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posted November 26, 2013 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for socialgraffiti     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been wondering about the significance of le chart ruler- yes, it's a significant part of your chart, especially the house in which it resides, but what about the aspects that it makes?

So far, the only website I've been able to find that touches on chart ruler aspects is: http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/RULER.html

i.e. let's say you have leo asc and an empty 1st house, and your sun is conj uranus in the 2nd house sag. Here the characteristics of uranus aspecting your sun would apply to you (if there aren't any other factors that would change this), but what about the fact that uranus is aspecting your chart ruler?

To answer the above quesion, I'm assuming is that you'd have uranian topics as a dominant life theme, just like how the house your sun resides in would show what your life would be focused on (values, materials, etc). Since no planets are in the 1st, would that mean that the aspects to the chart ruler would be represented more easily- meaning would it affect how the ascendant is represented (in terms of appearance and mannerisms)?

OR would the sign the chart ruler is in take precedence?

Tell me what you think

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somethingexcellent
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posted November 26, 2013 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My chart ruler is the Sun, and its in a small, tight stellium with NN and IC...hmm...

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posted November 26, 2013 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mine is Venus, it makes a lot of weak sextiles and a square but I kinda wish my chart ruler were Mercury or Jupiter. Those are much better aspected. Sag with Virgo MC would work. Then I'd have all kinds of greatness.

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posted November 26, 2013 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Both.

BUT the chart ruler is extra important, and the sign & house it's in and the aspects it makes are super duper important, as well.
At least from what I've observed.

My chart ruler only conjunct my Sun and yes, I like attention and need recognition (could be a 5H Moon thing though) and overall seem to be confident (even if I'm not). That's the effect of the Sun, even if it's buried in the 6H and in a dark sign like Scorpio.


ETA: another thought: my Sun rules my 5H so the 5H is again emphasized. ASC + 5H/Sun theme.

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posted November 26, 2013 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for socialgraffiti     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Mine is Venus, it makes a lot of weak sextiles and a square but I kinda wish my chart ruler were Mercury or Jupiter. Those are much better aspected. Sag with Virgo MC would work. Then I'd have all kinds of greatness.

Mine is the moon- it conjuncts jupiter, uranus, and neptune.

Do you have planets in your 1st then?

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Ellynlvx
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posted November 26, 2013 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When Saturn is in the Tenth, does it become the Chart Ruler?

Or is it always the Ruler of the Ascendant?

I'm self-taught, so these things escape me.

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Doux Rêve
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posted November 26, 2013 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would say the chart ruler is always the ruler of the ASC, Ellyn.


Kudos for being self-taught!

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Ellynlvx
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posted November 26, 2013 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank You, Doux.

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Canadiangirl
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posted November 26, 2013 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Canadiangirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, the chart ruler is whatever sign your ascendant is in? Why?

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posted November 26, 2013 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for socialgraffiti     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Both.

BUT the chart ruler is extra important, and the sign & house it's in and the aspects it makes are super duper important, as well.
At least from what I've observed.

My chart ruler only conjunct my Sun and yes, I like attention and need recognition (could be a 5H Moon thing though) and overall seem to be confident (even if I'm not). That's the effect of the Sun, even if it's buried in the 6H and in a dark sign like Scorpio.


ETA: another thought: my Sun rules my 5H so the 5H is again emphasized. ASC + 5H/Sun theme.



Oh hey there, fellow scorp here

Yep, that matches what I've found- the importance part that is- but I'm still trying to figure out how it plays out. Is it like an NN aspect?

I'm thinkin- do you feel/look sort of like a leo asc, or is it just the focus on the ego that matches?

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posted November 26, 2013 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chart ruler is the planet that rules the sign your AC is in.

My ruler is my mutable singleton and it's also in detriment so it's kinda complicated. I only have one major, easy, not tight aspect to it (sextile) which has a very subtle influence. I feel the sign my ruler is in a lot but it's also my IC.

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Doux Rêve
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posted November 26, 2013 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're welcome, Ellyn.


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Chart ruler: the planet that rules the sign of your ASC.


Ex: Virgo ASC - Virgo is ruled by Mercury, so your chart ruler (or ASC ruler) is Mercury.

