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T O P I C R E V I E WTauroHey.massive weekend for me, i'll fill you in.Went out to a club with my aqua ex girlfriend and her friend, as i said in my previous post, we are still kinda together but i seriously think i'm being played now.Because i don't trust her and she is sly, i read her msn convo between her friend about a week ago and she wanted her to goto this club to meet this other guy called tom and she said she showed the guy a photo of her on her phone and that he was a bit of ladies man and that all the girls seem to be interested in her.Anyway, we rocked up at this club, me, my ex and her friend. then we met up with her friend who she spoke to on msn. we went to the dancefloor and there was this guy, i'm not sure if it was tom but he was walking around alot talking to alot of girls and didn't appear to have a girlfriend.anyway she walked over to this guy at the bar (i was kind of standing back sussing it all out) and my honest judgement was that she said to him at the bar "my ex is here, i can't hook up with you tonight." or something along those lines. Anyway after they got a drink they wondered back to the dancefloor, more ignoring and no talking or even looking at me from her, then this dude was hanging around and they just kept eyeing eachother all the time, he would stare at her then stare at me and walk around for a bit and do it again.Like i said in the other post, i told her to just be honest with me if she wants to get with another guy and i'd never talk to her again because it would hurt me far too much and it this reason that she is afraid of losing me that she isn't being honest about this guy.I sent her a message shortly after they got back from the bar saying "look if you want me to leave i understand, just be honest with me, don't break my heart again by lieing to me" and she came over to me and said "all i want to do is dance with michelle, don't stress, his name is john, he is my ex's old room mate and his girlfriend is here."She was in the most ANAL mood then she randomly walked out, didn't even tell me she was leaving so i followed her, didn't say ONE word to me on the way to the taxi or on the way home.I seriously think i'm being played and lied to. I think she will go behind my back and screw this guy and not tell me just to keep me as a friend.I read her messages when she was asleep and there was nothing in her sent items on her phone or in her inbox about this guy.Just seems FAR to conincedental to not make sense...Hurt Taurus_____________Sun, moon, merc in taurusLibra rising23Well if you are worried and if you feel that there is something wrong, always follow your hunches and end it with her. It seems to me that she still has some interest in you. An aqu who doesn't like you will politely shut down and walk away. Based on what I have read, she's weighing pros and cons of the situation and trying to figure out who she wants to be with. Happy Dragon http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum10/HTML/002569.html hippichickTauroSorry she is yankin your bull tail so!!All and I do mean ALL of the Aquas I have known in my lifetime lie like they have been not tellin the truth since their first breaths out of the womb!!!And they do it SO, SO comfortably I wonder if it has something to do with their inherant uncomfortableness with emotions, after all to tell the truth on matters of the heart can be very uncomfortable and I think some Aquas would rather lie than go there!Personally, I do not see the point of not tellin the truth---If someone does not like what I have to say, then WHATEVER!!! I feel that the inability to tell the truth is a problem of the individual---have been lied to many times in my lifetime, by a whole lot of Aquas I might add!If the Cool, Airy chick is going to make it with an grounded, honest bull, she had just better start being honest with you. You could try telling this to her, but she probably does not and never will have a problem with lies and very likely sees it as 2nd nature..BlessingsTerrihippichick "Comfortable Liar"Broad, is this seaThe salt, enters the woundsMy take, on you is simpleSo heal, your fearTo heal, your fearTime, spent wading off shoreThe calm, before the stormMy take, from you is simpleSo heal, your fearTo heal, your fearYou're such a comfortable liarYou're such a comfortable liarYou're such a comfortable liarYou're such a comfortable liarYou're such a comfortable liarSo calmCause I said wrongYou comfortable liarYou comfortable liarYou comfortable liarYou comfortable liarLiar........Chevelle......... Happy Dragon.. probably isn't a taurean alive who doesn't have the potential for sexual jealousy and scorpionic suspicion .. that in itself has repercussions ..