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Topic: Helio synastry research
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Aeline Knowflake Posts: 1085 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted November 10, 2012 08:37 AM
I'm very interested in these heliocentric relationship charts, so i'm gonna be doing the research. As reference objects i use Earth, Venus, Mars, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto, Chiron, Karma, Union, Juno, DNA, Atlantis, Eros, Psyche, Amor, Valentine, Spirit, Angel. Orbfact = 35 %, to not deal with wide ones, so all the orbs are within 2 degrees at most. Major aspects only + quincunx. For now i have 11 celebrity couples, my grandparents which i consider were soulmates, and me and my 3 guys (one - my karmic Love, one - platonic soulfriend, one - whose presence make all my chakras especially the highest ones go jingle jingle, and his as well.. ) the couples considered are: Edgar Cayce - Gladys Davis Edgar Cayce - Gertrude Cayce Diego Rivera - Frida Kahlo Humphrey Bogart - Lauren Bacall Antonio Banderas - Mellanie Griffith Paul Mccartney - Linda Mccartney Paul Newman - Joanne Woodward Sri Aurobindo - Mira Richard Robert Browning - Elizabeth Barret Browning Pierre Currie - Marie Currie Laurence Olivier - Vivien Leigh If you know another ones, please share, so that i can include them as well - the more, the better.
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Aeline Knowflake Posts: 1085 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted November 10, 2012 08:45 AM
I will concentrate on the aspects that are most present in these synastries between the abovementioned objects. I remember that IQ once said that in helio squares and oppositions don't carry the same negative energy as in other systems, so i counted them too. As for now i have gone through Earth aspects. It turns out that:
Earth - Chiron 9 aspects (3 squares, 2 oppositions, 3 trines and 1 conjunction) Earth - Saturn - 7 (3 squares, 2 sextiles, 1 trine, 1 conjunction) Earth - Pluto - 6 (2 squares, 2 quincunxes, 1 trine, 1 opp) Earth - Neptune - 6 (2 squares, 2 sextiles, 1 trine, 1 opp) Earth - Uranus - 4 (quincunx, square, sextile, trine) Earth - Earth - 3 (1 square, 1 sextile, 1 conjunction) Earth - Eros - 3 (2 sextiles, 1 trine) Earth - Mars - 3 (conjunct, square, trine) Earth - Spirit - 2 (sextile, opp) Earth - Atlantis - 2 (square, opp) Earth - DNA - 2 (square, conjunct) Earth - Valentine - 1 (trine) Earth - Psyche - 1 (trine) Earth - Juno - 1 (opp) Earth - Amor - 1 (sextile) Earth - Union - 1 (square) IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 10977 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted November 10, 2012 09:19 AM
quote: Originally posted by Aeline: I will concentrate on the aspects that are most present in these synastries between the abovementioned objects. I remember that IQ once said that in helio squares and oppositions don't carry the same negative energy as in other systems, so i counted them too. As for now i have gone through Earth aspects. It turns out that:
Earth - Chiron 9 aspects (3 squares, 2 oppositions, 3 trines and 1 conjunction) Earth - Saturn - 7 (3 squares, 2 sextiles, 1 trine, 1 conjunction) Earth - Pluto - 6 (2 squares, 2 quincunxes, 1 trine, 1 opp) Earth - Neptune - 6 (2 squares, 2 sextiles, 1 trine, 1 opp) Earth - Uranus - 4 (quincunx, square, sextile, trine) Earth - Earth - 3 (1 square, 1 sextile, 1 conjunction) Earth - Eros - 3 (2 sextiles, 1 trine) Earth - Mars - 3 (conjunct, square, trine) Earth - Spirit - 2 (sextile, opp) Earth - Atlantis - 2 (square, opp) Earth - DNA - 2 (square, conjunct) Earth - Valentine - 1 (trine) Earth - Psyche - 1 (trine) Earth - Juno - 1 (opp) Earth - Amor - 1 (sextile) Earth - Union - 1 (square)
Did you do the synastry or composite?
I find the EArth-Chiron link interesting, as in the helio composite of someone who had monopolized much of my mind-space for the last weeks, it turned out that the composite had EARTH trine Chiron exact. And I feel that I experienced a lot of healing. So it def. made sense to me. BTW to your research and your search-criteria.
