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T O P I C R E V I E WWildRoseThis will sound shocking, perhaps, but I'm kind of in love with someone who is...well...27 years my senior...Yup! I mean, I always liked older guys, but not that old(er). My 7th house is empty, so without Saturn influence, BUT I do have:Saturn conjunct ASC & Saturn conjunct Mars? Could that be the reason?What are your experiences? What placement in natal chart defines tendency towards older guys? I’m puzzled!ArnickaWildRose ~ If you find that you're rarely ever attracted to anyone then the Saturn Mars conjunction would be at work here as well. Acts like a Capricorn Mars.jkxxDon't know the specifics, but it's true that saturn's going to give you a liking for people who have gottten somewhere in life through perseverence or simply seem more mature. The 27 year difference probably puts that person's saturn into a conjunct interaspect with your own mars, that could play a role too.peaceMy husband is 21 yrs. older than me.My Saturn is in the 5th house.I've always had crushes on older men since I was little girl.I had crush on Spock from Star Trek(I know,kinda weird),Michael Nesmith of the Monkees,and Peter Jennings.Catherine Zeta- Jones also has Saturn in the 5th house,which probably explains why she is married to Michael Douglas 25 yrs. her senior. Gooberzlostlovefoundwildrose~ what is your chart like? sun, moon, rising? venus, mars?I'm curious. (I like older guys, too. Sometimes a lot older) mysticaldreamI also have saturn in the fifth house; here is something I found:Competition for these people is deadlily serious, whatever form it may take. They take romance very seriously. There may be an inner conflict over morals versus sexual needs. They are inclined to have at least one affair with someone quite a bit older than themselves, or at least a severe crush. They are inclined to allow ambition to affect romance, desiring a relationship with one who is, or seems to be, important, or who might enhance their status in some way. This desire is not likely to be satisfied. If they get the desired relationship, it will probably bring very different results from those they had hoped. There is often a sense of loss or disappointment with romance. THey may feel that they have not had as much as others, although in fact they may have had more than most. They may brood for years over a heartbreak that others would have forgotten soon after, or feel guilty over the hurt they themselves have caused discarded lovers. They tend to view fifth-house matters in much too serious a light. They need to learn to emphasize joy and gaiety; less moralizing, less judgement, fewer demands on themselves as well as their lovers. I actually usually go for younger myself but this supports your theory that it is Saturn!SelenaYes, it is Saturn in some shape or form. But the interesting thing also is, as a woman with Saturn goes older, she may go for much younger guys. So it works both ways. WildRoseThanx, guys!I don't think I'm rarely ever attracted to anyone,quite the opposite in fact, but I've never been attracted to someone of my own age, oh, no, or even couple of years older.I can't explain it, but I've always found guys (men, real men!Mmmmm...) who are at least 10 years older than me extremely fascinating. I never had a good relationship with my father,that's for sure - he always seemed cold to me, so that would explain some things, but I'm more interesed in ASTROLOGICAL reasons.Here's my chart: http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?nhor=1&nho2=2&btyp=24&mth=gw&hsy=&zod=&sday=14&smon=3&syr=2006&rs=&orbp=&cid=injfileM2Sytg-u1139526611&lang=e&gm=a1&ast= I read somewhere that Maria Calas also had Saturn conjunct Mars in Libra.Yeey!sue gNot sure about the Saturn thing.....But I am married to a guy 11 years younger, which I consider to be quite a small age gap....hahahha.....I also have a close bond with a guy 21 years younger......That wouldnt create a problem for me, as I like younger men !!!So if you like older ones....then SO BE IT !!!!!XXWildRoseWell said, Sue!It really means to me, because noone seems 2 support me on this...EARTHY_ZEPHYR ------------------SUN-VIR,MOON-AQUA,ASC-LIBsue gWild Rose......I have been told by a shaman healer that women are jealous of me cos I am with a young attractive man....I laugh at this, and to some point revel in it...at times I can be a bit of a She said they say I am only with him becos of sex....ive been with him for 17 years and we have a 7 year old child together !!! Well sexually yeah I do like a younger man, but if I was to meet someone who was 70 and we connected, then the age wouldnt come into it.People are so fecking concerned with how others lead their lives....and are ready to judge without