(post edit to add .. ) given it's the astro forum .. maybe have a think about transiting Saturn (25.Leo ) potentialy squaring those taurus placements .. wouldn't suprise me if it were squaring natal merc.hippichickHD.....Unless the Venus is in Gemini!! !!PiscesmoongirlHi Tauro, I'm a Taurus female, what degree is your sun at and what degree is her sun? Do you know if her mecury is in aqua too? I ask because of that transiting opposition of saturn and neptune. It's effecting my sun and it's been painful in the lessons of relationships for me (sun in the 7th house) so was wondering because that opposition would be affecting her sun and your sun too if the degrees are right. And I ask about her mercury in aqua because that would mean neptune is on it which would give more leaning to lying and being sneaky.Happy Dragon*HippiChik*.. you sayin' he wasn't ??? ( mr venus gemini bull person of male gender).. u sure he was alive 'n takin his vitamin C ???Happy DragonI fergot about nept and chiron being at square to the taurean sector .. so conjunctions and oppositions for aquarians .. .. whatever the case .. suspicion and mistrust will destroy any relationship ..hippichickHDHe never acted like it! Although a "miss you" blown down from a Rockey Mountain high to the nearly sea level planes on which my earthly existence dwells, may just do it!!Tauro--Good point HD made about sexual jealousy and the suspiciousness of your opposite sign..Aquas loathe both Your need and deserved right for honesty is one thing, but let her be who she will be or Ice Chick will blow her cool breezes elsewhere!!TerriSweet StarsDump the sl*t.------------------Gemini/Cancer cusp, Cancer Ascendant, Mercury Gemini, Taurus Moon *29, Venus Taurus, Mars Libravirgotaurustaurus1. Dump her, she sounds like she's playing with you and is enjoying it. Even if she's not, even that much would be enough to play with a guy's head. Also if you are feeling pretty uneasy around her because of how she is with other guys, and you can't trust her, it is better to let her go then, because you can't make her just change her ways, especially since you 2 are ex's and not actually together anymore. She sounds like she's probably not going to be honest about other guys as much as you'd like.2. Just for future reference: no matter how much you suspect someone having something with another guy, and right now you are actually in the WRONG here since you two are ex's of each other, it will ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS be extremely wrong for you to go behind someone's back and go through their stuff, like THEIR email or THEIR phone. I ohpe this girl, for YOUR sake, does not have strong Taurus herself or some Scorpio cuz if she were to find out you are snooping through her stuff, oh boy...you'd be in HUGE trouble. THat is wrong, it is possessive, jealous, and controlling behavior. It is not respecting her space or her belongings. hippichickVirgotaurustaurus--- BornUnderDioscuriI am going to agree with the few posts above me. Taurus Venus in 8th house here and my bf is an Aqua rising and that attitude ****** me off..the flirtation has to stop and all that. But i want to ask you something, if you are still in a monogamous relationship why is she your ex? If she wants to just ditch the label its for her own self to not feel as if shes the bad guy. If she wants to be with you then she should be your gf and not flirt with other guys. I can see you still have strng feelings for her and this is a very tough situation but you have to decide whether it is more pain to be there strung along like that or to be without her. Thats what it ultimately comes down to I think. But i definately understand, the Aqua nature makes them a bit detached. Whats her other placements? libraschoice7 You deserve better, you sound so sweet and sensitive. The right woman will eventually come around. I am sorry that happened to you, I've had my share of hurt, so I know. A big HUG and lots of good wishes for you ------------------Sun in LibraMoon in CancerJupiter in CancerVenus in VirgoMars in CancerAscendant in CancerI "FEEL" therefor I amSweet StarsI can imagine you feel hurt and it does usually take Bulls some time to move on but you deserve better. Bulls feel deeply and it sucks being betrayed!