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T O P I C R E V I E WsthenrinAenIt is so sorry to hear. It is **** behaviour, no astrological excuses allowed.passionfruit3000Hey sthenri-cheer up! and you are right- it would be such a waste to cry over him. Yeah- i am not very fond of Picean Asc or men with Piceas sun myself- they always seem to be swimming in opposite directions or just don't know what the hell they want! This guy has a Gem sun and a ¨Piceas Asc, so you have urself a man who is very mutable and he may drive you up the wall with acting one way and saying something different. You can't control the way people behave but you can control whether you are willing or not to put yourself in a position to be hurt. Hope I made you feel better!ichigo_fizzI'm so sorry to hear that. ;_; That's heartbreaking just to read. I've always thought that values these days are going to the dogs, and it seems that way if sex is all that's important anymore. I'm so sorry, I wish there was more I could do to make you feel better. I've heard so many stories like these.. it doesn't make it any less depressing to hear it again though. I'm sorry. T_Tlovely*OMG, he sounds like a major phucker! why bother having dinner with him?sthenriLovely, I don't know, I guess to show him up?I'm going to edit this for history's sake,I really don't know what my plans are right now,Thanks,NatashaTaurusYin.miss_muffetHi Natsha,My heart goes out to you. I think it's the combination of Gemini Sun and Pisces Ascendant. I know a guy that is exactly like that when he was younger. He has a Pisces Sun and Gemini Ascendant. No real committment or relationship in mind, just sex. But all in all, it's his loss not yours. Chin up, sweetie!sthenrinYin.sthenriThanks Yin, I know that he wanted to move in together at some point and I said it was too soon, I figured we had time and he agreed. Now I know, he must of have been hurt by that and went looking. Unfortunately I do have to see him for the time being, he's leaving anyway after Christmas which is a big relief.Work wise, I can't just leave my territory(sounds like a Taurus or a Sag)NatashaVirgo-AriesArtistaww, Natasha,...honey, I really feel for you...So, so sorry, that these men in your life keep playing facades of normalacy to conceal their dysfunctional natures. You deserve so much better!((((((Natasha)))))))For the Sag in you, go out and get the Christina Aguilera CD "Stripped" or at least her song "Fighter"...it's very empowering. (If you are able to download stuff, I could send you the song too)-------------------K"Most people love with restraintAs if they were someday to hateWe hated gently, carefullyAs if we were someday to love"-Venus Trines at Midnightsthenrinpixelpixie to Natasha~Such a strong woman with such a wonderfully real, yet romantic way of looking at relationships.It pains me that you've yet to find one to match your vision. You will work hard at things. Not just skim the surface to keep the peace.I know soon you will find what you seek. In the meantime, you can show the 'little boys' what a real woman looks like and acts like and thinks like.. and then hopefully the realness of you will stick and show them how to grow up.Keep that beautiful heart open... but keep it beind many layers, revealing it slowly. Yin.chrissymgreenim so sorry natasha! i hope you feel better.does his gemini sun square his pisces ascendant? just curious. dont know if you mentioned this or not.sincerely,csthenriHis sun is on the IC line square pluto and uranus, and makes an aspect to Neptune, but no aspect to ascendant or saturn.saturn is in pisces on the ascendant.Saturn is opp uranus and plutomars opp sun, moon, jupiter and neptuneAll those aspects to neptune make him seductive, I have been told,Thanks,NatashapidauaHi Natasha, I'm sorry about what happened. It sounds like he is not a healthy person for you to be with and let's face it- although Taurus can deal with ALOT..you all do need stability. Even when paired with a quirky partner- the Taurus easily picks up the patterns and can deal with the unheavels..What you cannot deal with is his emotional roller coaster.Hey..I have Sun in the IC conjunct Venus (Both of which square my Pluto / Asc in the 1st house)- with a strong Neptune making a square to my Mars in Pisces. I know that I can be charming and seductive..and it was fun to play with that when I was young.But, at some point a person needs to claim responsibility for their actions and how they affect others. Your Gem with his Pisces Asc is NOT respecting your