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Aeline
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posted November 10, 2012 08:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aeline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm very interested in these heliocentric relationship charts, so i'm gonna be doing the research.

As reference objects i use Earth, Venus, Mars, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto, Chiron, Karma, Union, Juno, DNA, Atlantis, Eros, Psyche, Amor, Valentine, Spirit, Angel. Orbfact = 35 %, to not deal with wide ones, so all the orbs are within 2 degrees at most. Major aspects only + quincunx.

For now i have 11 celebrity couples, my grandparents which i consider were soulmates, and me and my 3 guys (one - my karmic Love, one - platonic soulfriend, one - whose presence make all my chakras especially the highest ones go jingle jingle, and his as well.. )

the couples considered are:

Edgar Cayce - Gladys Davis
Edgar Cayce - Gertrude Cayce
Diego Rivera - Frida Kahlo
Humphrey Bogart - Lauren Bacall
Antonio Banderas - Mellanie Griffith
Paul Mccartney - Linda Mccartney
Paul Newman - Joanne Woodward
Sri Aurobindo - Mira Richard
Robert Browning - Elizabeth Barret Browning
Pierre Currie - Marie Currie
Laurence Olivier - Vivien Leigh


If you know another ones, please share, so that i can include them as well - the more, the better.

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Aeline
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posted November 10, 2012 08:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aeline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will concentrate on the aspects that are most present in these synastries between the abovementioned objects. I remember that IQ once said that in helio squares and oppositions don't carry the same negative energy as in other systems, so i counted them too.


As for now i have gone through Earth aspects. It turns out that:

Earth - Chiron 9 aspects (3 squares, 2 oppositions, 3 trines and 1 conjunction)
Earth - Saturn - 7 (3 squares, 2 sextiles, 1 trine, 1 conjunction)
Earth - Pluto - 6 (2 squares, 2 quincunxes, 1 trine, 1 opp)
Earth - Neptune - 6 (2 squares, 2 sextiles, 1 trine, 1 opp)
Earth - Uranus - 4 (quincunx, square, sextile, trine)
Earth - Earth - 3 (1 square, 1 sextile, 1 conjunction)
Earth - Eros - 3 (2 sextiles, 1 trine)
Earth - Mars - 3 (conjunct, square, trine)
Earth - Spirit - 2 (sextile, opp)
Earth - Atlantis - 2 (square, opp)
Earth - DNA - 2 (square, conjunct)
Earth - Valentine - 1 (trine)
Earth - Psyche - 1 (trine)
Earth - Juno - 1 (opp)
Earth - Amor - 1 (sextile)
Earth - Union - 1 (square)

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Ceridwen
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posted November 10, 2012 09:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aeline:
I will concentrate on the aspects that are most present in these synastries between the abovementioned objects. I remember that IQ once said that in helio squares and oppositions don't carry the same negative energy as in other systems, so i counted them too.


As for now i have gone through Earth aspects. It turns out that:

Earth - Chiron 9 aspects (3 squares, 2 oppositions, 3 trines and 1 conjunction)
Earth - Saturn - 7 (3 squares, 2 sextiles, 1 trine, 1 conjunction)
Earth - Pluto - 6 (2 squares, 2 quincunxes, 1 trine, 1 opp)
Earth - Neptune - 6 (2 squares, 2 sextiles, 1 trine, 1 opp)
Earth - Uranus - 4 (quincunx, square, sextile, trine)
Earth - Earth - 3 (1 square, 1 sextile, 1 conjunction)
Earth - Eros - 3 (2 sextiles, 1 trine)
Earth - Mars - 3 (conjunct, square, trine)
Earth - Spirit - 2 (sextile, opp)
Earth - Atlantis - 2 (square, opp)
Earth - DNA - 2 (square, conjunct)
Earth - Valentine - 1 (trine)
Earth - Psyche - 1 (trine)
Earth - Juno - 1 (opp)
Earth - Amor - 1 (sextile)
Earth - Union - 1 (square)



Did you do the synastry or composite?