------------------Gemini/Cancer cusp, Cancer Ascendant, Mercury Gemini, Taurus Moon *29, Venus Taurus, Mars LibraTauroHey all,Yeah most of what you all said feels true...I lost complete trust for her when 2 days after broke up she said to her friend "help me find a nice guy." But i have a tendency to hang on to a dying hope..but last weekend really just made me realise what i was dealing with. The next day, i sent her an email explaining how i feel and that i've deleted all her contact details and for her not to contact me. Every single one of my friends who has met her has said that i deserve far better and that she treats me like sh*t. Anyway, could anyone tell me if there are any sly, untrustworthy placements in her chart?Feeling better day by day and my friends have really helped me get through this crap!T (female)born on 6 Feb 1982 local time 10:15 amin Brisbane, AUSTL U.T. 00:15153e02, 27s28 sid. time 19:30:23Planetary positionsplanet sign degree motionSun Aquarius 16°52'44 in house 10 directMoon Cancer 15°43'51 in house 3 directMercury Aquarius 6°23'29 in house 10 retrogradeVenus Capricorn 23°50'46 in house 10 retrogradeMars Libra 17°55'15 end of house 6 directJupiter Scorpio 9°48'40 in house 7 directSaturn Libra 22°13'03 in house 7 stationary (R)Uranus Sagittarius 4°10'21 in house 8 directNeptune Sagittarius 26°19'18 in house 9 directPluto Libra 26°54'51 in house 7 retrogradeTrue Node Cancer 22°22'06 in house 4 directPlanets at the end of a house are interpreted in the next house.House positions (Placidus)Ascendant Aries 20°01'532nd House Taurus 18°47'453rd House Gemini 19°16'59Imum Coeli Cancer 20°53'525th House Leo 22°43'066th House Virgo 22°59'14Descendant Libra 20°01'538th House Scorpio 18°47'459th House Sagittarius 19°16'59Medium Coeli Capricorn 20°53'5211th House Aquarius 22°43'0612th House Pisces 22°59'14Major aspectsSun Quincunx Moon 1°09Sun Trine Mars 1°03Sun Square Jupiter 7°04Sun Trine Saturn 5°20Sun Sextile Ascendant 3°09Moon Square Mars 2°11Moon Trine Jupiter 5°55Moon Square Saturn 6°29Moon Square Ascendant 4°18Mercury Square Jupiter 3°25Mercury Sextile Uranus 2°13Venus Square Mars 5°56Venus Square Saturn 1°38Venus Square Pluto 3°04Venus Square Ascendant 3°49Mars Conjunction Saturn 4°18Mars Opposition Ascendant 2°07Saturn Sextile Neptune 4°06Saturn Conjunction Pluto 4°42Saturn Opposition Ascendant 2°11Neptune Sextile Pluto 0°36Numbers indicate orb (deviation from the exact aspect angle).TauroHere are my placements..._________Planetary positionsplanet sign degree motionSun Taurus 28°08'03 in house 8 directMoon Taurus 20°07'56 in house 8 directMercury Taurus 8°04'01 in house 7 directVenus Aries 15°20'23 in house 7 directMars Gemini 15°40'28 in house 9 directJupiter Aquarius 16°31'24 in house 5 directSaturn Scorpio 24°34'30 in house 2 retrogradeUranus Sagittarius 16°44'14 in house 3 retrogradeNeptune Capricorn 3°07'32 in house 4 retrogradePluto Scorpio 2°40'03 in house 1 retrogradeTrue Node Taurus 18°14'19 in house 8 retrogradeHouse positions (Placidus)Ascendant Libra 3°57'252nd House Scorpio 10°34'073rd House Sagittarius 8°31'59Imum Coeli Capricorn 2°34'535th House Capricorn 26°58'436th House Aquarius 26°01'35Descendant Aries 3°57'258th House Taurus 10°34'079th House Gemini 8°31'59Medium Coeli Cancer 2°34'5311th House Cancer 26°58'4312th House Leo 26°01'35Major aspectsSun Opposition Saturn 3°34Sun Trine Ascendant 5°49Moon Square Jupiter 3°37Moon Opposition Saturn 4°27Mercury Trine Neptune 4°56Mercury Opposition Pluto 5°24Venus Sextile Mars 0°20Venus Sextile Jupiter 1°11Venus Trine Uranus 1°24Mars Trine Jupiter 0°51Mars Opposition Uranus 1°04Jupiter Sextile Uranus 0°13Neptune Sextile Pluto 0°27Neptune Square Ascendant 0°5023Before this turns into an Aqua bashing post as it already has seemed to, I will say that I have quite a few similar placements as her (I'm Aqu 10th sun/merc girl with Aries rising). I understand why you were attracted to her and maybe why she was attracted to you but I can't understand how an