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T O P I C R E V I E WAelineI'm very interested in these heliocentric relationship charts, so i'm gonna be doing the research. As reference objects i use Earth, Venus, Mars, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto, Chiron, Karma, Union, Juno, DNA, Atlantis, Eros, Psyche, Amor, Valentine, Spirit, Angel. Orbfact = 35 %, to not deal with wide ones, so all the orbs are within 2 degrees at most. Major aspects only + quincunx. For now i have 11 celebrity couples, my grandparents which i consider were soulmates, and me and my 3 guys (one - my karmic Love, one - platonic soulfriend, one - whose presence make all my chakras especially the highest ones go jingle jingle, and his as well.. ) the couples considered are: Edgar Cayce - Gladys DavisEdgar Cayce - Gertrude CayceDiego Rivera - Frida KahloHumphrey Bogart - Lauren BacallAntonio Banderas - Mellanie GriffithPaul Mccartney - Linda MccartneyPaul Newman - Joanne WoodwardSri Aurobindo - Mira RichardRobert Browning - Elizabeth Barret BrowningPierre Currie - Marie CurrieLaurence Olivier - Vivien LeighIf you know another ones, please share, so that i can include them as well - the more, the better. AelineI will concentrate on the aspects that are most present in these synastries between the abovementioned objects. I remember that IQ once said that in helio squares and oppositions don't carry the same negative energy as in other systems, so i counted them too. As for now i have gone through Earth aspects. It turns out that:Earth - Chiron 9 aspects (3 squares, 2 oppositions, 3 trines and 1 conjunction)Earth - Saturn - 7 (3 squares, 2 sextiles, 1 trine, 1 conjunction)Earth - Pluto - 6 (2 squares, 2 quincunxes, 1 trine, 1 opp)Earth - Neptune - 6 (2 squares, 2 sextiles, 1 trine, 1 opp)Earth - Uranus - 4 (quincunx, square, sextile, trine)Earth - Earth - 3 (1 square, 1 sextile, 1 conjunction)Earth - Eros - 3 (2 sextiles, 1 trine)Earth - Mars - 3 (conjunct, square, trine)Earth - Spirit - 2 (sextile, opp)Earth - Atlantis - 2 (square, opp)Earth - DNA - 2 (square, conjunct)Earth - Valentine - 1 (trine)Earth - Psyche - 1 (trine)Earth - Juno - 1 (opp)Earth - Amor - 1 (sextile)Earth - Union - 1 (square)Ceridwen quote:Originally posted by Aeline:I will concentrate on the aspects that are most present in these synastries between the abovementioned objects. I remember that IQ once said that in helio squares and oppositions don't carry the same negative energy as in other systems, so i counted them too. As for now i have gone through Earth aspects. It turns out that:Earth - Chiron 9 aspects (3 squares, 2 oppositions, 3 trines and 1 conjunction)Earth - Saturn - 7 (3 squares, 2 sextiles, 1 trine, 1 conjunction)Earth - Pluto - 6 (2 squares, 2 quincunxes, 1 trine, 1 opp)Earth - Neptune - 6 (2 squares, 2 sextiles, 1 trine, 1 opp)Earth - Uranus - 4 (quincunx, square, sextile, trine)Earth - Earth - 3 (1 square, 1 sextile, 1 conjunction)Earth - Eros - 3 (2 sextiles, 1 trine)Earth - Mars - 3 (conjunct, square, trine)Earth - Spirit - 2 (sextile, opp)Earth - Atlantis - 2 (square, opp)Earth - DNA - 2 (square, conjunct)Earth - Valentine - 1 (trine)Earth - Psyche - 1 (trine)Earth - Juno - 1 (opp)Earth - Amor - 1 (sextile)Earth - Union - 1 (square)Did you do the synastry or composite?I find the EArth-Chiron link