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T O P I C R E V I E WGemmy.ail221A connection is still a connection. Eros and Psyche are important depending on 1.The type of relationship your talking about i.e. friendship, boyfriend/girlfriend, possible soulmate, twinflame etc. 2. The significance of Eros and Psyche in your natal chart and theirs', in a way your natal chart becomes your astrological blueprint. 3.The number of orbs. If you suspect a possible soulmate multiple soul mate couples are usually needed/ Gemmy.ail221Yup,Sun/moon connection, angles, Nodes, sun/moon midpoint etc Eros and PsycheIsis and OsirisPluto and Persephone/Proserpina Adonis and Aphrodite/Innanen/Ishtar/AstarteSiva and Parvati/KaaliBut you can interconnect with objects of fate i.e. Asteroid Karma, Union, Angel, Saturn,Vertex, North Node, MC and AscEx. A's Eros conjunct B's asc 3 orbs B's Psyche quincunx A's Asc 2 orbsWith orbs under 3 for aspects sometimes 4 orbs for conjunctions and oppositions. Tighter orbs of 3 for trines, Quincunx and Squares. For sextiles 2 orbs and under. Ami Anne quote:Originally posted by Gemmy:Is the Eros and Psyche conjunction in synastry overrated or is it important when it reinforces other soulmate aspects?No, it is super important imo------------------Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/Gemmy.CeridwenI agree with Ail. Eros/Psyche certainly is a significant aspect and worth investigating, but the whole pattern has to be taken into consideration.Especially "backbone" aspects MUST be present (angles, luminaries, nodal axis especially).An Eros-Psyche aspect on its own might not necessarily and under any circumstances mean two people are definitely soulmates.If that were the case John Cusack would be my soulmate. ' His Psyche is precisely conjunct my Eros on 20.5 Cancer. Somehow I doubt that we are soulmates though. Ceridwen"His Sun and pluto trines my stellium of Sun,Moon,Mercury,Venus,Juno and Chiron.His Neptune also opposes it.His Moon conjuncts my Neptune,tight orb."If the orbs are reasonable this is def. important."y Mars opposite his Venus."sign of possible sexual attraction."Eros conjunct Psyche 4 orbs"IMO this is very wide and needs to be strengthened by tight strong aspects."Adonis trine Innanen 3 orbs"It`s okay, but still a tad wide.Those synastries I`ve investigated usually had one or at most 2 degree aspects.4 degrees happen, too, but then there would be other exact soulmate-aspects present."Adonis conjunct Innanen 3 orbs"This is one of the strengthening aspects. Though the orb is 3 degreee, there is a conjunction and it is a DW. As of now this seems to be the stronger pairing than Eros/Psyche."His psyche is also conjunct my Moon,Mercury,and Venus tight orb."The Psyche-Moon-conjunction in tight orb might be a strengthening factor for the Eros-Psyche-conjunction. Psyche-Moon on its own is very soulfoul.Gemmy.CeridwenGemmy,though I like my orbs to be very tight, wider orbs do work to (to a reasonable extent only of course ).however, very tightly knit people or soulmates will have the 2 degree aspects en masse, but wider orbs (for planetary aspects) still work.#so if you have a trine of Sun and Moon with 3 degrees I`?d definitely count it. I think you can be a bit more generous with the aspects of Sun and Moon (well for me generous is like 4 degrees ).Actually it usually is not so much an All-or-nothing thing, but orbs start very strong at exactness, then weaken, fading into the background until they fade away.One of the reason tight orbs are so strong is the fact that they are being triggered by transits simultaneously.So bottomline: For me I use 2 degrees at most with asteroid aspects (3 degrees for conjunction), and 3-4 degrees for planetary aspects, as these are in the "strongly felt group".However, talking about asteroid aspects you also have to keep an eye of DW`s or linked aspects, these might strengthen the aspect that are already present, like with the Adonis-inannen in your case. Even though the trine has an orb of 3 degree (which I usually would not count as strong), I`d consider it in this case, as it is part of a DW, and would carefully analyse any possible Ancient Sumerian or Mesopotamian lifeline, if you believe in past lives that is.CeridwenAnother reason I am using tight orbs is an astronomical-astrological one.Just think of how the ecclipses are defined.There has to be a Sun-Moon-conjunction or opposition with the nodal axis near.However the ecclipse happens only in