I find the EArth-Chiron link interesting, as in the helio composite of someone who had monopolized much of my mind-space for the last weeks, it turned out that the composite had EARTH trine Chiron exact.
And I feel that I experienced a lot of healing. So it def. made sense to me.


BTW to your research and your search-criteria.


I am adding my parents to your set;


composite EARTH aspects:

EARTH trine Neptune
EARTH sextile Pluto


The have a neat little Grand trine of:

EROS on 25 Aries
KARMA on 25 Leo
Mars on 26 Leo
Chiron on 23 Sagittarius


plus an interlinking T-square of

VALENTINE: 23 PIsces
Saturn: 25 Virgo

Both point directly at Chiron near the GC.


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Aeline
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posted November 10, 2012 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aeline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As for now, it's synastry, but i think that later on i might add composites too.

Thanks !

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Aeline
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posted November 10, 2012 09:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aeline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus

Venus - Mars 7 (2 squares, 1 conjunct, 1 opp, 1 trine, 1 sextile)
Venus - Uranus 5 (2 squares, 1 opp, 1 trine, 1 conjunct)
Venus - Psyche 5 (2 squares, 2 conjuncts, 1 sextile)
Venus - Saturn 5 (3 squares, 2 trines)
Venus - Eros 4 (2 conjuncts, 1 square, 1 trine)
Venus - Pluto 3 (square, sextile, opp)
Venus - Neptune 3 (quincunx, square, conjunct)
Venus - Venus 2 (square, opp)
Venus - Angel 2 (square, quincunx)
Venus - Karma 2 (sextile, opp)
Venus - Chiron 2 (trine, quincunx)
Venus - Valentine 3 (quincunx, square, conjunct)
Venus - Spirit 2 (opp, trine)
Venus - Juno 2 (2 trines)
Venus - Union 1 (square)
Venus - Amor 1 (trine)

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Aeline
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posted November 10, 2012 09:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aeline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ceri, i'll take these when i do composites, could you please, post their helio synastry aspects within these orbs?

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ail221
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posted November 10, 2012 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll include mine helio synastry 2 orb max:
Earth sq venus
Earth sq Pluto
Earth sq mars
Earth qx Mars
Earth QX Neptune
Earth sextile Juno
Earth Opp spirit
venus qx Jupiter dw
venus qx Uranus
Venus opp Angel
Venus sq Valentine
Venus sextile Eros
Mars Sq Uranus
Mars sq Saturn
Mars sq jupiter
Mars opp Eros
Saturn Sq Karma
Chiron qx Neptune
Chiron trine Union
Chiron sq Angel
Pluto trine karma
Uranus conjunct valentine
Neptune conjunct Valentine
psyche trine valentine
Union sextile valentine
Juno sq jupiter
Juno qx psyche
Valentine conjunct Juno
Valentine qx psyche
Karma sq Union
Karma sq Aura

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Jovian
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posted November 13, 2012 04:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jovian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, isn't that very high rate of Earth-Chiron connection interesting. Nine out of eleven. Wow. Nice find!

I also note there is no Earth-Jupiter nor Earth-Venus among the celebrity pairs.

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Ceridwen
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posted November 13, 2012 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For research I am only using a 2 degree orb.

So my parents within this orb:

Earth square Earth
Earth sextile Venus
Earth sextile Saturn

Venus square Earth
Uranus sextile Earth exact

Venus trine MErcury exact
VEnus quinkunx Chiron

Mars square Venus exact
Spirit oposite Venus

Amor-Valentine-Juno-Eros
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Amor square Mars exact
Amor trine Union
Amor square Psyche
Amor square Spirit
Valentine square Neptune
valentine quinkunx Pluto
Valentine quinkunx Pluto
Valentine sextile Amor
Juno trine Union exact
eros trine JUno
Eros conjunct Eros
Eros quinkunx Valentine
Psyche conjunct Amor
Union opposit Eros exact

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Orange
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posted February 26, 2014 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aeline:
I will concentrate on the aspects that are most present in these synastries between the abovementioned objects. I remember that IQ once said that in helio squares and oppositions don't carry the same negative energy as in other systems, so i counted them too.