emotions nor is he taking responsibility for his actions. Sure people make throw themselves at him. Oddly enough, when Mr. Taurus and I are out, he EXPECTS people to come up tp me- it's weird but even in front of him people(yes men and women) will try hard to get my attention or make passes at me- but I have to be responsibly enough not to fall into that pit.It can be powerful..alluring, to have people "want you" -but a more evolved person realizes it is only superficial- the real love is the person that accepts you for who you are and KNOWS that you won't do anything to hurt them. That is why I love Mr. Taurus so much - he doesn't get angry when people try to flirt with me , not like Mr. Leo did, nor does he try to sequester me like Mr. Virgo did. In any case, being seductive or charming does not mean a damn thing and it's not an excuse to cheat or to fall into bed with someone. Can I ask you one thing Natasha..Did you lay down the law with him? Did you tell him under no uncertain terms would you be with someone that wanted sexual relationships with others? Sometimes (and this is NO excuse) Mutable signs NEED that boundry. We NEED to be told what the other person expects- or else that long leash IS long enough that we will hang ourselves. sthenrinAphroditeNatasha, Aww. If you lived nearby, I'd invite you out to coffee and bring along a box of tissues. It's not easy for us folks being recently out of a serious relationship (weren't with a Libra Sun man? I was with a Capricorn Sun/Virgo Moon/Gemini Rising man) and swirling about in the dating world.I was flipping through one of several journals I keep and thought you might like this, since we both have the Moon in the 8th house:"I hope love breathes into my heart and makes it their home."I hope it reasonates with you. AphroditeMysticScorpio"Why do Pisces men lie so much?" They do coz they're afraid of confrontaion or dealing with any ugly emotions, so they find it easier to just lie rather than confront. That's my experience with them, it's frustrating, but it's true. Just thought I'd share. Christina Aguilera's song fighter really is great! I used to listen to it when pisces guy started seeing someone else and it broke my heart really gives you a self esteem boost.Take Care Natasha, U deserve the best lovely lionessDear Natasha,I'm so sorry about what happened...I've been through my own struggles with a Pisces sun/Gemini moon guy (I'm sure I've mentioned him before).Wish there was more I could do or say, but I just wanted you to know that I empathize with you.OXsweetlibra Natasha,You are gem of a woman.And obviously he doesnt deserve you..!Sending love & positive thoughts sthenriThanks, I hope another woman bites him on the butt someday.I will post back on Saturday or Sunday, as I will probably still be a little emotional after the dinner. It's hard trying to stay on top of everything without getting upset. I am going to pick up some herbal antidepressants for the trip this week.Natashalioneye68Natasha, Oh Lovely Lady....It's not you. It's him. Apparently, he's not worthy of you. He's just another "lesser" mortal who doesn't have the level of integrity that you need in a man. What can you do? There are lesser mortals, and there are greater. Keep seeking the latter, but try not to resent the former. Just try to recognize them as that BEFORE your emotions get thrown into the fray and you find out the hard way what you already knew. Perhaps you were a little too impressed with the wrong things about him and you overlooked a (probably) glaring lack of integrity in favor of them. You're probably feeling like "I should have known better. Shame on me". Ah well...forgive yourself, rise above it, and move on. Be freindly and kind and DETACHED toward him. Don't forget, hate is NOT the opposite of love - INDIFFERENCE is. Do this, and in time, you may find that he wants to be with you again. Then, you will have to decide at that time if YOU want to have anything to do with that inevitable train-wreck situation again. Once bitten...and all that stuff. Anyway.... from someone who's been there too.
It is **** behaviour, no astrological excuses allowed.
why bother having dinner with him?
I'm going to edit this for history's sake,I really don't know what my plans are right now,
Thanks,NatashaTaurus
My heart goes out to you.
I think it's the combination of Gemini Sun and Pisces Ascendant. I know a guy that is exactly like that when he was younger. He has a Pisces Sun and Gemini Ascendant. No real committment or relationship in mind, just sex.