knowing the full story !!!Go ahead Wild and do what YOU want, and let the others stew in their own frustrations...One of my fave cats is called Wild....she is beautiful, as I am sure you are !!lovexxxalanabelle86this is interesting. My best friend is 19 and her boyfriend is 59 years old. Her first boyfriend when she was 16 was 57. She's never dated a man under 40. She says she's just not attracted to them at all. She'd got some Uranus aspects to her Venus but I mean no blatant Saturn aspects that stand out to me...heres her chart..Sun Cancer 10°21'12 11 directMoon Taurus 19°26'47 10 directMercury Leo 04°22'44 12 directVenus Leo 19°31'55 12 directMars Capricorn 19°49'17 05 retrogradeJupiter Pisces 22°41'20 08 directSaturn Sagittarius 04°02'25 04 retrogradeUranus Sagittarius 19°32'47 04 retrogradeNeptune Capricorn 04°15'54 05 retrogradePluto Scorpio 04°34'55 03 retrogradeTrue Node Aries 27°18'22 09 retrogradeHouse positions (Placidus)Ascendant Leo 23°56'51 2nd House Virgo 16°01'33 3rd House Libra 13°20'07 Imum Coeli Scorpio 16°18'36 5th House Sagittarius 22°03'04 6th House Capricorn 25°18'25 Descendant Aquarius 23°56'51 8th House Pisces 16°01'33 9th House Aries 13°20'07 Medium Coeli Taurus 16°18'36 11th House Gemini 22°03'04 12th House Cancer 25°18'25 Major aspectsSun Opposition Neptune 6°05Sun Trine Pluto 5°46Moon Square Venus 0°05Moon Trine Mars 0°23Moon Sextile Jupiter 3°15Moon Quincunx Uranus 0°06Moon Square Ascendant 4°30Mercury Trine Saturn 0°20Mercury Quincunx Neptune 0°07Mercury Square Pluto 0°12Venus Quincunx Mars 0°17Venus Trine Uranus 0°01Venus Conjunction Ascendant 4°25Mars Sextile Jupiter 2°52Jupiter Square Uranus 3°09Jupiter Quincunx Ascendant 1°16Uranus Trine Ascendant 4°24Neptune Sextile Pluto 0°19anything stick out to you?wilsontcRose,Since you have Libra (relationships) modifying Saturn (duty, also authority) conjunct (energy is combined with) Ascendant (self), you might be personally interested in relating to older, people of authority. In addition, Sun (self-expression, also dating) focused in the 10th house (duty, also authority) could re-emphasize the interest in people in authority.Charting,Tim------------------For information on basic astrological chart interpretation see: http://www.geocities.com/wilsontctc mysticaldreamThat is interesting, Tim.What type of aspects would you expect from someone who is always attracted to YOUNGER men? SandraLibra Sun/Libra Moon/Scorpio AscendantWildRoseThanx, Tim, there's lot of truth in what you said, I must admit.When I think about it, I am usually attracted to very VERY powerful men, but than, who's not...*sigh*IsolaedeI fit this mold too. I've always been attracted to older men. When I was a kid, Spock was my kind of guy, and then later on I had a thing for Picard. My favorite actors have always been older. And I’ve almost always dated men that were at least 5 years older than myself, and have no issues with the idea of dating someone 20+ years older. Perhaps it's a Cancer thing - our opposite is Cap which is the perfect astrological reputation of a reliable older man.Sun Cancer 18°31'28 08 directMoon Taurus 18°48'29 06 directMercury Leo 00°51'07 08 directVenus Gemini 04°36'49 07 directMars Taurus 25°17'57 06 directJupiter Gemini 21°58'17 07 directSaturn Leo 16°14'08 09 directUranus Scorpio 07°41'57 11 stationary (D)Neptune Sagittarius 13°53'16 01 retrogradePluto Libra 11°30'13 10 directTrue Node Libra 20°12'29 10/11 retrogradeHouse positions (Placidus)Ascendant Sagittarius 02°57'17 2nd House Capricorn 05°38'01 3rd House Aquarius 14°59'32 Imum Coeli Pisces 22°31'02 5th House Aries 21°54'42 6th House Taurus 14°23'04 Descendant Gemini 02°57'17 8th House Cancer 05°38'01 9th House Leo 14°59'32 MC Virgo 22°31'02 11th House Libra 21°54'42 12th House Scorpio 14°23'04 Major aspectsSun Sextile Moon 0°17Sun Sextile Mars 6°46Sun Square Pluto 7°01Moon Conjunction Mars 6°29Moon Square Saturn 2°34Mercury Sextile Venus 3°46Mercury Sextile Mars 5°33Mercury Trine Ascendant 2°06Venus Opposition Ascendant 1°40Jupiter Sextile Saturn 5°44Saturn Trine Neptune 2°21Saturn Sextile Pluto 4°44Neptune Sextile Pluto 2°23WildRoseOops! I haven’t read some posts here!Sue g, YOU ARE REALLY SOMETHING!!! You made my day, no, wait, you made my whole week! If only there were more people like you, this world would be such a better place (I don’t want to sound pathetic...but it’s true!!) I like people with attitude, who know what they want in life. If I listened to some of my narrow-minded ‘friends’ who know what’s best for me better than myself, I would end up miserable in arms of someone I don’t even like. I’m so glad there are more people like you and me!Alanabelle, I’ve noticed your friend’s Cancer, like me, so perhaps there’s something in it...Her Mars is in Capricorn, which should be