As for now i have gone through Earth aspects. It turns out that:

Earth - Chiron 9 aspects (3 squares, 2 oppositions, 3 trines and 1 conjunction)
Earth - Saturn - 7 (3 squares, 2 sextiles, 1 trine, 1 conjunction)
Earth - Pluto - 6 (2 squares, 2 quincunxes, 1 trine, 1 opp)
Earth - Neptune - 6 (2 squares, 2 sextiles, 1 trine, 1 opp)
Earth - Uranus - 4 (quincunx, square, sextile, trine)
Earth - Earth - 3 (1 square, 1 sextile, 1 conjunction)
Earth - Eros - 3 (2 sextiles, 1 trine)
Earth - Mars - 3 (conjunct, square, trine)
Earth - Spirit - 2 (sextile, opp)
Earth - Atlantis - 2 (square, opp)
Earth - DNA - 2 (square, conjunct)
Earth - Valentine - 1 (trine)
Earth - Psyche - 1 (trine)
Earth - Juno - 1 (opp)
Earth - Amor - 1 (sextile)
Earth - Union - 1 (square)


Chiron-Earth link in the helio is such an interesting finding.

I just checked my helio synastry and indeed, exact Earth-Chiron aspect was there, a 0 degree trine.
It's actually a double whammy - Earth-Chiron inconjunct at 0 degree as well.

Earth-Uranus trine double whammy , too- at 0 and 1 degree.

Earth- Saturn square at a wider, 5 degree orb

Earth-Psyche trine at 0 degree

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Delilah423
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posted February 26, 2014 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah423     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I really think one needs to look at Vesta, and maybe even Ceres and Pallas, when looking at soulmate synastries.

I had some minor/wide Earth/Chiron contacts with my ex (relationship lasted 8 years), but none with my current beau. Which is kind of odd, since Chiron always figures prominently in my charts (even with female friends)...and we otherwise have several Chiron aspects.

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Delilah423
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posted February 26, 2014 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah423     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here are my helio synastry aspects with my current love. I did add in the exact bQ and Q aspects because I think those are very important, at least in the tropical charts:

My Earth conjunct his Mars (0)
trine his Eros (1)
His Earth square my Pluto (0)

My Mercury square his Saturn (1)
opposite his Chiron (1)
trine his Spirit (0)
Quintile his Valentine (0)
His Mercury opposite my Neptune (0)
trine my Pluto (0)

My Venus opposite his Venus (0)
quincunx his Mars (0)
square his Eros (1) (DW)
His Venus trine my Eros (1) (DW)

My Mars biquintile his Pluto (0)
sextile his Chiron (0)
trine his Spirit (1) (DW)
His Mars square my Spirit (2) (DW)

My Jupiter trine his Chiron (2)
opposite his Spirit (1)
His Jupiter sextile my Saturn (0)
opposite my Psyche (2)
conjunct my Union (1)

My Saturn square his Uranus (1)

My Uranus trine his Chiron (0) (DW)
sextile his Spirit (0)
His Uranus opposite my Chiron (0) (DW)

My Neptune square his Valentine (2)
trine his Union (1)
His Neptune quintile my Chiron (0)

My Pluto trine his Juno (0)
opposite his Union (0)
His Pluto sextile my Atlantis (0)
conjunct my Amor (1)

My Chiron square his Psyche (2)
His Chiron trine my Valentine (0)

Atlantis conjunct Atlantis (0)
His Atlantis sextile my Amor (2) (DW)
My Atlantis quincunx his Amor (0) (DW)

His Spirit opposite my Valentine (0)

Amor square Amor (1)

EDIT: I should add that I offer no evidence that this synastry has anything to do with longevity (although the Atlantis stuff certainly makes me wonder;-). We have known each other for 20+ years, but have been together as a couple for only 6 months. I do believe he is one of my many soul mates.

EDIT #2: I forgot DNA:

My DNA trine his Venus (1)
His DNA bQ my Pluto (0)
square my Atlantis (0)

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posted March 03, 2014 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Earth-Chiron in Helio is a great discovery

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