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Topic: Eros and Psyche
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Gemmy Knowflake Posts: 130 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted November 13, 2012 08:32 PM
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ail221 Knowflake Posts: 2527 From: Mary Margaret Blanchard's home Registered: Feb 2012
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posted November 13, 2012 08:40 PM
A connection is still a connection. Eros and Psyche are important depending on 1.The type of relationship your talking about i.e. friendship, boyfriend/girlfriend, possible soulmate, twinflame etc. 2. The significance of Eros and Psyche in your natal chart and theirs', in a way your natal chart becomes your astrological blueprint. 3.The number of orbs. If you suspect a possible soulmate multiple soul mate couples are usually needed/ IP: Logged |
Gemmy Knowflake Posts: 130 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted November 13, 2012 09:55 PM
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ail221 Knowflake Posts: 2527 From: Mary Margaret Blanchard's home Registered: Feb 2012
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posted November 13, 2012 10:04 PM
Yup, Sun/moon connection, angles, Nodes, sun/moon midpoint etc Eros and Psyche Isis and Osiris Pluto and Persephone/Proserpina Adonis and Aphrodite/Innanen/Ishtar/Astarte Siva and Parvati/Kaali But you can interconnect with objects of fate i.e. Asteroid Karma, Union, Angel, Saturn,Vertex, North Node, MC and Asc Ex. A's Eros conjunct B's asc 3 orbs B's Psyche quincunx A's Asc 2 orbs With orbs under 3 for aspects sometimes 4 orbs for conjunctions and oppositions. Tighter orbs of 3 for trines, Quincunx and Squares. For sextiles 2 orbs and under.
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 38886 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 13, 2012 10:41 PM
quote: Originally posted by Gemmy: Is the Eros and Psyche conjunction in synastry overrated or is it important when it reinforces other soulmate aspects?
No, it is super important imo ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Gemmy Knowflake Posts: 130 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted November 14, 2012 01:26 AM
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Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 5090 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted November 14, 2012 01:29 AM
I agree with Ail. Eros/Psyche certainly is a significant aspect and worth investigating, but the whole pattern has to be taken into consideration. Especially "backbone" aspects MUST be present (angles, luminaries, nodal axis especially). An Eros-Psyche aspect on its own might not necessarily and under any circumstances mean two people are definitely soulmates. If that were the case John Cusack would be my soulmate. ' His Psyche is precisely conjunct my Eros on 20.5 Cancer. Somehow I doubt that we are soulmates though.
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Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 5090 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted November 14, 2012 01:39 AM
"His Sun and pluto trines my stellium of Sun,Moon,Mercury,Venus,Juno and Chiron. His Neptune also opposes it. His Moon conjuncts my Neptune,tight orb." If the orbs are reasonable this is def. important."y Mars opposite his Venus." sign of possible sexual attraction. "Eros conjunct Psyche 4 orbs" IMO this is very wide and needs to be strengthened by tight strong aspects. "Adonis trine Innanen 3 orbs" It`s okay, but still a tad wide.
Those synastries I`ve investigated usually had one or at most 2 degree aspects. 4 degrees happen, too, but then there would be other exact soulmate-aspects present. "Adonis conjunct Innanen 3 orbs" This is one of the strengthening aspects. Though the orb is 3 degreee, there is a conjunction and it is a DW. As of now this seems to be the stronger pairing than Eros/Psyche.
"His psyche is also conjunct my Moon,Mercury,and Venus tight orb." The Psyche-Moon-conjunction in tight orb might be a strengthening factor for the Eros-Psyche-conjunction. Psyche-Moon on its own is very soulfoul.
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Gemmy Knowflake Posts: 130 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted November 14, 2012 02:02 AM
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Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 5090 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted November 14, 2012 02:38 AM
Gemmy,though I like my orbs to be very tight, wider orbs do work to (to a reasonable extent only of course ). however, very tightly knit people or soulmates will have the 2 degree aspects en masse, but wider orbs (for planetary aspects) still work.# so if you have a trine of Sun and Moon with 3 degrees I`?d definitely count it. I think you can be a bit more generous with the aspects of Sun and Moon (well for me generous is like 4 degrees ). Actually it usually is not so much an All-or-nothing thing, but orbs start very strong at exactness, then weaken, fading into the background until they fade away. One of the reason tight orbs are so strong is the fact that they are being triggered by transits simultaneously. So bottomline: For me I use 2 degrees at most with asteroid aspects (3 degrees for conjunction), and 3-4 degrees for planetary aspects, as these are in the "strongly felt group". However, talking about asteroid aspects you also have to keep an eye of DW`s or linked aspects, these might strengthen the aspect that are already present, like with the Adonis-inannen in your case. Even though the trine has an orb of 3 degree (which I usually would not count as strong), I`d consider it in this case, as it is part of a DW, and would carefully analyse any possible Ancient Sumerian or Mesopotamian lifeline, if you believe in past lives that is.
