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T O P I C R E V I E WnowmentI was just curious as to the views of others on this issue of the 13th sign I have seen this referred to as Ophiuchus, the sign of the Serpent Bearer, is the 10th sign of the Real Solar Zodiac What some refer to as Real and Conventional Pisces 12-Mar to 18-Apr 19-Feb to 20-Mar Aries 19-Apr to 13-May 21-Mar to 19-Apr Taurus 14-May to 19-Jun 20-Apr to 20-May Gemini 20-Jun to 20-Jul 21-May to 20-Jun Cancer 21-Jul to 9-Aug 21-Jun to 22-Jul Leo 10-Aug to 15-Sep 23-Jul to 22-Aug Virgo 16-Sep to 30-Oct 23-Aug to 22-Sep Libra 31-Oct to 22-Nov 23-Sep to the 22-Oct Scorpius 23-Nov to 29-Nov 23-Oct to 21-Nov Ophiuchus 30-Nov to the 17-Dec Sagittarius 18-Dec to 18-Jan 22-Nov 21-Dec Capricornus 19-Jan to 15-Feb 22-Dec 19-Jan Aquarius 16-Feb to 11-Mar 20-Jan to 18-Feb Any ideas and opinions on this topic?23Yes I've heard of the 13th sign as well, except its called Arachnae or something. Same time period as the times you listed in your post. Makes me a Capricorn then...plutoprincessWell...I've also heard of it but I didn't think it was important in astrology.That calculaiton made me an aquarius, but my character is way too Piscean to doubt my current sign ...augentierthat would make me a Sag, which i could see..but my moon & merc are Sag so i already hve that influence.------------------Capricorn sun / Scorpio rising / Sagittarius moonMercury:: SagittariusVenus::ScorpioMars::PiscesAcousticGodI don't like it. Throws off the symetry of astrology.CoralFrequencyyay another Opiuchus thread!LOLOpiuchus doesn't like peanuts. That's all I know about it. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/013339.html ballerinaBump...------------------All my love, with all my Heartlotusheartone/EmeraldopalRandallBump!RandallBump!RandallBump!Capguy75If you took a clock and shifted the numbers about and added "13" to where the hands pointed at midday, would that make it "13 'o' clock"?Of course not. I see the zodiac the same way. I heard it suggested once that the constellations might been named after the zodiac signs. Probably not true, but given Aries looks more like "the line" than "the ram", it wouldn't surprise me either. ballerinaThink of military time...13 is 114 is 215 is 3There is no endThere is no beginning...------------------All my love, with all my Heartlotusheartone/EmeraldopalRandallBump!ParallelToucanThose dates you posted are rather confusing. I'm also going to take into consideration that I've had a long day so I really don't feel like figuring out a puzzle since I've been playing chess for the past few hours also.With all of this taken into consideration though, I really couldn't see myself as a Taurus, because adaptability is one of my main traits as a person. This coincides with my Gemini Sun and other mutable signs as well (obviously). The whole reason why I even got into astrology in the first place is because my friend convinced me that I fit the Gemini bill undoubtedly. Then I looked at my birth chart, and everything fits perfectly. I'm just saying that I couldn't really see it any other way and definitely not trying to play Devil's advocate either, just in case anyone is wondering that. I used to break pool sticks, slam doors, punch holes in the wall/doors, start fights with kids on the playground, break chairs, and damn near break anything I could get my hands on when I was angry when I was young. Just saying that this stuff definitely fits the bill as well when I found out that I had my Moon and Mars both in Aries. It was like a light bulb went off in my head when I actually took the time to research astrology and really understand astrological charts for that matter. I'm going to say a thumbs down for me as far as believing in any other type of astrology. No offense.The only real Taurus placement that I have within my chart is Venus in Taurus. Other than that, I would say that I'm closer to Cancer than I am to Taurus. The "Taurus" in me I feel definitely has its presence felt if that makes sense, but not enough to where I'm a Taurus Sun. Especially when it comes to romantic affairs, I'm as stubborn as hell when it comes to love. I know a lot of Taurus's and I'm definitely different than them as far as my core personality traits though as far as dealing with "Sun" signs. Even though people do have inherent very strong placements/planets within their charts, the Sun sign will always carry out the most profound personality traits first in my opinion. I'm more Cardinal influenced than anything, then fixed, and then mutable is last. The fact that I'm a Gemini is definitely objectively prominent though. This is apparent to me especially when I compare myself to other Geminis, and all of us easily share the basic "core" personality traits/characteristics. I've found that in my many years of testing personalities or comparing them that an Aries is an Aries, a Taurus is a Taurus, Gemini is a Gemini... etc..... you could also get 3 of the same sign in a room and I can almost guarantee you that all 3 of them will have very similar personalities. Same goes for all the rest too. That's my take on it at least.ParallelToucan quote:Originally posted by AcousticGod:I don't like it. Throws off the symetry of astrology. quote:Originally posted by plutoprincess:Well...I've also heard of it but I didn't think it was important in astrology.That calculaiton made me an aquarius, but my character is way too Piscean to doubt my current sign ...LolMoonMysticVery deep. http://ascensionglossary.com/index.php/Ophiuchus (Recently I've seen my Reiki/chiron potentials. This ascending might help me understand my purpose now)I'd be interested in seeing the whole chart, not just the Sun signs of those withOphiuchus energy. (Speaking in terms of tropical) I'd be a 2nd Decan rising Ophiuchus. I haven't read much on him, this snake being (persona) in myth. Usually snakes relate with wisdom. Anyone have any information on this sign so far? The people thinking it may not be abalanced wheel (clock), maybe it could be like the nodes, the head and tail. Idk obv I'm not the one who would achieve the remedy. I do think "if" it is to be considered by those that decide the actual 'rules' our stars align with , we might even learn they have yet another (currently unknown) counterpart (opposite sign) to Ophiuchus. I'm sure there's plenty we don't yet know and discoveries are sure to spark our attention once there's more to Ophiuchus within our celestial stories. RandallBump!RandallBump!
