planets form the "framework" of a chart.
Anyway, this is how I'm understanding the effect of asteroids in the few weeks I've been on this forum. For me, the understanding becomes clearer in light of my relationship with my SO as there are many things between us that planets alone cannot explain.
I'm not sure whether I would've understood the effect of asteroids as clearly if I had only considered my natal chart. Perhaps this is because my sensitivity toward him is greater than toward myself.
Hope this helps.
------------------Classic Sherlock
It is hypothesized that all planets are fragments from higher dimension of Earth which was destroyed in the original cataclysm that has been recorded in Ancient Texts as the "Fall of Man". This predates even Atlantis by several million years.
Planets have been proven to rule parts of the body. Asteroids in total as the exploded Planet too may rule a body part, possibly the HippoCampus and Hypothalamus. Humanity does have an Amnesia about its Divine Origins, perhaps since this planet exploded?
Asteroids stimulate Higher Levels of thinking as they are precede Jupiter. The Patterns and Subtle Themes of Asteroids will definitely boost our Jupiter and thus boost luck and growth. 99% of Astrologers are denying themselves and their clients the power of Fortuna in Charts through denial of Asteroids. Just one example.
Thus, Asteroids may not be as important as planets but they are very much important in their own right, and neglecting them will prevent a person from 100% Mastery for the person is neglecting what was once a complete planet.
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quote:Originally posted by iQ:Planets have a Cosmological Significance, they represent different aspects of the Cosmic, Divine Man/Woman. Asteroids are from a fragmented Planet. Integrating them when they have important themes and when they conjunct Planets help integrate this missing planet. And integration of any component of this missing planet will help integration of all planets and make our understanding of our own Divine Nature even more profound. It is hypothesized that all planets are fragments from higher dimension of Earth which was destroyed in the original cataclysm that has been recorded in Ancient Texts as the "Fall of Man". This predates even Atlantis by several million years.Planets have been proven to rule parts of the body. Asteroids in total as the exploded Planet too may rule a body part, possibly the HippoCampus and Hypothalamus. Humanity does have an Amnesia about its Divine Origins, perhaps since this planet exploded?Asteroids stimulate Higher Levels of thinking as they are precede Jupiter. The Patterns and Subtle Themes of Asteroids will definitely boost our Jupiter and thus boost luck and growth. 99% of Astrologers are denying themselves and their clients the power of Fortuna in Charts through denial of Asteroids. Just one example.Thus, Asteroids may not be as important as planets but they are very much important in their own right, and neglecting them will prevent a person from 100% Mastery for the person is neglecting what was once a complete planet.
Planets have been proven to rule parts of the body.
Asteroids in total as the exploded Planet too may rule a body part, possibly the HippoCampus and Hypothalamus. Humanity does have an Amnesia about its Divine Origins, perhaps since this planet exploded?
Great explanation IQ! Thank you
Although I am still confused about whether something like an Isis-Osiris trine stands on its own in terms of potency, ie. does an Isis-Osiris trine between two people mean anything at all in and of itself.
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