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Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 5090 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted November 14, 2012 02:45 AM
Another reason I am using tight orbs is an astronomical-astrological one.Just think of how the ecclipses are defined. There has to be a Sun-Moon-conjunction or opposition with the nodal axis near. However the ecclipse happens only in a certain orb between Sun and Moon. Yesterday`s ecclipse started with Sun-Moon having an orb of 1°29 and it ended with Sun-Moon orb of 1°33. so as you can see ther eis a tight orb needed for an ecclipse to occur which is nothing else but a full or newmoon with the addition of the nodal axis nearby. However, the position of the Moon decided the end and start of the ecclipse as it moves the quickest.
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Gemmy Knowflake Posts: 130 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted November 14, 2012 03:21 AM
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Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 5090 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted November 14, 2012 04:18 AM
Most probably you are not looking at the right aspects. If you feel like this, chances are that there are tight aspects in your synastry or composite, sometimes it also occurs in the progressed charts. IP: Logged |
Gemmy Knowflake Posts: 130 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted November 14, 2012 05:12 AM
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Aeline Knowflake Posts: 1050 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted November 14, 2012 06:20 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Most probably you are not looking at the right aspects. If you feel like this, chances are that there are tight aspects in your synastry or composite, sometimes it also occurs in the progressed charts.
I second that. In my case there were just this nodal connection -Moon conjunct SN, Sun square Nodes. Asteroids seemed to point to either just sexual connection like Eros Aphrodite conjunction on his SN. Or merely psychical like my Sun opposite his Aura. However, i checked through those pairings and we've got Selene - Endymion 2 degree conjunction and they are also tied to karmic objects like nodes in our charts, and the theme was completely appropriate. So . yes, keep looking. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 5090 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted November 14, 2012 07:25 AM
Aeline,Moon-SN in tight conjunction def. is an absolute BIGGIE. I´ve had that once, and the emotional connectedness I´ve felt to this guy, was incredible, and became a hard habit to break so to speak. IP: Logged |
Gemmy Knowflake Posts: 130 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted November 15, 2012 06:01 AM
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Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 5090 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted November 15, 2012 07:12 AM
Yes, it`s actually very possible to feel attracted to someone who harmed you in a past life. Probably to sort out the issues.the asteroids are just like that, asteroids of fate, depends how they are aspected. ATROPOS conjunct Valentine and trine Amor and Eros in synastry? Nice. Inescapable love, who wouldn´tw ant that? ATROPOS it that which can`t be turned away (tropos: turn; A: negation). Fate.
However, since Atropos cuts the thread, it also shows how we deal with endings, losses and rise up again. It seems that the soft aspects of Atropos happen rather frequent in soulmate relationships. http://darkstarastrology.com/asteroid-atropos/ IP: Logged |
Aeline Knowflake Posts: 1050 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted November 15, 2012 08:47 AM
Atropos also deals with endings and death, fateful events in a persons life. And now i see that it's exactly conjunct Sun of my Soulmate. Should i be worried?And i saw Ceridwen's post elsewhere that she checked also Arachne, and i checked it too. OK! Makes sense. It is exactly conjunct his Jupiter and thus mine Atropos as well. And it's also conjunct my ASC in my natal chart. So i'm getting even more confused. *sorry, i'm ill and have nothing else to do here alone * IP: Logged |
Gemmy Knowflake Posts: 130 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted November 15, 2012 11:58 AM
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Aeline Knowflake Posts: 1050 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted November 15, 2012 12:40 PM
I'll see it a bit later, Gemmy. Another thing that just struck me, how didn't i see it before? Of course, i saw it, but somehow didn't actually realize that it might be significant. My Moon is conjunct my Eros exact. His Moon is conjunct his Psyche! By a degree or so! IP: Logged |
Gemmy Knowflake Posts: 130 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted November 16, 2012 12:01 PM
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