I have seen this referred to as Ophiuchus, the sign of the Serpent Bearer, is the 10th sign of the Real Solar Zodiac
What some refer to as
Real and Conventional
Pisces 12-Mar to 18-Apr 19-Feb to 20-Mar Aries 19-Apr to 13-May 21-Mar to 19-Apr Taurus 14-May to 19-Jun 20-Apr to 20-May Gemini 20-Jun to 20-Jul 21-May to 20-Jun Cancer 21-Jul to 9-Aug 21-Jun to 22-Jul Leo 10-Aug to 15-Sep 23-Jul to 22-Aug Virgo 16-Sep to 30-Oct 23-Aug to 22-Sep Libra 31-Oct to 22-Nov 23-Sep to the 22-Oct Scorpius 23-Nov to 29-Nov 23-Oct to 21-Nov Ophiuchus 30-Nov to the 17-Dec Sagittarius 18-Dec to 18-Jan 22-Nov 21-Dec Capricornus 19-Jan to 15-Feb 22-Dec 19-Jan Aquarius 16-Feb to 11-Mar 20-Jan to 18-Feb
Any ideas and opinions on this topic?
Makes me a Capricorn then...
------------------Capricorn sun / Scorpio rising / Sagittarius moon
Mercury:: SagittariusVenus::ScorpioMars::Pisces
LOL
Opiuchus doesn't like peanuts. That's all I know about it. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/013339.html
------------------All my love, with all my Heartlotusheartone/Emeraldopal
Of course not. I see the zodiac the same way.
I heard it suggested once that the constellations might been named after the zodiac signs. Probably not true, but given Aries looks more like "the line" than "the ram", it wouldn't surprise me either.
13 is 114 is 215 is 3
There is no endThere is no beginning...
With all of this taken into consideration though, I really couldn't see myself as a Taurus, because adaptability is one of my main traits as a person. This coincides with my Gemini Sun and other mutable signs as well (obviously). The whole reason why I even got into astrology in the first place is because my friend convinced me that I fit the Gemini bill undoubtedly. Then I looked at my birth chart, and everything fits perfectly. I'm just saying that I couldn't really see it any other way and definitely not trying to play Devil's advocate either, just in case anyone is wondering that. I used to break pool sticks, slam doors, punch holes in the wall/doors, start fights with kids on the playground, break chairs, and damn near break anything I could get my hands on when I was angry when I was young. Just saying that this stuff definitely fits the bill as well when I found out that I had my Moon and Mars both in Aries. It was like a light bulb went off in my head when I actually took the time to research astrology and really understand astrological charts for that matter. I'm going to say a thumbs down for me as far as believing in any other type of astrology. No offense.
The only real Taurus placement that I have within my chart is Venus in Taurus. Other than that, I would say that I'm closer to Cancer than I am to Taurus. The "Taurus" in me I feel definitely has its presence felt if that makes sense, but not enough to where I'm a Taurus Sun. Especially when it comes to romantic affairs, I'm as stubborn as hell when it comes to love. I know a lot of Taurus's and I'm definitely different than them as far as my core personality traits though as far as dealing with "Sun" signs. Even though people do have inherent very strong placements/planets within their charts, the Sun sign will always carry out the most profound personality traits first in my opinion. I'm more Cardinal influenced than anything, then fixed, and then mutable is last. The fact that I'm a Gemini is definitely objectively prominent though. This is apparent to me especially when I compare myself to other Geminis, and all of us easily share the basic "core" personality traits/characteristics. I've found that in my many years of testing personalities or comparing them that an Aries is an Aries, a Taurus is a Taurus, Gemini is a Gemini... etc..... you could also get 3 of the same sign in a room and I can almost guarantee you that all 3 of them will have very similar personalities. Same goes for all the rest too. That's my take on it at least.
quote:Originally posted by AcousticGod:I don't like it. Throws off the symetry of astrology.
quote:Originally posted by plutoprincess:Well...I've also heard of it but I didn't think it was important in astrology.That calculaiton made me an aquarius, but my character is way too Piscean to doubt my current sign ...
Lol
(Recently I've seen my Reiki/chiron potentials. This ascending might help me understand my purpose now)
I'd be interested in seeing the whole chart, not just the Sun signs of those withOphiuchus energy. (Speaking in terms of tropical) I'd be a 2nd Decan rising Ophiuchus. I haven't read much on him, this snake being (persona) in myth. Usually snakes relate with wisdom. Anyone have any information on this sign so far?
The people thinking it may not be abalanced wheel (clock), maybe it could be like the nodes, the head and tail. Idk obv I'm not the one who would achieve the remedy. I do think "if" it is to be considered by those that decide the actual 'rules' our stars align with , we might even learn they have yet another (currently unknown) counterpart (opposite sign) to Ophiuchus. I'm sure there's plenty we don't yet know and discoveries are sure to spark our attention once there's more to Ophiuchus within our celestial stories.
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