interesting, as in the helio composite of someone who had monopolized much of my mind-space for the last weeks, it turned out that the composite had EARTH trine Chiron exact.And I feel that I experienced a lot of healing. So it def. made sense to me.BTW to your research and your search-criteria.I am adding my parents to your set;composite EARTH aspects:EARTH trine NeptuneEARTH sextile PlutoThe have a neat little Grand trine of:EROS on 25 AriesKARMA on 25 LeoMars on 26 LeoChiron on 23 Sagittariusplus an interlinking T-square ofVALENTINE: 23 PIscesSaturn: 25 VirgoBoth point directly at Chiron near the GC.AelineAs for now, it's synastry, but i think that later on i might add composites too. Thanks ! AelineVenusVenus - Mars 7 (2 squares, 1 conjunct, 1 opp, 1 trine, 1 sextile)Venus - Uranus 5 (2 squares, 1 opp, 1 trine, 1 conjunct)Venus - Psyche 5 (2 squares, 2 conjuncts, 1 sextile)Venus - Saturn 5 (3 squares, 2 trines)Venus - Eros 4 (2 conjuncts, 1 square, 1 trine)Venus - Pluto 3 (square, sextile, opp)Venus - Neptune 3 (quincunx, square, conjunct)Venus - Venus 2 (square, opp)Venus - Angel 2 (square, quincunx)Venus - Karma 2 (sextile, opp)Venus - Chiron 2 (trine, quincunx)Venus - Valentine 3 (quincunx, square, conjunct)Venus - Spirit 2 (opp, trine)Venus - Juno 2 (2 trines)Venus - Union 1 (square)Venus - Amor 1 (trine)AelineCeri, i'll take these when i do composites, could you please, post their helio synastry aspects within these orbs? ail221I'll include mine helio synastry 2 orb max:Earth sq venusEarth sq PlutoEarth sq marsEarth qx Mars Earth QX NeptuneEarth sextile JunoEarth Opp spiritvenus qx Jupiter dwvenus qx Uranus Venus opp AngelVenus sq ValentineVenus sextile ErosMars Sq UranusMars sq Saturn Mars sq jupiter Mars opp ErosSaturn Sq KarmaChiron qx NeptuneChiron trine UnionChiron sq AngelPluto trine karma Uranus conjunct valentineNeptune conjunct Valentine psyche trine valentine Union sextile valentine Juno sq jupiter Juno qx psyche Valentine conjunct Juno Valentine qx psycheKarma sq UnionKarma sq Aura JovianYes, isn't that very high rate of Earth-Chiron connection interesting. Nine out of eleven. Wow. Nice find! I also note there is no Earth-Jupiter nor Earth-Venus among the celebrity pairs.CeridwenFor research I am only using a 2 degree orb.So my parents within this orb:Earth square EarthEarth sextile VenusEarth sextile SaturnVenus square EarthUranus sextile Earth exactVenus trine MErcury exactVEnus quinkunx ChironMars square Venus exactSpirit oposite VenusAmor-Valentine-Juno-Eros--------------------------Amor square Mars exactAmor trine UnionAmor square PsycheAmor square SpiritValentine square Neptunevalentine quinkunx PlutoValentine quinkunx PlutoValentine sextile AmorJuno trine Union exacteros trine JUnoEros conjunct ErosEros quinkunx ValentinePsyche conjunct AmorUnion opposit Eros exactOrange quote:Originally posted by Aeline:I will concentrate on the aspects that are most present in these synastries between the abovementioned objects. I remember that IQ once said that in helio squares and oppositions don't carry the same negative energy as in other systems, so i counted them too. As for now i have gone through Earth aspects. It turns out that:Earth - Chiron 9 aspects (3 squares, 2 oppositions, 3 trines and 1 conjunction)Earth - Saturn - 7 (3 squares, 2 sextiles, 1 trine, 1 conjunction)Earth - Pluto - 6 (2 squares, 2 quincunxes, 1 trine, 1 opp)Earth - Neptune - 6 (2 squares, 2 sextiles, 1 trine, 1 opp)Earth - Uranus - 4 (quincunx, square, sextile, trine)Earth - Earth - 3 (1 square, 1 sextile, 1 conjunction)Earth - Eros - 3 (2 sextiles, 1 trine)Earth - Mars - 3 (conjunct, square, trine)Earth - Spirit - 2 (sextile, opp)Earth - Atlantis - 2 (square, opp)Earth - DNA - 2 (square, conjunct)Earth - Valentine - 1 (trine)Earth - Psyche - 1 (trine)Earth - Juno - 1 (opp)Earth - Amor - 1 (sextile)Earth - Union - 1 (square)Chiron-Earth link in the helio is such an interesting finding.I just checked my helio synastry and indeed, exact Earth-Chiron aspect was there, a 0 degree trine.It's actually a double whammy - Earth-Chiron inconjunct at 0 degree as well.Earth-Uranus trine double whammy , too- at 0 and 1 degree.Earth- Saturn square at a wider, 5 degree orbEarth-Psyche trine at 0 degreeDelilah423I really think one needs to look at Vesta, and maybe even Ceres and Pallas, when looking at soulmate synastries.I had some minor/wide Earth/Chiron contacts with my ex (relationship lasted 8 years), but none with my current beau. Which is kind of odd, since Chiron always figures prominently in my charts (even with female friends)...and we otherwise have several Chiron aspects.Delilah423Here are my helio synastry aspects with my current love. I did add in the exact bQ and Q aspects because I think those are very important, at least in the tropical charts:My Earth conjunct his Mars (0)trine his Eros (1)His Earth square my Pluto (0)My Mercury square his Saturn (1)opposite his Chiron (1)trine his Spirit (0)Quintile his Valentine (0)His Mercury opposite my Neptune (0)trine my Pluto (0)My Venus opposite his Venus (0)quincunx his Mars (0)square his Eros (1) (DW)His Venus trine my Eros (1) (DW)My Mars biquintile his Pluto (0)sextile his Chiron (0)trine his Spirit (1) (DW)His Mars square my Spirit (2) (DW)My Jupiter trine his Chiron (2)opposite his Spirit (1)His Jupiter sextile my Saturn (0)opposite my Psyche (2)conjunct my Union (1)My Saturn square his Uranus (1)My Uranus trine his Chiron (0) (DW)sextile his Spirit (0)His Uranus opposite my Chiron (0) (DW)My Neptune square his Valentine (2)trine his Union (1)His Neptune quintile my Chiron (0)My Pluto trine his Juno (0)opposite his Union (0)His Pluto sextile my Atlantis (0)conjunct my Amor (1)My Chiron square his Psyche (2)His Chiron trine my Valentine (0)Atlantis conjunct Atlantis (0)His Atlantis sextile my Amor (2) (DW)My Atlantis quincunx his Amor (0) (DW)His Spirit opposite my Valentine (0)Amor square Amor (1)EDIT: I should add that I offer no evidence that this synastry has anything to do with longevity (although the Atlantis stuff certainly makes me wonder;-). We have known each other for 20+ years, but have been together as a couple for only 6 months. I do believe he is one of my many soul mates.EDIT #2: I forgot DNA:My DNA trine his Venus (1)His DNA bQ my Pluto (0)square my Atlantis (0) MoonfishEarth-Chiron in Helio is a great discovery
As reference objects i use Earth, Venus, Mars, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto, Chiron, Karma, Union, Juno, DNA, Atlantis, Eros, Psyche, Amor, Valentine, Spirit, Angel. Orbfact = 35 %, to not deal with wide ones, so all the orbs are within 2 degrees at most. Major aspects only + quincunx.
