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socialgraffiti | I've been wondering about the significance of le chart ruler- yes, it's a significant part of your chart, especially the house in which it resides, but what about the aspects that it makes? So far, the only website I've been able to find that touches on chart ruler aspects is: http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/RULER.html i.e. let's say you have leo asc and an empty 1st house, and your sun is conj uranus in the 2nd house sag. Here the characteristics of uranus aspecting your sun would apply to you (if there aren't any other factors that would change this), but what about the fact that uranus is aspecting your chart ruler? To answer the above quesion, I'm assuming is that you'd have uranian topics as a dominant life theme, just like how the house your sun resides in would show what your life would be focused on (values, materials, etc). Since no planets are in the 1st, would that mean that the aspects to the chart ruler would be represented more easily- meaning would it affect how the ascendant is represented (in terms of appearance and mannerisms)? OR would the sign the chart ruler is in take precedence? Tell me what you think |
somethingexcellent | My chart ruler is the Sun, and its in a small, tight stellium with NN and IC...hmm... |
StarlightSmileSupreme | Mine is Venus, it makes a lot of weak sextiles and a square but I kinda wish my chart ruler were Mercury or Jupiter. Those are much better aspected. Sag with Virgo MC would work. Then I'd have all kinds of greatness. |
Doux Rêve | Both. BUT the chart ruler is extra important, and the sign & house it's in and the aspects it makes are super duper important, as well. At least from what I've observed. My chart ruler only conjunct my Sun and yes, I like attention and need recognition (could be a 5H Moon thing though) and overall seem to be confident (even if I'm not). That's the effect of the Sun, even if it's buried in the 6H and in a dark sign like Scorpio. ETA: another thought: my Sun rules my 5H so the 5H is again emphasized. ASC + 5H/Sun theme.
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socialgraffiti | quote: Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme: Mine is Venus, it makes a lot of weak sextiles and a square but I kinda wish my chart ruler were Mercury or Jupiter. Those are much better aspected. Sag with Virgo MC would work. Then I'd have all kinds of greatness.
Mine is the moon- it conjuncts jupiter, uranus, and neptune. Do you have planets in your 1st then?
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Ellynlvx | When Saturn is in the Tenth, does it become the Chart Ruler? Or is it always the Ruler of the Ascendant? I'm self-taught, so these things escape me. |
Doux Rêve | I would say the chart ruler is always the ruler of the ASC, Ellyn. Kudos for being self-taught!
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Ellynlvx | Thank You, Doux. |
Canadiangirl | So, the chart ruler is whatever sign your ascendant is in? Why? |
socialgraffiti | quote: Originally posted by Doux Rêve: Both.BUT the chart ruler is extra important, and the sign & house it's in and the aspects it makes are super duper important, as well. At least from what I've observed. My chart ruler only conjunct my Sun and yes, I like attention and need recognition (could be a 5H Moon thing though) and overall seem to be confident (even if I'm not). That's the effect of the Sun, even if it's buried in the 6H and in a dark sign like Scorpio. ETA: another thought: my Sun rules my 5H so the 5H is again emphasized. ASC + 5H/Sun theme.
Oh hey there, fellow scorp here Yep, that matches what I've found- the importance part that is- but I'm still trying to figure out how it plays out. Is it like an NN aspect? I'm thinkin- do you feel/look sort of like a leo asc, or is it just the focus on the ego that matches? |
I'm so cappy | Chart ruler is the planet that rules the sign your AC is in. My ruler is my mutable singleton and it's also in detriment so it's kinda complicated. I only have one major, easy, not tight aspect to it (sextile) which has a very subtle influence. I feel the sign my ruler is in a lot but it's also my IC. ------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. |
Doux Rêve | You're welcome, Ellyn. -
Chart ruler: the planet that rules the sign of your ASC. Ex: Virgo ASC - Virgo is ruled by Mercury, so your chart ruler (or ASC ruler) is Mercury.