It's what defines your personality... the basic, most important component that sets the whole "map" of the chart - the houses, which represent different areas of life.
Without the ASC, you have no houses, thus no "map", no clear definition of where the energies go and where they are expressed.

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posted November 26, 2013 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with Doux its both.

My chart ruler is Venus and my Venus is in the 2nd house and opposes Uranus. Yes my life is focus on material security, beauty and the arts.

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posted November 26, 2013 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Edit : Nvm, the post disappeared.

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posted November 26, 2013 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't feel bad, Cappy; mine is not the happiest of campers either...

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posted November 26, 2013 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for socialgraffiti     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Chart ruler is the planet that rules the sign your AC is in.

My ruler is my mutable singleton and it's also in detriment so it's kinda complicated. I only have one major, easy, not tight aspect to it (sextile) which has a very subtle influence. I feel the sign my ruler is in a lot but it's also my IC.



I'm gonna guess... is your chart ruler mercury?

eh, I find detriment and fall positions to be underrated. People tend to make big deals out of them, like "oh no," but planets in those positions isn't that bad, just different.

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posted November 26, 2013 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Draconic Chart ruler = Mars
Tropical Chart ruler = Pluto

I don't think the chart ruler should be known as the ascendant sign, this isn't always right. Pluto is the strongesst influence in me only after my Tropical Cap Moon, 1st House Ophiuchus Sun, Dr Gemini Moon & Dr Aries Sun. Mars or Saturn i would say are my chart rulers ... why should the energy you give off be what rules you? (thats all the ascendant is) and not what is personal to you ? (Sun/Moon)

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posted November 26, 2013 08:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chart ruler is Mercury at 0 Cancer (solstice point) - in the 10th house. The closest aspect is a 7 degree sextile from Saturn.

quote:
My chart ruler only conjunct my Sun and yes, I like attention and need recognition (could be a 5H Moon thing though) and overall seem to be confident (even if I'm not). That's the effect of the Sun, even if it's buried in the 6H and in a dark sign like Scorpio.

I've been looking for something like this. So, Sun in aspect to a ruling planet gives confidence, and pride. Eg. 7HR in aspect Sun gives a partner you can be proud of, and vice versa.

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Mercurian Intellect
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posted November 26, 2013 09:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My chart ruler is the Sun.

It's in Virgo in the 2nd House and is highly aspected.

Sun square Moon
Sun conjunct Venus
Sun conjunct Chiron
Sun opposite Saturn
Sun trine Uranus
Sun trine Neptune
Sun sextile Pluto
Sun square Lilith
Sun square Pallas
Sun sesqisquare MC
Sun conjunct Pholus
Sun sextile Nessus
Sun square Galactic-Center
Sun quindecile Spica
Sun square Capella
Sun square Arcturus
Sun sextile Procyon
Sun sextile Pollux
Sun square Betelgeuse

(all 7-orbs and lower)

Note: I added only the "Additional objects" on Astro.com, no other asteroids or fixed stars. Just the ones found in that drop-down box.

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posted November 26, 2013 09:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Mine is Venus, it makes a lot of weak sextiles and a square but I kinda wish my chart ruler were Mercury or Jupiter. Those are much better aspected. Sag with Virgo MC would work. Then I'd have all kinds of greatness.

Sagittarius ASC with Virgo MC does sound pretty cool

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charlie
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posted November 26, 2013 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Merc. I am so mutably Merc that I despise the same trait in others. I have stated my dislike for Virgo and Gem Moons a lot but in all fact i dislike the traits in me.

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posted November 26, 2013 09:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My chart ruler is Jupiter in Capricorn. It's so terribly aspected, I weep for it.

It's in the 2nd house and it squares Mercury and Saturn. It's only saving grace is a trine from Venus.

I definitely notice the traits in myself and I seem to attract a lot of Capricorns as friends.

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posted November 26, 2013 09:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by charlie:
Merc. I am so mutably Merc that I despise the same trait in others. I have stated my dislike for Virgo and Gem Moons a lot but in all fact i dislike the traits in me.

Why?
So just the Moon signs of them?

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posted November 26, 2013 10:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My chart ruler is Uranus in Capricorn and its in the 11th house conjunct Neptune and mercury, it also Trines my moon. I'm full of Aquarian/Uranian energy.

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