But all in all, it's his loss not yours. Chin up, sweetie!
Work wise, I can't just leave my territory(sounds like a Taurus or a Sag)
Natasha
((((((Natasha)))))))
For the Sag in you, go out and get the Christina Aguilera CD "Stripped" or at least her song "Fighter"...it's very empowering. (If you are able to download stuff, I could send you the song too)
-------------------K"Most people love with restraintAs if they were someday to hateWe hated gently, carefullyAs if we were someday to love"-Venus Trines at Midnight
does his gemini sun square his pisces ascendant? just curious. dont know if you mentioned this or not.
sincerely,c
Saturn is opp uranus and plutomars opp sun, moon, jupiter and neptune
All those aspects to neptune make him seductive, I have been told,
Thanks,Natasha
I'm sorry about what happened. It sounds like he is not a healthy person for you to be with and let's face it- although Taurus can deal with ALOT..you all do need stability. Even when paired with a quirky partner- the Taurus easily picks up the patterns and can deal with the unheavels..
What you cannot deal with is his emotional roller coaster.
Hey..I have Sun in the IC conjunct Venus (Both of which square my Pluto / Asc in the 1st house)- with a strong Neptune making a square to my Mars in Pisces. I know that I can be charming and seductive..and it was fun to play with that when I was young.
But, at some point a person needs to claim responsibility for their actions and how they affect others. Your Gem with his Pisces Asc is NOT respecting your emotions nor is he taking responsibility for his actions.
Sure people make throw themselves at him. Oddly enough, when Mr. Taurus and I are out, he EXPECTS people to come up tp me- it's weird but even in front of him people(yes men and women) will try hard to get my attention or make passes at me- but I have to be responsibly enough not to fall into that pit.
It can be powerful..alluring, to have people "want you" -but a more evolved person realizes it is only superficial- the real love is the person that accepts you for who you are and KNOWS that you won't do anything to hurt them. That is why I love Mr. Taurus so much - he doesn't get angry when people try to flirt with me , not like Mr. Leo did, nor does he try to sequester me like Mr. Virgo did.
In any case, being seductive or charming does not mean a damn thing and it's not an excuse to cheat or to fall into bed with someone.
Can I ask you one thing Natasha..Did you lay down the law with him? Did you tell him under no uncertain terms would you be with someone that wanted sexual relationships with others? Sometimes (and this is NO excuse) Mutable signs NEED that boundry. We NEED to be told what the other person expects- or else that long leash IS long enough that we will hang ourselves.
Aww. If you lived nearby, I'd invite you out to coffee and bring along a box of tissues.
It's not easy for us folks being recently out of a serious relationship (weren't with a Libra Sun man? I was with a Capricorn Sun/Virgo Moon/Gemini Rising man) and swirling about in the dating world.
I was flipping through one of several journals I keep and thought you might like this, since we both have the Moon in the 8th house:
"I hope love breathes into my heart and makes it their home."
I hope it reasonates with you.
Aphrodite
I'm so sorry about what happened...I've been through my own struggles with a Pisces sun/Gemini moon guy (I'm sure I've mentioned him before).
Wish there was more I could do or say, but I just wanted you to know that I empathize with you.OX
You are gem of a woman.And obviously he doesnt deserve you..!Sending love & positive thoughts
I will post back on Saturday or Sunday, as I will probably still be a little emotional after the dinner. It's hard trying to stay on top of everything without getting upset. I am going to pick up some herbal antidepressants for the trip this week.
You're probably feeling like "I should have known better. Shame on me".
Ah well...forgive yourself, rise above it, and move on. Be freindly and kind and DETACHED toward him. Don't forget, hate is NOT the opposite of love - INDIFFERENCE is. Do this, and in time, you may find that he wants to be with you again. Then, you will have to decide at that time if YOU want to have anything to do with that inevitable train-wreck situation again. Once bitten...and all that stuff.
Anyway.... from someone who's been there too.
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