Aqu girl ended up with a Taurean to start off with. If she is anything like me (which I suspect she is), she needs a lot of freedom, intellectual stimulation, independence and certainly would not like being told what to do. She has both a rather afflicted moon and venus which would give her even more independence I'd think and some volatility, maybe even commitment difficulties. I think its more a matter of the fact that you two in the end just don't suit each other. However, push comes to shove, she'd use her cunning, outwit you and dominate you, which I have used myself to defend myself. A lot of it might be button pushing in her case (maybe venus squ pluto in her case). I really don't know the full facts of the story. Don't think that I am giving her the benefit of the doubt, but is there anything that you see as incompatible between you as a couple? Don't think that I am blaming you for this though, I'd just like to know both sides of the story. You need someone much more earthy maybe, someone who you can be close to and build a foundation with. In your situation, based on what you said, it's time to walk away and cut ties. sue gShe probably isnt right for you.....find another who will love you and treat you with the tenderness and respect you deserve... libraschoice7 Watch when you least expect it love will come around...Water with earth is what might be more compatible for you.------------------Sun in LibraMoon in CancerJupiter in CancerVenus in VirgoMars in CancerAscendant in CancerI "FEEL" therefor I am
massive weekend for me, i'll fill you in.
Went out to a club with my aqua ex girlfriend and her friend, as i said in my previous post, we are still kinda together but i seriously think i'm being played now.
Because i don't trust her and she is sly, i read her msn convo between her friend about a week ago and she wanted her to goto this club to meet this other guy called tom and she said she showed the guy a photo of her on her phone and that he was a bit of ladies man and that all the girls seem to be interested in her.
Anyway, we rocked up at this club, me, my ex and her friend. then we met up with her friend who she spoke to on msn. we went to the dancefloor and there was this guy, i'm not sure if it was tom but he was walking around alot talking to alot of girls and didn't appear to have a girlfriend.
anyway she walked over to this guy at the bar (i was kind of standing back sussing it all out) and my honest judgement was that she said to him at the bar "my ex is here, i can't hook up with you tonight." or something along those lines. Anyway after they got a drink they wondered back to the dancefloor, more ignoring and no talking or even looking at me from her, then this dude was hanging around and they just kept eyeing eachother all the time, he would stare at her then stare at me and walk around for a bit and do it again.
Like i said in the other post, i told her to just be honest with me if she wants to get with another guy and i'd never talk to her again because it would hurt me far too much and it this reason that she is afraid of losing me that she isn't being honest about this guy.
I sent her a message shortly after they got back from the bar saying "look if you want me to leave i understand, just be honest with me, don't break my heart again by lieing to me" and she came over to me and said "all i want to do is dance with michelle, don't stress, his name is john, he is my ex's old room mate and his girlfriend is here."
She was in the most ANAL mood then she randomly walked out, didn't even tell me she was leaving so i followed her, didn't say ONE word to me on the way to the taxi or on the way home.
I seriously think i'm being played and lied to. I think she will go behind my back and screw this guy and not tell me just to keep me as a friend.
I read her messages when she was asleep and there was nothing in her sent items on her phone or in her inbox about this guy.
Just seems FAR to conincedental to not make sense...
Hurt Taurus_____________
Sun, moon, merc in taurusLibra rising
It seems to me that she still has some interest in you. An aqu who doesn't like you will politely shut down and walk away. Based on what I have read, she's weighing pros and cons of the situation and trying to figure out who she wants to be with.
Sorry she is yankin your bull tail so!!
