posted April 10, 2012 05:01 PM            

Can synastry where there is little contact between sun/moon & venus/mars be lifted up to the same levels by great asteroid aspects - Valentine to Venus, Amor to Ascendant, Lust to Pluto, etc....

In other words, more specific they are, but are asteroid aspects AS GOOD?

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posted April 10, 2012 06:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Nightingale:
Can synastry where there is little contact between sun/moon & venus/mars be lifted up to the same levels by great asteroid aspects - Valentine to Venus, Amor to Ascendant, Lust to Pluto, etc....

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I donīt think so.

I think aspects between Sun, Moon, angles, anglerulers and nodal axis always sets the frame and outline, and asteroids add the paint or texture.

posted April 11, 2012 09:24 AM            

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I donīt think so.

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I wonder why that should be. Surely if Valentine means sacrificial love it is just as potent at what it represents as Jupiter is at what Jupiter means?

posted April 11, 2012 09:27 AM            

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I think that IQ said that planets are stronger.

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Hopefully he'll chime in and tell us why

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For me, I have Pluto conj Dejanira and he told me that Pluto would keep Dajanira safe which is the case, Thank Goodness lol

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posted April 23, 2012 12:08 PM            

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Originally posted by Nightingale:
Reading the forum, and despite being asteroid fans, most people here just don't feel asteroids pack as much of a punch as the planets.

I am curious as to why this is the case.

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IQ said the planet is stronger than an asteroid if there is a conj etc

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posted April 23, 2012 12:10 PM            

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posted April 23, 2012 01:07 PM            

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IQ said the planet is stronger than an asteroid if there is a conj etc

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Maybe, energy wise, the planets are more powerful than the asteroids in a pure energetic sense.

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posted April 23, 2012 02:20 PM            

OK--all life is energy. The energetic pulls of the planets are what gives them the influence on us. A planet is stronger in energy than an asteroid, I am thinking.

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posted April 23, 2012 03:24 PM            

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OK--all life is energy. The energetic pulls of the planets are what gives them the influence on us. A planet is stronger in energy than an asteroid, I am thinking.

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Yeah, and I think the total amount of energy being put out by any cosmic object depends on the size. Planets are larger in size than asteroids, so their energy influence is greater.

But asteroids are so many that, once you find a particular theme, or a repeat pattern of asteroids in a chart (with tighter orbs than between planets), they tend to fill in the "holes" in information that planets leave.

I think this is what Ceridwen meant when she said earlier on this thread that "asteroids add the paint or texture" while planets form the "framework" of a chart.

Anyway, this is how I'm understanding the effect of asteroids in the few weeks I've been on this forum. For me, the understanding becomes clearer in light of my relationship with my SO as there are many things between us that planets alone cannot explain.

I'm not sure whether I would've understood the effect of asteroids as clearly if I had only considered my natal chart. Perhaps this is because my sensitivity toward him is greater than toward myself.

posted May 01, 2012 07:46 AM            

It is hypothesized that all planets are fragments from higher dimension of Earth which was destroyed in the original cataclysm that has been recorded in Ancient Texts as the "Fall of Man". This predates even Atlantis by several million years.

Planets have been proven to rule parts of the body. Asteroids in total as the exploded Planet too may rule a body part, possibly the HippoCampus and Hypothalamus. Humanity does have an Amnesia about its Divine Origins, perhaps since this planet exploded?

Asteroids stimulate Higher Levels of thinking as they are precede Jupiter. The Patterns and Subtle Themes of Asteroids will definitely boost our Jupiter and thus boost luck and growth. 99% of Astrologers are denying themselves and their clients the power of Fortuna in Charts through denial of Asteroids. Just one example.

Thus, Asteroids may not be as important as planets but they are very much important in their own right, and neglecting them will prevent a person from 100% Mastery for the person is neglecting what was once a complete planet.

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posted May 01, 2012 10:19 AM            

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Planets have a Cosmological Significance, they represent different aspects of the Cosmic, Divine Man/Woman. Asteroids are from a fragmented Planet. Integrating them when they have important themes and when they conjunct Planets help integrate this missing planet. And integration of any component of this missing planet will help integration of all planets and make our understanding of our own Divine Nature even more profound.

It is hypothesized that all planets are fragments from higher dimension of Earth which was destroyed in the original cataclysm that has been recorded in Ancient Texts as the "Fall of Man". This predates even Atlantis by several million years.

Planets have been proven to rule parts of the body.

Asteroids in total as the exploded Planet too may rule a body part, possibly the HippoCampus and Hypothalamus. Humanity does have an Amnesia about its Divine Origins, perhaps since this planet exploded?

Asteroids stimulate Higher Levels of thinking as they are precede Jupiter. The Patterns and Subtle Themes of Asteroids will definitely boost our Jupiter and thus boost luck and growth. 99% of Astrologers are denying themselves and their clients the power of Fortuna in
Charts through denial of Asteroids. Just one example.

Thus, Asteroids may not be as important as planets but they are very much important in their own right, and neglecting them will prevent a person from 100% Mastery for the person is neglecting what was once a complete planet.

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Great explanation IQ! Thank you