a certain orb between Sun and Moon.Yesterday`s ecclipse started with Sun-Moon having an orb of 1°29 and it ended with Sun-Moon orb of 1°33.so as you can see ther eis a tight orb needed for an ecclipse to occur which is nothing else but a full or newmoon with the addition of the nodal axis nearby. However, the position of the Moon decided the end and start of the ecclipse as it moves the quickest.Gemmy.CeridwenMost probably you are not looking at the right aspects. If you feel like this, chances are that there are tight aspects in your synastry or composite, sometimes it also occurs in the progressed charts.Gemmy.Aeline quote:Originally posted by Ceridwen:Most probably you are not looking at the right aspects. If you feel like this, chances are that there are tight aspects in your synastry or composite, sometimes it also occurs in the progressed charts.I second that. In my case there were just this nodal connection -Moon conjunct SN, Sun square Nodes. Asteroids seemed to point to either just sexual connection like Eros Aphrodite conjunction on his SN. Or merely psychical like my Sun opposite his Aura. However, i checked through those pairings and we've got Selene - Endymion 2 degree conjunction and they are also tied to karmic objects like nodes in our charts, and the theme was completely appropriate. So . yes, keep looking. CeridwenAeline,Moon-SN in tight conjunction def. is an absolute BIGGIE. I´ve had that once, and the emotional connectedness I´ve felt to this guy, was incredible, and became a hard habit to break so to speak. Gemmy.CeridwenYes, it`s actually very possible to feel attracted to someone who harmed you in a past life. Probably to sort out the issues.the asteroids are just like that, asteroids of fate, depends how they are aspected.ATROPOS conjunct Valentine and trine Amor and Eros in synastry? Nice. Inescapable love, who wouldn´tw ant that?ATROPOS it that which can`t be turned away (tropos: turn; A: negation). Fate.However, since Atropos cuts the thread, it also shows how we deal with endings, losses and rise up again.It seems that the soft aspects of Atropos happen rather frequent in soulmate relationships. http://darkstarastrology.com/asteroid-atropos/ AelineAtropos also deals with endings and death, fateful events in a persons life. And now i see that it's exactly conjunct Sun of my Soulmate. Should i be worried?And i saw Ceridwen's post elsewhere that she checked also Arachne, and i checked it too. OK! Makes sense. It is exactly conjunct his Jupiter and thus mine Atropos as well. And it's also conjunct my ASC in my natal chart. So i'm getting even more confused. *sorry, i'm ill and have nothing else to do here alone *Gemmy.AelineI'll see it a bit later, Gemmy. Another thing that just struck me, how didn't i see it before? Of course, i saw it, but somehow didn't actually realize that it might be significant. My Moon is conjunct my Eros exact.His Moon is conjunct his Psyche! By a degree or so!Gemmy.
Eros and PsycheIsis and OsirisPluto and Persephone/Proserpina Adonis and Aphrodite/Innanen/Ishtar/AstarteSiva and Parvati/Kaali
But you can interconnect with objects of fate i.e. Asteroid Karma, Union, Angel, Saturn,Vertex, North Node, MC and AscEx. A's Eros conjunct B's asc 3 orbs B's Psyche quincunx A's Asc 2 orbs
With orbs under 3 for aspects sometimes 4 orbs for conjunctions and oppositions. Tighter orbs of 3 for trines, Quincunx and Squares. For sextiles 2 orbs and under.
quote:Originally posted by Gemmy:Is the Eros and Psyche conjunction in synastry overrated or is it important when it reinforces other soulmate aspects?
No, it is super important imo
------------------Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal
http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
Eros/Psyche certainly is a significant aspect and worth investigating, but the whole pattern has to be taken into consideration.Especially "backbone" aspects MUST be present (angles, luminaries, nodal axis especially).
An Eros-Psyche aspect on its own might not necessarily and under any circumstances mean two people are definitely soulmates.If that were the case John Cusack would be my soulmate. '
His Psyche is precisely conjunct my Eros on 20.5 Cancer. Somehow I doubt that we are soulmates though.
"y Mars opposite his Venus."sign of possible sexual attraction.
"Eros conjunct Psyche 4 orbs"IMO this is very wide and needs to be strengthened by tight strong aspects.
"Adonis trine Innanen 3 orbs"It`s okay, but still a tad wide.