All and I do mean ALL of the Aquas I have known in my lifetime lie like they have been not tellin the truth since their first breaths out of the womb!!!
And they do it SO, SO comfortably I wonder if it has something to do with their inherant uncomfortableness with emotions, after all to tell the truth on matters of the heart can be very uncomfortable and I think some Aquas would rather lie than go there!
Personally, I do not see the point of not tellin the truth---If someone does not like what I have to say, then WHATEVER!!! I feel that the inability to tell the truth is a problem of the individual---have been lied to many times in my lifetime, by a whole lot of Aquas I might add!
If the Cool, Airy chick is going to make it with an grounded, honest bull, she had just better start being honest with you. You could try telling this to her, but she probably does not and never will have a problem with lies and very likely sees it as 2nd nature..
Blessings
Terri
Broad, is this seaThe salt, enters the woundsMy take, on you is simpleSo heal, your fearTo heal, your fearTime, spent wading off shoreThe calm, before the stormMy take, from you is simpleSo heal, your fearTo heal, your fearYou're such a comfortable liarYou're such a comfortable liarYou're such a comfortable liarYou're such a comfortable liarYou're such a comfortable liarSo calmCause I said wrongYou comfortable liarYou comfortable liarYou comfortable liarYou comfortable liarLiar
........Chevelle.........
Unless the Venus is in Gemini!! !!
.. you sayin' he wasn't ??? ( mr venus gemini bull person of male gender).. u sure he was alive 'n takin his vitamin C ???
He never acted like it! Although a "miss you" blown down from a Rockey Mountain high to the nearly sea level planes on which my earthly existence dwells, may just do it!!
Tauro--
Good point HD made about sexual jealousy and the suspiciousness of your opposite sign..Aquas loathe both
Your need and deserved right for honesty is one thing, but let her be who she will be or Ice Chick will blow her cool breezes elsewhere!!
------------------Gemini/Cancer cusp, Cancer Ascendant, Mercury Gemini, Taurus Moon *29, Venus Taurus, Mars Libra
2. Just for future reference: no matter how much you suspect someone having something with another guy, and right now you are actually in the WRONG here since you two are ex's of each other, it will ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS be extremely wrong for you to go behind someone's back and go through their stuff, like THEIR email or THEIR phone. I ohpe this girl, for YOUR sake, does not have strong Taurus herself or some Scorpio cuz if she were to find out you are snooping through her stuff, oh boy...you'd be in HUGE trouble. THat is wrong, it is possessive, jealous, and controlling behavior. It is not respecting her space or her belongings.
------------------Sun in LibraMoon in CancerJupiter in CancerVenus in VirgoMars in CancerAscendant in Cancer
I "FEEL" therefor I am
Yeah most of what you all said feels true...I lost complete trust for her when 2 days after broke up she said to her friend "help me find a nice guy." But i have a tendency to hang on to a dying hope..but last weekend really just made me realise what i was dealing with. The next day, i sent her an email explaining how i feel and that i've deleted all her contact details and for her not to contact me. Every single one of my friends who has met her has said that i deserve far better and that she treats me like sh*t. Anyway, could anyone tell me if there are any sly, untrustworthy placements in her chart?
Feeling better day by day and my friends have really helped me get through this crap!
T (female)born on 6 Feb 1982 local time 10:15 amin Brisbane, AUSTL U.T. 00:15153e02, 27s28 sid. time 19:30:23
Planetary positionsplanet sign degree motionSun Aquarius 16°52'44 in house 10 directMoon Cancer 15°43'51 in house 3 directMercury Aquarius 6°23'29 in house 10 retrogradeVenus Capricorn 23°50'46 in house 10 retrogradeMars Libra 17°55'15 end of house 6 directJupiter Scorpio 9°48'40 in house 7 directSaturn Libra 22°13'03 in house 7 stationary (R)Uranus Sagittarius 4°10'21 in house 8 directNeptune Sagittarius 26°19'18 in house 9 directPluto Libra 26°54'51 in house 7 retrogradeTrue Node Cancer 22°22'06 in house 4 directPlanets at the end of a house are interpreted in the next house.