For now i have 11 celebrity couples, my grandparents which i consider were soulmates, and me and my 3 guys (one - my karmic Love, one - platonic soulfriend, one - whose presence make all my chakras especially the highest ones go jingle jingle, and his as well.. )
the couples considered are:
Edgar Cayce - Gladys DavisEdgar Cayce - Gertrude CayceDiego Rivera - Frida KahloHumphrey Bogart - Lauren BacallAntonio Banderas - Mellanie GriffithPaul Mccartney - Linda MccartneyPaul Newman - Joanne WoodwardSri Aurobindo - Mira RichardRobert Browning - Elizabeth Barret BrowningPierre Currie - Marie CurrieLaurence Olivier - Vivien Leigh
If you know another ones, please share, so that i can include them as well - the more, the better.
As for now i have gone through Earth aspects. It turns out that:
Earth - Chiron 9 aspects (3 squares, 2 oppositions, 3 trines and 1 conjunction)Earth - Saturn - 7 (3 squares, 2 sextiles, 1 trine, 1 conjunction)Earth - Pluto - 6 (2 squares, 2 quincunxes, 1 trine, 1 opp)Earth - Neptune - 6 (2 squares, 2 sextiles, 1 trine, 1 opp)Earth - Uranus - 4 (quincunx, square, sextile, trine)Earth - Earth - 3 (1 square, 1 sextile, 1 conjunction)Earth - Eros - 3 (2 sextiles, 1 trine)Earth - Mars - 3 (conjunct, square, trine)Earth - Spirit - 2 (sextile, opp)Earth - Atlantis - 2 (square, opp)Earth - DNA - 2 (square, conjunct)Earth - Valentine - 1 (trine)Earth - Psyche - 1 (trine)Earth - Juno - 1 (opp)Earth - Amor - 1 (sextile)Earth - Union - 1 (square)
quote:Originally posted by Aeline:I will concentrate on the aspects that are most present in these synastries between the abovementioned objects. I remember that IQ once said that in helio squares and oppositions don't carry the same negative energy as in other systems, so i counted them too. As for now i have gone through Earth aspects. It turns out that:Earth - Chiron 9 aspects (3 squares, 2 oppositions, 3 trines and 1 conjunction)Earth - Saturn - 7 (3 squares, 2 sextiles, 1 trine, 1 conjunction)Earth - Pluto - 6 (2 squares, 2 quincunxes, 1 trine, 1 opp)Earth - Neptune - 6 (2 squares, 2 sextiles, 1 trine, 1 opp)Earth - Uranus - 4 (quincunx, square, sextile, trine)Earth - Earth - 3 (1 square, 1 sextile, 1 conjunction)Earth - Eros - 3 (2 sextiles, 1 trine)Earth - Mars - 3 (conjunct, square, trine)Earth - Spirit - 2 (sextile, opp)Earth - Atlantis - 2 (square, opp)Earth - DNA - 2 (square, conjunct)Earth - Valentine - 1 (trine)Earth - Psyche - 1 (trine)Earth - Juno - 1 (opp)Earth - Amor - 1 (sextile)Earth - Union - 1 (square)
Did you do the synastry or composite?
I find the EArth-Chiron link interesting, as in the helio composite of someone who had monopolized much of my mind-space for the last weeks, it turned out that the composite had EARTH trine Chiron exact.And I feel that I experienced a lot of healing. So it def. made sense to me.
BTW to your research and your search-criteria.
I am adding my parents to your set;
composite EARTH aspects:
EARTH trine NeptuneEARTH sextile Pluto
The have a neat little Grand trine of:
EROS on 25 AriesKARMA on 25 LeoMars on 26 LeoChiron on 23 Sagittarius
plus an interlinking T-square of
VALENTINE: 23 PIscesSaturn: 25 Virgo
Both point directly at Chiron near the GC.
Thanks !