Those synastries I`ve investigated usually had one or at most 2 degree aspects.
4 degrees happen, too, but then there would be other exact soulmate-aspects present.
"Adonis conjunct Innanen 3 orbs"This is one of the strengthening aspects. Though the orb is 3 degreee, there is a conjunction and it is a DW. As of now this seems to be the stronger pairing than Eros/Psyche.
"His psyche is also conjunct my Moon,Mercury,and Venus tight orb."The Psyche-Moon-conjunction in tight orb might be a strengthening factor for the Eros-Psyche-conjunction. Psyche-Moon on its own is very soulfoul.
though I like my orbs to be very tight, wider orbs do work to (to a reasonable extent only of course ).
however, very tightly knit people or soulmates will have the 2 degree aspects en masse, but wider orbs (for planetary aspects) still work.#
so if you have a trine of Sun and Moon with 3 degrees I`?d definitely count it. I think you can be a bit more generous with the aspects of Sun and Moon (well for me generous is like 4 degrees ).Actually it usually is not so much an All-or-nothing thing, but orbs start very strong at exactness, then weaken, fading into the background until they fade away.
One of the reason tight orbs are so strong is the fact that they are being triggered by transits simultaneously.
So bottomline: For me I use 2 degrees at most with asteroid aspects (3 degrees for conjunction), and 3-4 degrees for planetary aspects, as these are in the "strongly felt group".
However, talking about asteroid aspects you also have to keep an eye of DW`s or linked aspects, these might strengthen the aspect that are already present, like with the Adonis-inannen in your case. Even though the trine has an orb of 3 degree (which I usually would not count as strong), I`d consider it in this case, as it is part of a DW, and would carefully analyse any possible Ancient Sumerian or Mesopotamian lifeline, if you believe in past lives that is.
Just think of how the ecclipses are defined.There has to be a Sun-Moon-conjunction or opposition with the nodal axis near.
However the ecclipse happens only in a certain orb between Sun and Moon.
Yesterday`s ecclipse started with Sun-Moon having an orb of 1°29 and it ended with Sun-Moon orb of 1°33.
so as you can see ther eis a tight orb needed for an ecclipse to occur which is nothing else but a full or newmoon with the addition of the nodal axis nearby. However, the position of the Moon decided the end and start of the ecclipse as it moves the quickest.
If you feel like this, chances are that there are tight aspects in your synastry or composite, sometimes it also occurs in the progressed charts.
quote:Originally posted by Ceridwen:Most probably you are not looking at the right aspects. If you feel like this, chances are that there are tight aspects in your synastry or composite, sometimes it also occurs in the progressed charts.
I second that.
In my case there were just this nodal connection -Moon conjunct SN, Sun square Nodes. Asteroids seemed to point to either just sexual connection like Eros Aphrodite conjunction on his SN. Or merely psychical like my Sun opposite his Aura. However, i checked through those pairings and we've got Selene - Endymion 2 degree conjunction and they are also tied to karmic objects like nodes in our charts, and the theme was completely appropriate. So . yes, keep looking.
Moon-SN in tight conjunction def. is an absolute BIGGIE. I´ve had that once, and the emotional connectedness I´ve felt to this guy, was incredible, and became a hard habit to break so to speak.
the asteroids are just like that, asteroids of fate, depends how they are aspected.
ATROPOS conjunct Valentine and trine Amor and Eros in synastry? Nice. Inescapable love, who wouldn´tw ant that?
ATROPOS it that which can`t be turned away (tropos: turn; A: negation). Fate.
However, since Atropos cuts the thread, it also shows how we deal with endings, losses and rise up again.
It seems that the soft aspects of Atropos happen rather frequent in soulmate relationships. http://darkstarastrology.com/asteroid-atropos/
And i saw Ceridwen's post elsewhere that she checked also Arachne, and i checked it too. OK! Makes sense. It is exactly conjunct his Jupiter and thus mine Atropos as well. And it's also conjunct my ASC in my natal chart. So i'm getting even more confused.
*sorry, i'm ill and have nothing else to do here alone *
Another thing that just struck me, how didn't i see it before? Of course, i saw it, but somehow didn't actually realize that it might be significant.
My Moon is conjunct my Eros exact.His Moon is conjunct his Psyche! By a degree or so!
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