House positions (Placidus)Ascendant Aries 20°01'532nd House Taurus 18°47'453rd House Gemini 19°16'59Imum Coeli Cancer 20°53'525th House Leo 22°43'066th House Virgo 22°59'14Descendant Libra 20°01'538th House Scorpio 18°47'459th House Sagittarius 19°16'59Medium Coeli Capricorn 20°53'5211th House Aquarius 22°43'0612th House Pisces 22°59'14
Major aspectsSun Quincunx Moon 1°09Sun Trine Mars 1°03Sun Square Jupiter 7°04Sun Trine Saturn 5°20Sun Sextile Ascendant 3°09Moon Square Mars 2°11Moon Trine Jupiter 5°55Moon Square Saturn 6°29Moon Square Ascendant 4°18Mercury Square Jupiter 3°25Mercury Sextile Uranus 2°13Venus Square Mars 5°56Venus Square Saturn 1°38Venus Square Pluto 3°04Venus Square Ascendant 3°49Mars Conjunction Saturn 4°18Mars Opposition Ascendant 2°07Saturn Sextile Neptune 4°06Saturn Conjunction Pluto 4°42Saturn Opposition Ascendant 2°11Neptune Sextile Pluto 0°36Numbers indicate orb (deviation from the exact aspect angle).
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Planetary positionsplanet sign degree motionSun Taurus 28°08'03 in house 8 directMoon Taurus 20°07'56 in house 8 directMercury Taurus 8°04'01 in house 7 directVenus Aries 15°20'23 in house 7 directMars Gemini 15°40'28 in house 9 directJupiter Aquarius 16°31'24 in house 5 directSaturn Scorpio 24°34'30 in house 2 retrogradeUranus Sagittarius 16°44'14 in house 3 retrogradeNeptune Capricorn 3°07'32 in house 4 retrogradePluto Scorpio 2°40'03 in house 1 retrogradeTrue Node Taurus 18°14'19 in house 8 retrograde
House positions (Placidus)Ascendant Libra 3°57'252nd House Scorpio 10°34'073rd House Sagittarius 8°31'59Imum Coeli Capricorn 2°34'535th House Capricorn 26°58'436th House Aquarius 26°01'35Descendant Aries 3°57'258th House Taurus 10°34'079th House Gemini 8°31'59Medium Coeli Cancer 2°34'5311th House Cancer 26°58'4312th House Leo 26°01'35
Major aspectsSun Opposition Saturn 3°34Sun Trine Ascendant 5°49Moon Square Jupiter 3°37Moon Opposition Saturn 4°27Mercury Trine Neptune 4°56Mercury Opposition Pluto 5°24Venus Sextile Mars 0°20Venus Sextile Jupiter 1°11Venus Trine Uranus 1°24Mars Trine Jupiter 0°51Mars Opposition Uranus 1°04Jupiter Sextile Uranus 0°13Neptune Sextile Pluto 0°27Neptune Square Ascendant 0°50
I understand why you were attracted to her and maybe why she was attracted to you but I can't understand how an Aqu girl ended up with a Taurean to start off with.
If she is anything like me (which I suspect she is), she needs a lot of freedom, intellectual stimulation, independence and certainly would not like being told what to do. She has both a rather afflicted moon and venus which would give her even more independence I'd think and some volatility, maybe even commitment difficulties.
I think its more a matter of the fact that you two in the end just don't suit each other. However, push comes to shove, she'd use her cunning, outwit you and dominate you, which I have used myself to defend myself. A lot of it might be button pushing in her case (maybe venus squ pluto in her case).
I really don't know the full facts of the story. Don't think that I am giving her the benefit of the doubt, but is there anything that you see as incompatible between you as a couple? Don't think that I am blaming you for this though, I'd just like to know both sides of the story.
You need someone much more earthy maybe, someone who you can be close to and build a foundation with. In your situation, based on what you said, it's time to walk away and cut ties.
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