It's what defines your personality... the basic, most important component that sets the whole "map" of the chart - the houses, which represent different areas of life. Without the ASC, you have no houses, thus no "map", no clear definition of where the energies go and where they are expressed. |
ail221 | I agree with Doux its both. My chart ruler is Venus and my Venus is in the 2nd house and opposes Uranus. Yes my life is focus on material security, beauty and the arts. |
VenusDiSirius | Edit : Nvm, the post disappeared. |
Ellynlvx | Don't feel bad, Cappy; mine is not the happiest of campers either... |
socialgraffiti | quote: Originally posted by I'm so cappy: Chart ruler is the planet that rules the sign your AC is in.My ruler is my mutable singleton and it's also in detriment so it's kinda complicated. I only have one major, easy, not tight aspect to it (sextile) which has a very subtle influence. I feel the sign my ruler is in a lot but it's also my IC.
I'm gonna guess... is your chart ruler mercury? eh, I find detriment and fall positions to be underrated. People tend to make big deals out of them, like "oh no," but planets in those positions isn't that bad, just different.
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PlutoFish | Draconic Chart ruler = Mars Tropical Chart ruler = PlutoI don't think the chart ruler should be known as the ascendant sign, this isn't always right. Pluto is the strongesst influence in me only after my Tropical Cap Moon, 1st House Ophiuchus Sun, Dr Gemini Moon & Dr Aries Sun. Mars or Saturn i would say are my chart rulers ... why should the energy you give off be what rules you? (thats all the ascendant is) and not what is personal to you ? (Sun/Moon) |
Nine | Chart ruler is Mercury at 0 Cancer (solstice point) - in the 10th house. The closest aspect is a 7 degree sextile from Saturn. quote: My chart ruler only conjunct my Sun and yes, I like attention and need recognition (could be a 5H Moon thing though) and overall seem to be confident (even if I'm not). That's the effect of the Sun, even if it's buried in the 6H and in a dark sign like Scorpio.
I've been looking for something like this. So, Sun in aspect to a ruling planet gives confidence, and pride. Eg. 7HR in aspect Sun gives a partner you can be proud of, and vice versa. |
Mercurian Intellect | My chart ruler is the Sun. It's in Virgo in the 2nd House and is highly aspected. Sun square Moon Sun conjunct Venus Sun conjunct Chiron Sun opposite Saturn Sun trine Uranus Sun trine Neptune Sun sextile Pluto Sun square Lilith Sun square Pallas Sun sesqisquare MC Sun conjunct Pholus Sun sextile Nessus Sun square Galactic-Center Sun quindecile Spica Sun square Capella Sun square Arcturus Sun sextile Procyon Sun sextile Pollux Sun square Betelgeuse (all 7-orbs and lower) Note: I added only the "Additional objects" on Astro.com, no other asteroids or fixed stars. Just the ones found in that drop-down box. |
Mercurian Intellect | quote: Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme: Mine is Venus, it makes a lot of weak sextiles and a square but I kinda wish my chart ruler were Mercury or Jupiter. Those are much better aspected. Sag with Virgo MC would work. Then I'd have all kinds of greatness.
Sagittarius ASC with Virgo MC does sound pretty cool
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charlie | Merc. I am so mutably Merc that I despise the same trait in others. I have stated my dislike for Virgo and Gem Moons a lot but in all fact i dislike the traits in me. |
Pure | My chart ruler is Jupiter in Capricorn. It's so terribly aspected, I weep for it. It's in the 2nd house and it squares Mercury and Saturn. It's only saving grace is a trine from Venus. I definitely notice the traits in myself and I seem to attract a lot of Capricorns as friends. |
Mercurian Intellect | quote: Originally posted by charlie: Merc. I am so mutably Merc that I despise the same trait in others. I have stated my dislike for Virgo and Gem Moons a lot but in all fact i dislike the traits in me.
Why? So just the Moon signs of them? |
aquaguy91 | My chart ruler is Uranus in Capricorn and its in the 11th house conjunct Neptune and mercury, it also Trines my moon. I'm full of Aquarian/Uranian energy. |