I am adding my parents to your set;
composite EARTH aspects:
EARTH trine Neptune EARTH sextile Pluto The have a neat little Grand trine of:
EROS on 25 Aries KARMA on 25 Leo Mars on 26 Leo Chiron on 23 Sagittarius plus an interlinking T-square of
VALENTINE: 23 PIsces Saturn: 25 Virgo Both point directly at Chiron near the GC.
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Aeline Knowflake Posts: 1085 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted November 10, 2012 09:27 AM
As for now, it's synastry, but i think that later on i might add composites too. Thanks ! IP: Logged |
Aeline Knowflake Posts: 1085 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted November 10, 2012 09:57 AM
VenusVenus - Mars 7 (2 squares, 1 conjunct, 1 opp, 1 trine, 1 sextile) Venus - Uranus 5 (2 squares, 1 opp, 1 trine, 1 conjunct) Venus - Psyche 5 (2 squares, 2 conjuncts, 1 sextile) Venus - Saturn 5 (3 squares, 2 trines) Venus - Eros 4 (2 conjuncts, 1 square, 1 trine) Venus - Pluto 3 (square, sextile, opp) Venus - Neptune 3 (quincunx, square, conjunct) Venus - Venus 2 (square, opp) Venus - Angel 2 (square, quincunx) Venus - Karma 2 (sextile, opp) Venus - Chiron 2 (trine, quincunx) Venus - Valentine 3 (quincunx, square, conjunct) Venus - Spirit 2 (opp, trine) Venus - Juno 2 (2 trines) Venus - Union 1 (square) Venus - Amor 1 (trine) IP: Logged |
Aeline Knowflake Posts: 1085 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted November 10, 2012 09:59 AM
Ceri, i'll take these when i do composites, could you please, post their helio synastry aspects within these orbs? IP: Logged |
ail221 Moderator Posts: 3954 From: Hanging Gardens of Babylon Registered: Feb 2012
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posted November 10, 2012 11:33 AM
I'll include mine helio synastry 2 orb max: Earth sq venus Earth sq Pluto Earth sq mars Earth qx Mars Earth QX Neptune Earth sextile Juno Earth Opp spirit venus qx Jupiter dw venus qx Uranus Venus opp Angel Venus sq Valentine Venus sextile Eros Mars Sq Uranus Mars sq Saturn Mars sq jupiter Mars opp Eros Saturn Sq Karma Chiron qx Neptune Chiron trine Union Chiron sq Angel Pluto trine karma Uranus conjunct valentine Neptune conjunct Valentine psyche trine valentine Union sextile valentine Juno sq jupiter Juno qx psyche Valentine conjunct Juno Valentine qx psyche Karma sq Union Karma sq Aura
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Jovian Knowflake Posts: 598 From: US Registered: May 2012
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posted November 13, 2012 04:46 AM
Yes, isn't that very high rate of Earth-Chiron connection interesting. Nine out of eleven. Wow. Nice find! I also note there is no Earth-Jupiter nor Earth-Venus among the celebrity pairs. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 10977 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted November 13, 2012 01:01 PM
For research I am only using a 2 degree orb.So my parents within this orb: Earth square Earth Earth sextile Venus Earth sextile Saturn Venus square Earth Uranus sextile Earth exact Venus trine MErcury exact VEnus quinkunx Chiron Mars square Venus exact Spirit oposite Venus Amor-Valentine-Juno-Eros -------------------------- Amor square Mars exact Amor trine Union Amor square Psyche Amor square Spirit Valentine square Neptune valentine quinkunx Pluto Valentine quinkunx Pluto Valentine sextile Amor Juno trine Union exact eros trine JUno Eros conjunct Eros Eros quinkunx Valentine Psyche conjunct Amor Union opposit Eros exact IP: Logged |
Orange Knowflake Posts: 1275 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted February 26, 2014 12:37 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aeline: I will concentrate on the aspects that are most present in these synastries between the abovementioned objects. I remember that IQ once said that in helio squares and oppositions don't carry the same negative energy as in other systems, so i counted them too. As for now i have gone through Earth aspects. It turns out that:
Earth - Chiron 9 aspects (3 squares, 2 oppositions, 3 trines and 1 conjunction) Earth - Saturn - 7 (3 squares, 2 sextiles, 1 trine, 1 conjunction) Earth - Pluto - 6 (2 squares, 2 quincunxes, 1 trine, 1 opp) Earth - Neptune - 6 (2 squares, 2 sextiles, 1 trine, 1 opp) Earth - Uranus - 4 (quincunx, square, sextile, trine) Earth - Earth - 3 (1 square, 1 sextile, 1 conjunction) Earth - Eros - 3 (2 sextiles, 1 trine) Earth - Mars - 3 (conjunct, square, trine) Earth - Spirit - 2 (sextile, opp) Earth - Atlantis - 2 (square, opp) Earth - DNA - 2 (square, conjunct) Earth - Valentine - 1 (trine) Earth - Psyche - 1 (trine) Earth - Juno - 1 (opp) Earth - Amor - 1 (sextile) Earth - Union - 1 (square)
Chiron-Earth link in the helio is such an interesting finding. I just checked my helio synastry and indeed, exact Earth-Chiron aspect was there, a 0 degree trine. It's actually a double whammy - Earth-Chiron inconjunct at 0 degree as well. Earth-Uranus trine double whammy , too- at 0 and 1 degree. Earth- Saturn square at a wider, 5 degree orb Earth-Psyche trine at 0 degree IP: Logged |
Delilah423 Knowflake Posts: 161 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted February 26, 2014 01:11 PM
I really think one needs to look at Vesta, and maybe even Ceres and Pallas, when looking at soulmate synastries.I had some minor/wide Earth/Chiron contacts with my ex (relationship lasted 8 years), but none with my current beau. Which is kind of odd, since Chiron always figures prominently in my charts (even with female friends)...and we otherwise have several Chiron aspects. IP: Logged |
Delilah423 Knowflake Posts: 161 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted February 26, 2014 02:06 PM
Here are my helio synastry aspects with my current love. I did add in the exact bQ and Q aspects because I think those are very important, at least in the tropical charts:My Earth conjunct his Mars (0) trine his Eros (1) His Earth square my Pluto (0) My Mercury square his Saturn (1) opposite his Chiron (1) trine his Spirit (0) Quintile his Valentine (0) His Mercury opposite my Neptune (0) trine my Pluto (0) My Venus opposite his Venus (0) quincunx his Mars (0) square his Eros (1) (DW) His Venus trine my Eros (1) (DW) My Mars biquintile his Pluto (0) sextile his Chiron (0) trine his Spirit (1) (DW) His Mars square my Spirit (2) (DW) My Jupiter trine his Chiron (2) opposite his Spirit (1) His Jupiter sextile my Saturn (0) opposite my Psyche (2) conjunct my Union (1) My Saturn square his Uranus (1) My Uranus trine his Chiron (0) (DW) sextile his Spirit (0) His Uranus opposite my Chiron (0) (DW) My Neptune square his Valentine (2) trine his Union (1) His Neptune quintile my Chiron (0) My Pluto trine his Juno (0) opposite his Union (0) His Pluto sextile my Atlantis (0) conjunct my Amor (1) My Chiron square his Psyche (2) His Chiron trine my Valentine (0) Atlantis conjunct Atlantis (0) His Atlantis sextile my Amor (2) (DW) My Atlantis quincunx his Amor (0) (DW) His Spirit opposite my Valentine (0) Amor square Amor (1) EDIT: I should add that I offer no evidence that this synastry has anything to do with longevity (although the Atlantis stuff certainly makes me wonder;-). We have known each other for 20+ years, but have been together as a couple for only 6 months. I do believe he is one of my many soul mates. EDIT #2: I forgot DNA: My DNA trine his Venus (1) His DNA bQ my Pluto (0) square my Atlantis (0) IP: Logged |
Moonfish Moderator Posts: 4275 From: Tropical Ocean Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 03, 2014 11:39 AM
Earth-Chiron in Helio is a great discoveryIP: Logged | |