representing more mature men in her life, or something like that. Also, Saturn and Uranus, both in 5th house – whoa! - definite sign that she’s attracted to much much older men (lucky b****). XXX wilsontcmystical,You asked: quote:What type of aspects would you expect from someone who is always attracted to YOUNGER men?In my opinion, age differences in relationships usually indicate Capricorn/Saturn (duty, also authority, maturity) connections in some way...unless someone is simply relating to someone else older in the hopes they will get all their money! However, if there is a real attraction to age, this seems to be a Saturn connection. Particular "hot spots" of focus could be Capricorn/Saturn around Ascendant (self), 1rst house (being), 5th house (self-expression, also dating), and 7th house (relationships). Also the Sun (self-expression, also dating) in the 10th house. Just a few of the many different ways old/young attraction could be indicated in a chart!Exampling,TimGooberzlostlovefoundI think you are on to something, Tim. I'm a Capricorn and have Saturn in the 10th house. Maybe it is also a Cancer/Cappy thing, as well? Both signs need **security**...not just financial, but emotional. I've realized that I feel safer emotionally with someone older than me. I tend to like older people of both genders in general......maturity & wisdom are more attractive to me than they are to most, I suppose.Interesting topic.peaceGooberz,I think Sun Virgos are attracted to older people as well.Here are a few names:Shania Twain born 8/28/1965Her husband:Robert Mutt Lange 11/11/1948Lauren Bacall born 9/16/1924Her husband:Humphrey Bogart 12/25/1899*Ricahrd Marx 9/16/1963His wife:Cynthia Rhodes 11/21/1956*Humphrey's birthday has been a mystery according to wikipedia.Mystic GeminiI have always loved older men. Capricorn descendant here.------------------Gemini sun, Cancer rising, mercury in Gemini, moon in Taurus *29, venus in Taurus, mars in Libra-I took a walk around the world to ease my troubled mind. I left my body lying somewhere in the sands of time. But I watched the world float to the dark side of the moon. I feel there's nothing I can do.-Three Doors DownWildRoseHey peace - bingo! Bogart is one of my favourite actors!!!I don't even need wikipedia, I can FEEL his Capricornian energy just by watching him. He's the best example, no, he's a symbol of Capricorns! *Says *
I'm curious.
(I like older guys, too. Sometimes a lot older)
Competition for these people is deadlily serious, whatever form it may take. They take romance very seriously. There may be an inner conflict over morals versus sexual needs. They are inclined to have at least one affair with someone quite a bit older than themselves, or at least a severe crush. They are inclined to allow ambition to affect romance, desiring a relationship with one who is, or seems to be, important, or who might enhance their status in some way. This desire is not likely to be satisfied. If they get the desired relationship, it will probably bring very different results from those they had hoped. There is often a sense of loss or disappointment with romance. THey may feel that they have not had as much as others, although in fact they may have had more than most. They may brood for years over a heartbreak that others would have forgotten soon after, or feel guilty over the hurt they themselves have caused discarded lovers. They tend to view fifth-house matters in much too serious a light. They need to learn to emphasize joy and gaiety; less moralizing, less judgement, fewer demands on themselves as well as their lovers.
I actually usually go for younger myself but this supports your theory that it is Saturn!
But I am married to a guy 11 years younger, which I consider to be quite a small age gap....hahahha.....
I also have a close bond with a guy 21 years younger......
That wouldnt create a problem for me, as I like younger men !!!
So if you like older ones....then SO BE IT !!!!!
XX
------------------SUN-VIR,MOON-AQUA,ASC-LIB
I have been told by a shaman healer that women are jealous of me cos I am with a young attractive man....I laugh at this, and to some point revel in it...at times I can be a bit of a She said they say I am only with him becos of sex....ive been with him for 17 years and we have a 7 year old child together !!!
Well sexually yeah I do like a younger man, but if I was to meet someone who was 70 and we connected, then the age wouldnt come into it.
People are so fecking concerned with how others lead their lives....and are ready to judge without knowing the full story !!!
Go ahead Wild and do what YOU want, and let the others stew in their own frustrations...
One of my fave cats is called Wild....she is beautiful, as I am sure you are !!
love
xxx
heres her chart..
