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T O P I C R E V I E WcharlieWho is made a scapegoat by projection?Example (someone says to me):Charlie? I never know where I have you! Charlie? I never know what you're gonna do!Charlie? I never know what you are up to!!! Charlie? I never know what you're gonna say! Can't take you anywhere!!But poor Charlie feels sad because of this because all she's ever done is pretty much nothing! People I have only known for 1-2 weeks can say this when I have barely uttered A, B or F :-/So it must be something I radiate that makes people project their own issues (what THEY are doing)!? yes? no? what??I don't think I have ever told anyone that I don't know what they are thinking or that I don't know where I have them. LonakeI remember seeing your chart in IA, I think it might be the Moon opp Mercury..Done nothing in terms of you just being yourself, right? Not meaning to throw others a curve ball so you don't understand their reaction.But, yup...I could see how those repeated comments from other people could get annoying :/Otoh....it sounds like a pretty cool superpower to keep in your back pocket if other people don't know what to expect then the stage is wide open.charlie quote:Originally posted by Lonake:I remember seeing your chart in IA, I think it might be the Moon opp Mercury..Done nothing in terms of you just being yourself, right? Not meaning to throw others a curve ball so you don't understand their reaction.But, yup...I could see how those repeated comments from other people could get annoying :/Otoh....it sounds like a pretty cool superpower to keep in your back pocket if other people don't know what to expect then the stage is wide open.It's a very cool superpower to have were I to engage in improv theater Otherwise not so much since people tiptoe around me as if I were a bloodsucking snail. Ami AnneDejanira ------------------Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/charlie quote:Originally posted by Ami Anne:Dejanira She's conjunct Child, Pluto and sq Sun, Venus, Mercury and MoonLonake quote:Originally posted by charlie:Otherwise not so much since people tiptoe around me as if I were a bloodsucking snail. Aww Ami what does Dejanira stand for again?mercuraniani can relate to this. do you have anything in the 12th or 8th house charlie? charlie quote:Originally posted by mercuranian:i can relate to this. do you have anything in the 12th or 8th house charlie? Not really...Lilith in 8H Aries which completes a Cardinal Square for me of sorts. I know asteroids don't count but she's still square my Sun and Moon. A bunch in my 12 H progressed chart. Wild Horses quote:Originally posted by charlie: Not really...Lilith in 8H Aries which completes a Cardinal Square for me of sorts. I know asteroids don't count but she's still square my Sun and Moon. A bunch in my 12 H progressed chart. I'm gonna go with the bunch in progressed 12th. Natally, I have Sun, Venus, Mars, and Mercury in 12th. Mercury is 12th ruler and in 12th, so my 12th house is very felt. I am constantly being used by others as their scapegoat. It happens with everyone I know... family, friends, even people I barely know. It used to annoy me to no end, but I got so used to it that it doesn't bother me at all now. Now, I actually find it amusing because it's so reliable and consistent.I don't know exactly what it is about 12th house energy that causes it. I'd love it if someone could put it into practical terms for me. It just seems very easy and natural for people to project stuff onto me and use me as their go to excuse for their own problems. It's not always big things, either. It can be small things.Like, say we're going to the movies, and they will be finishing up something they are doing. I'll say, "We should get going so we're not late for the movie." They'll say, "OK, gimme just a minute to finish this (whatever it is)." I'll say, "OK, no problem." Then, they'll take too long and make us a few minutes late. Here's where it gets good... They'll get annoyed at me! They'll say, "Why didn't you tell me to hurry sooner. You didn't give me enough time to finish what I was doing faster. If you had told me earlier I would have hurried sooner."I'm not even kidding! That's the kind of stuff I deal with constantly. I used to get inflamed about it. I'd waste my breath trying to get them to see their own fault in it. I felt like I was being wrong to them not making them take responsibly for their own actions. That just causes too many arguments, though. Now, I usually just laugh inside and let it go.charlie quote:Originally posted by Wild Horses: I'm gonna go with the bunch in progressed 12th. Natally, I have Sun, Venus, Mars, and Mercury in 12th. Mercury is 12th ruler and in 12th, so my 12th house is very felt. I am constantly being used by others as their scapegoat. It happens with everyone I know... family, friends, even people I barely know. It used to annoy me to no end, but I got so used to it that it doesn't bother me at all now. Now, I actually find it amusing because it's so reliable and consistent.I don't know exactly what it is about 12th house energy that causes it. I'd love it if someone could put it into practical terms for me. It just seems very easy and natural for people to project stuff onto me and use me as their go to excuse for their own problems. It's not always big things, either. It can be small things.Like, say we're going to the movies, and they will be finishing up something they are doing. I'll say, "We should get going so we're not late for the movie." They'll say, "OK, gimme just a minute to finish this (whatever it is)." I'll say, "OK, no problem." Then, they'll take too long and make us a few minutes late. Here's where it gets good... They'll get annoyed at me! They'll say, "Why didn't you tell me to hurry sooner. You didn't give me enough time to finish what I was doing faster. If you had told me earlier I would have hurried sooner."I'm not even kidding! That's the kind of stuff I deal with constantly. I used to get inflamed about it. I'd waste my breath trying to get them to see their own fault in it. I felt like I was being wrong to them not making them take responsibly for their own actions. That just causes too many arguments, though. Now, I usually just laugh inside and let it go.Yep, that's my situation too!