Venus - Mars 7 (2 squares, 1 conjunct, 1 opp, 1 trine, 1 sextile)Venus - Uranus 5 (2 squares, 1 opp, 1 trine, 1 conjunct)Venus - Psyche 5 (2 squares, 2 conjuncts, 1 sextile)Venus - Saturn 5 (3 squares, 2 trines)Venus - Eros 4 (2 conjuncts, 1 square, 1 trine)Venus - Pluto 3 (square, sextile, opp)Venus - Neptune 3 (quincunx, square, conjunct)Venus - Venus 2 (square, opp)Venus - Angel 2 (square, quincunx)Venus - Karma 2 (sextile, opp)Venus - Chiron 2 (trine, quincunx)Venus - Valentine 3 (quincunx, square, conjunct)Venus - Spirit 2 (opp, trine)Venus - Juno 2 (2 trines)Venus - Union 1 (square)Venus - Amor 1 (trine)
I also note there is no Earth-Jupiter nor Earth-Venus among the celebrity pairs.
So my parents within this orb:
Earth square EarthEarth sextile VenusEarth sextile Saturn
Venus square EarthUranus sextile Earth exact
Venus trine MErcury exactVEnus quinkunx Chiron
Mars square Venus exactSpirit oposite Venus
Amor-Valentine-Juno-Eros--------------------------
Amor square Mars exactAmor trine UnionAmor square PsycheAmor square SpiritValentine square Neptunevalentine quinkunx PlutoValentine quinkunx PlutoValentine sextile AmorJuno trine Union exacteros trine JUnoEros conjunct ErosEros quinkunx ValentinePsyche conjunct AmorUnion opposit Eros exact
Chiron-Earth link in the helio is such an interesting finding.
I just checked my helio synastry and indeed, exact Earth-Chiron aspect was there, a 0 degree trine.It's actually a double whammy - Earth-Chiron inconjunct at 0 degree as well.
Earth-Uranus trine double whammy , too- at 0 and 1 degree.
Earth- Saturn square at a wider, 5 degree orb
Earth-Psyche trine at 0 degree
I had some minor/wide Earth/Chiron contacts with my ex (relationship lasted 8 years), but none with my current beau. Which is kind of odd, since Chiron always figures prominently in my charts (even with female friends)...and we otherwise have several Chiron aspects.
My Earth conjunct his Mars (0)trine his Eros (1)His Earth square my Pluto (0)
My Mercury square his Saturn (1)opposite his Chiron (1)trine his Spirit (0)Quintile his Valentine (0)His Mercury opposite my Neptune (0)trine my Pluto (0)
My Venus opposite his Venus (0)quincunx his Mars (0)square his Eros (1) (DW)His Venus trine my Eros (1) (DW)
My Mars biquintile his Pluto (0)sextile his Chiron (0)trine his Spirit (1) (DW)His Mars square my Spirit (2) (DW)
My Jupiter trine his Chiron (2)opposite his Spirit (1)His Jupiter sextile my Saturn (0)opposite my Psyche (2)conjunct my Union (1)
My Saturn square his Uranus (1)
My Uranus trine his Chiron (0) (DW)sextile his Spirit (0)His Uranus opposite my Chiron (0) (DW)
My Neptune square his Valentine (2)trine his Union (1)His Neptune quintile my Chiron (0)
My Pluto trine his Juno (0)opposite his Union (0)His Pluto sextile my Atlantis (0)conjunct my Amor (1)
My Chiron square his Psyche (2)His Chiron trine my Valentine (0)
Atlantis conjunct Atlantis (0)His Atlantis sextile my Amor (2) (DW)My Atlantis quincunx his Amor (0) (DW)
His Spirit opposite my Valentine (0)
Amor square Amor (1)
EDIT: I should add that I offer no evidence that this synastry has anything to do with longevity (although the Atlantis stuff certainly makes me wonder;-). We have known each other for 20+ years, but have been together as a couple for only 6 months. I do believe he is one of my many soul mates.
EDIT #2: I forgot DNA:
My DNA trine his Venus (1)His DNA bQ my Pluto (0)square my Atlantis (0)
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