Sun Cancer 10°21'12 11 directMoon Taurus 19°26'47 10 directMercury Leo 04°22'44 12 directVenus Leo 19°31'55 12 directMars Capricorn 19°49'17 05 retrogradeJupiter Pisces 22°41'20 08 directSaturn Sagittarius 04°02'25 04 retrogradeUranus Sagittarius 19°32'47 04 retrogradeNeptune Capricorn 04°15'54 05 retrogradePluto Scorpio 04°34'55 03 retrogradeTrue Node Aries 27°18'22 09 retrograde
House positions (Placidus)Ascendant Leo 23°56'51 2nd House Virgo 16°01'33 3rd House Libra 13°20'07 Imum Coeli Scorpio 16°18'36 5th House Sagittarius 22°03'04 6th House Capricorn 25°18'25 Descendant Aquarius 23°56'51 8th House Pisces 16°01'33 9th House Aries 13°20'07 Medium Coeli Taurus 16°18'36 11th House Gemini 22°03'04 12th House Cancer 25°18'25 Major aspectsSun Opposition Neptune 6°05Sun Trine Pluto 5°46Moon Square Venus 0°05Moon Trine Mars 0°23Moon Sextile Jupiter 3°15Moon Quincunx Uranus 0°06Moon Square Ascendant 4°30Mercury Trine Saturn 0°20Mercury Quincunx Neptune 0°07Mercury Square Pluto 0°12Venus Quincunx Mars 0°17Venus Trine Uranus 0°01Venus Conjunction Ascendant 4°25Mars Sextile Jupiter 2°52Jupiter Square Uranus 3°09Jupiter Quincunx Ascendant 1°16Uranus Trine Ascendant 4°24Neptune Sextile Pluto 0°19
anything stick out to you?
Since you have Libra (relationships) modifying Saturn (duty, also authority) conjunct (energy is combined with) Ascendant (self), you might be personally interested in relating to older, people of authority. In addition, Sun (self-expression, also dating) focused in the 10th house (duty, also authority) could re-emphasize the interest in people in authority.
Charting,
Tim
------------------For information on basic astrological chart interpretation see: http://www.geocities.com/wilsontctc
SandraLibra Sun/Libra Moon/Scorpio Ascendant
Sun Cancer 18°31'28 08 directMoon Taurus 18°48'29 06 directMercury Leo 00°51'07 08 directVenus Gemini 04°36'49 07 directMars Taurus 25°17'57 06 directJupiter Gemini 21°58'17 07 directSaturn Leo 16°14'08 09 directUranus Scorpio 07°41'57 11 stationary (D)Neptune Sagittarius 13°53'16 01 retrogradePluto Libra 11°30'13 10 directTrue Node Libra 20°12'29 10/11 retrograde
House positions (Placidus)Ascendant Sagittarius 02°57'17 2nd House Capricorn 05°38'01 3rd House Aquarius 14°59'32 Imum Coeli Pisces 22°31'02 5th House Aries 21°54'42 6th House Taurus 14°23'04 Descendant Gemini 02°57'17 8th House Cancer 05°38'01 9th House Leo 14°59'32 MC Virgo 22°31'02 11th House Libra 21°54'42 12th House Scorpio 14°23'04 Major aspectsSun Sextile Moon 0°17Sun Sextile Mars 6°46Sun Square Pluto 7°01Moon Conjunction Mars 6°29Moon Square Saturn 2°34Mercury Sextile Venus 3°46Mercury Sextile Mars 5°33Mercury Trine Ascendant 2°06Venus Opposition Ascendant 1°40Jupiter Sextile Saturn 5°44Saturn Trine Neptune 2°21Saturn Sextile Pluto 4°44Neptune Sextile Pluto 2°23
XXX
You asked:
quote:What type of aspects would you expect from someone who is always attracted to YOUNGER men?
In my opinion, age differences in relationships usually indicate Capricorn/Saturn (duty, also authority, maturity) connections in some way...unless someone is simply relating to someone else older in the hopes they will get all their money! However, if there is a real attraction to age, this seems to be a Saturn connection. Particular "hot spots" of focus could be Capricorn/Saturn around Ascendant (self), 1rst house (being), 5th house (self-expression, also dating), and 7th house (relationships). Also the Sun (self-expression, also dating) in the 10th house. Just a few of the many different ways old/young attraction could be indicated in a chart!
Exampling,
I'm a Capricorn and have Saturn in the 10th house.
Maybe it is also a Cancer/Cappy thing, as well? Both signs need **security**...not just financial, but emotional. I've realized that I feel safer emotionally with someone older than me. I tend to like older people of both genders in general......maturity & wisdom are more attractive to me than they are to most, I suppose.
Interesting topic.
Shania Twain born 8/28/1965Her husband:Robert Mutt Lange 11/11/1948
Lauren Bacall born 9/16/1924Her husband:Humphrey Bogart 12/25/1899*
Ricahrd Marx 9/16/1963His wife:Cynthia Rhodes 11/21/1956
*Humphrey's birthday has been a mystery according to wikipedia.
------------------Gemini sun, Cancer rising, mercury in Gemini, moon in Taurus *29, venus in Taurus, mars in Libra
-I took a walk around the world to ease my troubled mind. I left my body lying somewhere in the sands of time. But I watched the world float to the dark side of the moon. I feel there's nothing I can do.
-Three Doors Down
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