Example (someone says to me):
Charlie? I never know where I have you! Charlie? I never know what you're gonna do!Charlie? I never know what you are up to!!! Charlie? I never know what you're gonna say! Can't take you anywhere!!
But poor Charlie feels sad because of this because all she's ever done is pretty much nothing!
People I have only known for 1-2 weeks can say this when I have barely uttered A, B or F :-/
So it must be something I radiate that makes people project their own issues (what THEY are doing)!?
yes? no? what??
I don't think I have ever told anyone that I don't know what they are thinking or that I don't know where I have them.
Otoh....it sounds like a pretty cool superpower to keep in your back pocket if other people don't know what to expect then the stage is wide open.
quote:Originally posted by Lonake:I remember seeing your chart in IA, I think it might be the Moon opp Mercury..Done nothing in terms of you just being yourself, right? Not meaning to throw others a curve ball so you don't understand their reaction.But, yup...I could see how those repeated comments from other people could get annoying :/Otoh....it sounds like a pretty cool superpower to keep in your back pocket if other people don't know what to expect then the stage is wide open.
It's a very cool superpower to have were I to engage in improv theater Otherwise not so much since people tiptoe around me as if I were a bloodsucking snail.
------------------Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course.
http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
quote:Originally posted by Ami Anne:Dejanira
She's conjunct Child, Pluto and sq Sun, Venus, Mercury and Moon
quote:Originally posted by charlie:Otherwise not so much since people tiptoe around me as if I were a bloodsucking snail.
Ami what does Dejanira stand for again?
quote:Originally posted by mercuranian:i can relate to this. do you have anything in the 12th or 8th house charlie?
Not really...Lilith in 8H Aries which completes a Cardinal Square for me of sorts. I know asteroids don't count but she's still square my Sun and Moon. A bunch in my 12 H progressed chart.
quote:Originally posted by charlie: Not really...Lilith in 8H Aries which completes a Cardinal Square for me of sorts. I know asteroids don't count but she's still square my Sun and Moon. A bunch in my 12 H progressed chart.
I'm gonna go with the bunch in progressed 12th. Natally, I have Sun, Venus, Mars, and Mercury in 12th. Mercury is 12th ruler and in 12th, so my 12th house is very felt. I am constantly being used by others as their scapegoat. It happens with everyone I know... family, friends, even people I barely know. It used to annoy me to no end, but I got so used to it that it doesn't bother me at all now. Now, I actually find it amusing because it's so reliable and consistent.
I don't know exactly what it is about 12th house energy that causes it. I'd love it if someone could put it into practical terms for me. It just seems very easy and natural for people to project stuff onto me and use me as their go to excuse for their own problems. It's not always big things, either. It can be small things.
Like, say we're going to the movies, and they will be finishing up something they are doing. I'll say, "We should get going so we're not late for the movie." They'll say, "OK, gimme just a minute to finish this (whatever it is)." I'll say, "OK, no problem." Then, they'll take too long and make us a few minutes late. Here's where it gets good... They'll get annoyed at me! They'll say, "Why didn't you tell me to hurry sooner. You didn't give me enough time to finish what I was doing faster. If you had told me earlier I would have hurried sooner."
I'm not even kidding! That's the kind of stuff I deal with constantly. I used to get inflamed about it. I'd waste my breath trying to get them to see their own fault in it. I felt like I was being wrong to them not making them take responsibly for their own actions. That just causes too many arguments, though. Now, I usually just laugh inside and let it go.
quote:Originally posted by Wild Horses: I'm gonna go with the bunch in progressed 12th. Natally, I have Sun, Venus, Mars, and Mercury in 12th. Mercury is 12th ruler and in 12th, so my 12th house is very felt. I am constantly being used by others as their scapegoat. It happens with everyone I know... family, friends, even people I barely know. It used to annoy me to no end, but I got so used to it that it doesn't bother me at all now. Now, I actually find it amusing because it's so reliable and consistent.I don't know exactly what it is about 12th house energy that causes it. I'd love it if someone could put it into practical terms for me. It just seems very easy and natural for people to project stuff onto me and use me as their go to excuse for their own problems. It's not always big things, either. It can be small things.Like, say we're going to the movies, and they will be finishing up something they are doing. I'll say, "We should get going so we're not late for the movie." They'll say, "OK, gimme just a minute to finish this (whatever it is)." I'll say, "OK, no problem." Then, they'll take too long and make us a few minutes late. Here's where it gets good... They'll get annoyed at me! They'll say, "Why didn't you tell me to hurry sooner. You didn't give me enough time to finish what I was doing faster. If you had told me earlier I would have hurried sooner."I'm not even kidding! That's the kind of stuff I deal with constantly. I used to get inflamed about it. I'd waste my breath trying to get them to see their own fault in it. I felt like I was being wrong to them not making them take responsibly for their own actions. That just causes too many arguments, though. Now, I usually just laugh inside and let it go.
Yep, that's my situation too!
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